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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,985 posts)
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:52 PM Mar 2021

GOP Senator's Attack On Washington D.C. Statehood Spectacularly Backfires

Sen. Mike Rounds (R-S.D.) on Monday tried to make the case against statehood for Washington D.C. But given his own state’s history, it didn’t go well.

Rounds tweeted:




Rounds’ tweet appeared after a day of non sequitur attacks on D.C. statehood, such as the weird (and false) claim by Rep. Jody Hice (R-Ga.) that it would be the only state without an auto dealership. (The U.S. Constitution does not mention auto dealerships as a condition for statehood.)

Many were quick to remind Rounds that the Founders didn’t particularly envision statehood for any form of Dakota at all, much less a “South Dakota.” And in the years prior to its eventual admission as two states, there was just one Dakota: the Dakota Territory. One reason it was split just before admission was to give Republicans two more Senate seats ― including the one Rounds now occupies.

https://www.yahoo.com/huffpost/mike-rounds-dc-statehood-founding-fathers-062003323.html
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GOP Senator's Attack On Washington D.C. Statehood Spectacularly Backfires (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
Behold the dumbing down of America. Firestorm49 Mar 2021 #1
If the founders are required to approve Dave in VA Mar 2021 #2
I've always thought it was Abraham Lincoln who said that. Jeebo Mar 2021 #4
Quote attribution is tricky caraher Mar 2021 #9
It didn't backfire ibegurpard Mar 2021 #3
We don't need 2 Dakotas or Wyoming IronLionZion Mar 2021 #5
We don't need Dark Money bending the rules everywhere to advance their agenda Ford_Prefect Mar 2021 #7
IMO we could merge North and South Carolina together. mwooldri Mar 2021 #8
Great info. Thanks Pepsidog Mar 2021 #6

Dave in VA

(2,037 posts)
2. If the founders are required to approve
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 02:57 PM
Mar 2021

all state admissions, then when should we cut off admitting new states? When Adams died, or Hamilton, Jefferson, maybe? OK, George Washington...

Also, the founders never conceived of a state called Tejas, or New Mexico, or Alaska, or Hawaii.

Well, as Mark Twain said on the internet, "If you don't want to be thought of as stupid, then don't open your mouth and remove all doubt" or some such something, something!

Jeebo

(2,023 posts)
4. I've always thought it was Abraham Lincoln who said that.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 03:26 PM
Mar 2021

He said, "It's better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak up and remove all doubt."

-- Ron

caraher

(6,278 posts)
9. Quote attribution is tricky
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:32 PM
Mar 2021
Quote Investigator has a whole article on this one:

The wonderful Yale Book of Quotations (YBQ) 2 investigated the saying and presented the earliest known attribution to Lincoln in Golden Book magazine in November 1931: 3

Better to remain silent and be thought a fool than to speak and to remove all doubt.
— ABRAHAM LINCOLN.

Since Lincoln died in 1865 this is a suspiciously late instance, and it provides very weak evidence. Further, YBQ indicated that the phrase was in use years before this date with no attachment to Lincoln. The ascription of the saying to Mark Twain is also dubious.


In any case, your both remembering common attributions correctly!

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
3. It didn't backfire
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 03:13 PM
Mar 2021

It would have backfired if he'd had to change his position or backtrack but he's done no such thing.
Getting real tired of these clickbait titles people keep putting out about how so and so got owned or something blew up in their face when all that happened is they got liberal pushback on Twitter that they completely ignore and their base continues to swallow whatever shit they put out.
It creates expectations that do not happen and then people become disillusioned and cynical.

Ford_Prefect

(7,897 posts)
7. We don't need Dark Money bending the rules everywhere to advance their agenda
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:10 PM
Mar 2021

by guaranteeing the election of ideologues like him at every level of GOP participation. The Koch and Mercer machines along with the one hiding behind the Federalist Society have bent the GOP into an ideological pretzel far beyond anything imagined in Barry Goldwater's day.

I am surprised that Jan 6th hasn't inspired more in depth investigations of the links between them and the entire MAGA/ Proud Boys network. I expect someone could easily draw the lines between Murdoch's propagandizing and the level of crazy represented by those arrested and those yet to be. To say nothing of that by OANN and Newsmax. Oh yes, and Putin's trolls as well.

The GOP fish is rotten from the head down. I think we need to have a bit of ichthyological defenestration in CPAC Central.

mwooldri

(10,303 posts)
8. IMO we could merge North and South Carolina together.
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 05:28 PM
Mar 2021

The people of South Carolina would gain immensely from being merged into a greater (North) Carolina. Bonus argument to win over Republicans... less government waste by having only one governor and not two, fewer state legislators, less heads of departments.

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