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Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:10 PM Mar 2021

Pelosi Just Threw Down And Announced Democrats Will Wipe Out Louis DeJoy's USPS Cuts

Speaker Pelosi announced that she and House Democrats would wipe out Louis DeJoy’s cuts to the USPS in the upcoming infrastructure bill.

Speaker Pelosi (D-CA) said in a statement provided to PoliticusUSA:

The Postal Service is a pillar of our American Democracy and is enshrined in the Constitution, which empowers Congress to ‘establish Post Offices and Post Roads.’ The USPS provides services that are vital to the lives and livelihoods of the American people: ensuring that seniors and veterans receive their medicines, workers receive paychecks, taxpayers receive refunds, and voters can participate in their democracy. Over 1 billion prescriptions are delivered through the Postal Service, including around 90 percent from the VA to veterans.

Unfortunately, Postmaster DeJoy’s planned cutbacks, if enacted, would undermine this mission, resulting in serious delays and degradation of service for millions.


The Postal Service needs smart, strong investments to ensure that it can continue to serve the American people in a timely and effective manner, particularly in our most remote and under-served communities. The Congress will soon advance a robust infrastructure bill to ensure that the Postal Service has the resources needed to serve the American people in a timely and effective manner. We must deliver For The People.

Pelosi’s remarks along with Senate Majority Leader Schumer strongly suggest that both Louis DeJoy’s days are numbered as Postmaster General and that his proposed cuts are going to be undone in the infrastructure bill that is going to be developed and passed over the summer.

Democrats aren’t just going to get rid of DeJoy, they are also going to save the Postal Service.


https://www.politicususa.com/2021/03/23/pelosi-dejoy-usps-cuts.html

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Pelosi Just Threw Down And Announced Democrats Will Wipe Out Louis DeJoy's USPS Cuts (Original Post) 634-5789 Mar 2021 OP
Justice William Rehnquist on Congress' role in the administration of the Postal System: House of Roberts Mar 2021 #1
"Post Office was...the most visible symbol of national unity" Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #22
I think that it is more about money. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #51
And hopefully DeJoystick will also be wiped out Blue Owl Mar 2021 #2
Ya beat me to it! I like the way you think! abqtommy Mar 2021 #4
LOL Blue Owl Mar 2021 #8
Wiped out in terms of having to personally pay to replace all the sorting machines he destroyed? notinkansas Mar 2021 #28
Works for me! Blue Owl Mar 2021 #29
That's a start. belpejic Mar 2021 #47
DeJoystick! I like it! calimary Mar 2021 #54
Ty, Madam Speaker! SheltieLover Mar 2021 #3
honest to goodness question... why isn't he being investigated? Takket Mar 2021 #5
K & R!!! 50 Shades Of Blue Mar 2021 #6
Get rid of the bum. Throw his plan in the trash dalton99a Mar 2021 #7
Will Democrats get rid of the mandate, forcing the USPS to pre-fund no_hypocrisy Mar 2021 #9
This!! Sophiegirl Mar 2021 #41
Excellent Statement by Cha Mar 2021 #10
Hooray! kentuck Mar 2021 #11
DeJoy plan violates the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970 csziggy Mar 2021 #12
Your bolding is good but should also include the next sentence: Captain Zero Mar 2021 #31
So that the business will go to the private rainy Mar 2021 #33
Oh, that is true csziggy Mar 2021 #42
I love Nancy Pelosi. She is amazing. n/t Greybnk48 Mar 2021 #13
Thank you, Speaker Pelosi! 💙💙 crickets Mar 2021 #14
Might Be Best Way To Get Rid Of Him ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #15
Thank you Madam Speaker Traildogbob Mar 2021 #16
Dejoy is for his pockets Smackdown2019 Mar 2021 #17
Is it as simple as trucking? bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #18
Most Excellent!!!! ... and let's add basic banking service PBC_Democrat Mar 2021 #19
Can't understand why POTUS is not stressing this SCantiGOP Mar 2021 #20
PO pamdb Mar 2021 #21
Nancy comes through for us yet again. Mickju Mar 2021 #23
Can't happen soon enough. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #24
Postal service is a government service that reaches those who for profit corporations would not give Martin68 Mar 2021 #25
Investigate DeJoy. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #26
Is he still there? orangecrush Mar 2021 #27
She left out: "And we're going to fire that cock-knob..." Grins Mar 2021 #30
The purpose of the trump administration was to destroy the US government. Turbineguy Mar 2021 #32
Drown it in a bath tub. BradBo Mar 2021 #36
❤️Speaker P❤️ shenmue Mar 2021 #34
Bout damn time! BradBo Mar 2021 #35
Let's not get emotional, just wipe and flush twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #37
Keeping this apparent , stupid around is a mystery to me.. Maxheader Mar 2021 #38
Biden is replacing the Board of Governors; only they can fire DeJerk. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #45
let repeal that fucking law where the postal employees have to fund there retirement 75 years into turbinetree Mar 2021 #39
Absolutely. It was created to break the USPS. Hortensis Mar 2021 #48
Nancy Isn't Sitting Still For This Nonsense colsohlibgal Mar 2021 #40
There must be a way to find out if he conspired with drumpf to effect the election. BSdetect Mar 2021 #43
Toss DeJoy in DeJail lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #44
It's about time. TxVietVet Mar 2021 #46
Here's a bit of Postal Trivia ... aggiesal Mar 2021 #49
The Postal SERVICE. . . . not the Postal BUSINESS... liberalla Mar 2021 #50
Fine OldBaldy1701E Mar 2021 #52
Friday is Nancy Pelosi's Birthday Cozmo Mar 2021 #53

House of Roberts

(5,167 posts)
1. Justice William Rehnquist on Congress' role in the administration of the Postal System:
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:21 PM
Mar 2021
https://constitutioncenter.org/blog/the-postal-clauses-grant-of-broad-power-to-congress-over-a-system-in-crisis

Before analyzing the challenge, then-Associate Justice William Rehnquist, who wrote for a unanimous court, said the case was a good example of Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes's aphorism that “a page of history is worth a volume of logic.” Rehnquist then proceeded to recount the history of the postal system:

“By the early 18th century, the posts were made a sovereign function in almost all nations because they were considered a sovereign necessity. Government without communication is impossible, and until the invention of the telephone and telegraph, the mails were the principal means of communication.

“Given the importance of the post to our early Nation, it is not surprising that when the United States Constitution was ratified in 1789, Art. I, § 8, provided Congress the power 'To establish Post Offices and post Roads' and 'To make all Laws which shall be necessary and proper' for executing this task. The Post Office played a vital yet largely unappreciated role in the development of our new Nation. Stagecoach trails which were improved by the Government to become post roads quickly became arteries of commerce. Mail contracts were of great assistance to the early development of new means of transportation such as canals, railroads, and eventually airlines. During this developing stage, the Post Office was to many citizens situated across the country the most visible symbol of national unity.”

Congress's broad power over the nation's mail system was recognized in the 1878 Supreme Court decision Ex parte Jackson, according to Rehnquist. In that decision, the Justices wrote:
“The power vested in Congress 'to establish post-offices and post-roads' has been practically construed, since the foundation of the government, to authorize not merely the designation of the routes over which the mail shall be carried, and the offices where letters and other documents shall be received to be distributed or forwarded, but the carriage of the mail, and all measures necessary to secure its safe and speedy transit, and the prompt delivery of its contents…. The power possessed by Congress embraces the regulation of the entire Postal System of the country.”

Wounded Bear

(58,605 posts)
22. "Post Office was...the most visible symbol of national unity"
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:09 PM
Mar 2021

Hmmm, seems like a good target for anybody trying to destroy the union.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
51. I think that it is more about money.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

What happens to the union is an afterthought to these guys. They want the money that the Post Office has, just like they want the money that is secured in our Social Security system. They want the money that goes into providing for the military. This is why all have been targeted for privatization. You don't see privates peeling potatoes anymore and mess halls. It is all private contractors. Bush Jr. spent his 2nd term trying to privatize Social Security. Republicans have been after the post office for awhile.

The post office is a visible symbol of government doing something right for the average citizen, and conservatives HATE that.

Blue Owl

(50,291 posts)
8. LOL
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:41 PM
Mar 2021

That's happened to me more times than I can count -- I need to read all the replies before I post my own!

notinkansas

(1,096 posts)
28. Wiped out in terms of having to personally pay to replace all the sorting machines he destroyed?
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:24 PM
Mar 2021

Hope springs eternal.

Takket

(21,529 posts)
5. honest to goodness question... why isn't he being investigated?
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:35 PM
Mar 2021

he crippled the post office to try and destroy the mail in ballot process. period. he tampered with the 2020 election at drumpf's order and he should be in prison for it. i can't believe he's still running around making decisions like this!!!!!!!!!!

HER RUNS A RIVAL COMPANY FOR GOODNESS SAKE!!!!!!!!!! how much more obvious do his intentions need to be??????????

no_hypocrisy

(46,038 posts)
9. Will Democrats get rid of the mandate, forcing the USPS to pre-fund
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 07:45 PM
Mar 2021

retirements for postal workers YET BORN? That's a terrible drain on its Budget.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
12. DeJoy plan violates the Postal Reorganization Act of 1970
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:28 PM
Mar 2021
The Postal Reorganization Act of 1970 was a law passed by the United States Congress that abolished the then United States Post Office Department, which was a part of the Cabinet, and created the United States Postal Service, a corporation-like independent agency authorized by the US government as an official service for the delivery of mail in the United States. President Richard Nixon signed the Act in law on August 12, 1970.[1][2]

The legislation was a direct outcome of the U.S. postal strike of 1970. Prior to the act, postal workers were not permitted by law to engage in collective bargaining. In the act, the four major postal unions (National Association of Letter Carriers, American Postal Workers Union, National Postal Mail Handlers Union, and the National Rural Letter Carriers Association) won full collective bargaining rights: the right to negotiate on wages, benefits and working conditions, although they still were not allowed the right to strike.[3]

The first paragraph of the act reads:[2]

The United States Postal Service shall be operated as a basic and fundamental service provided to the people by the Government of the United States, authorized by the Constitution, created by Act of Congress, and supported by the people. The Postal Service shall have as its basic function the obligation to provide postal services to bind the Nation together through the personal, educational, literary, and business correspondence of the people. It shall provide prompt, reliable, and efficient services to patrons in all areas and shall render postal services to all communities. The costs of establishing and maintaining the Postal Service shall not be apportioned to impair the overall value of such service to the people.


More: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postal_Reorganization_Act


This was also the act by which the Post Office was removed as a Cabinet Department and turned into a corporation-like independent agency. Of course, it was signed by a RepuQ president - Nixon - after the postal workers were driven to go on strike. This act permitted the postal unions the right to negotiate but removed their right to strike.

Captain Zero

(6,788 posts)
31. Your bolding is good but should also include the next sentence:
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 04:17 AM
Mar 2021
The costs of establishing and maintaining the Postal Service shall not be apportioned to impair the overall value of such service to the people.

Read this sentence very carefully. It says DeJoy can't be doing what he is doing.
He has used the budgeting process within the service to harm the value of the service to the people.

rainy

(6,088 posts)
33. So that the business will go to the private
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 05:13 AM
Mar 2021

Mailing industries. That is his whole effort, put trust in private sector which he owns interest in.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
42. Oh, that is true
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:24 AM
Mar 2021

I was concentrating on how he's destroyed the service quality - and how the Repuqs have been destroying it every chance they get. But that does include how the Repuqs have cut the funding and how they have put undue monetary burdens on the USPS, such as the ridiculous pre-funding retirement for generations to come.

ProfessorGAC

(64,877 posts)
15. Might Be Best Way To Get Rid Of Him
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:39 PM
Mar 2021

Take away his power, so he can't just dictate policy.
He'll hate it and perhaps take his ball & go home!

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
16. Thank you Madam Speaker
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:55 PM
Mar 2021

Takes me 4 weeks to get meds From VA 30 miles away. Never before DickJoy. Mail in bills creating late fees, mailed in 15 days before due date.
Next, rid the two Trump assholes over Social Security. They have the same management scheme as the Postal Service ass. Break it and end it. Go private to rob it all.

Smackdown2019

(1,184 posts)
17. Dejoy is for his pockets
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

PMG needs to understand that delays only creates headaches from the customer to the other end of that phone that a Postmaster has to answer and say sorry for the delay. Granted! 55 cent stamp on an envelope to send a heartfelt letter from dear Old Granny in Hawaii to her grandson in Maine may take a few days, but that same 55 cent stamp from Old Granny in nearby town to her grandson should not take more than a day.

Now this PMG will derail the under cost of billings suppliers send to the Public and will just raise those additional costs onto those consumers.

Think ....
React......
Plan..........

Nothing of those three words are for the American People in Dejoy commitment to the USPS....

Those three words are PMG own interests!

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
18. Is it as simple as trucking?
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 08:56 PM
Mar 2021

DeJoy wants trucking because that's his industry roots and loyalties, so slow down the USPS and make them go by truck?

Is it that simple?

PBC_Democrat

(401 posts)
19. Most Excellent!!!! ... and let's add basic banking service
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:15 PM
Mar 2021

Provide basic banking services to under-served communities.

Decent interest rates
Free Check Cashing
Lower interest small loans (

SCantiGOP

(13,867 posts)
20. Can't understand why POTUS is not stressing this
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 09:24 PM
Mar 2021

Having reliable mail service is something that cuts across all political categories.
I think a pro-gun, anti-abortion religious MAGA nut would still say (perhaps in a whisper) "Glad Biden fixed the Post Office."

And, it is necessary for the economy and the viability of rural areas.

pamdb

(1,332 posts)
21. PO
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:06 PM
Mar 2021


So far all that’s been done is nominating governors and Dejoy just goes on doing whatever he wants. How long to get rid of the guy? Jeesh

Martin68

(22,768 posts)
25. Postal service is a government service that reaches those who for profit corporations would not give
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:38 PM
Mar 2021

a second glance. No developed nation has a postal service that makes a profit. Why is important is to have an efficient tax-payer funded postal service.

Grins

(7,199 posts)
30. She left out: "And we're going to fire that cock-knob..."
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:50 PM
Mar 2021

“...and prosecute him for conspiracy to throw an election!”

Turbineguy

(37,296 posts)
32. The purpose of the trump administration was to destroy the US government.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 04:46 AM
Mar 2021

DeJoy is merely doing his job.

BradBo

(528 posts)
36. Drown it in a bath tub.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:23 AM
Mar 2021

As the rich, white asshole Reagan said. Get rid of New Deal programs and squeeze the middle class and poor for the rich white capitalists, fuck America and democracy was their form of patriotism.

Maxheader

(4,370 posts)
38. Keeping this apparent , stupid around is a mystery to me..
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:35 AM
Mar 2021

Is there no replacement? Postmaster General...is it a worry firing would degrade the office?

Too late!...

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
45. Biden is replacing the Board of Governors; only they can fire DeJerk.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:00 AM
Mar 2021

We need to press for confirmation of Biden's Board.

turbinetree

(24,685 posts)
39. let repeal that fucking law where the postal employees have to fund there retirement 75 years into
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 07:46 AM
Mar 2021

into the future .........

https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/fy2010/ar2010_4_002.htm

And now its sitting in the senate and since #Moscow Mitch did nothing.......they have to do it again............

https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/financials/annual-reports/fy2010/ar2010_4_002.htm

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
40. Nancy Isn't Sitting Still For This Nonsense
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 09:11 AM
Mar 2021

My Dad worked at a Post Office Branch till he retired he would have been seriously agitated at DeJoy. So go ahead and neuter that Trump loving Jerk Nancy.

BSdetect

(8,995 posts)
43. There must be a way to find out if he conspired with drumpf to effect the election.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:57 AM
Mar 2021

Including any info regarding his talks with drumpf prior to his appointment.

And whatever happened to the translator who was in Helsinki with the putin chat?

aggiesal

(8,907 posts)
49. Here's a bit of Postal Trivia ...
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:37 PM
Mar 2021

Before GPS, we all used what are known as MAPS!

A driving trip across country required a map book to navigate through the Interstates, state highways and side roads.
At the back of most map books, there was a mileage table of large cities, which showed the mileage distance between those cities.

The mileage number was determined by distances between the Main Post Offices of those cities.

Here's a sample mileage table for the state of Colorado

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