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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsCoronavirus: 'Double mutant' Covid variant found in India
BBC World Service News
March 24,2021
7am est
A new double mutant variant of the coronavirus and 771 others have been detected in samples collected from 18 states across India.Of the 10,787 samples, 736 were positive for the UK variant, 34 for the South African variant and one for the Brazilian variant.The report comes amid a recent surge in Covid cases in India.
...A double mutation, virologist Shahid Jameel explains, is "two mutations coming together in the same virus". "A double mutation in the key areas of the virus's spike protein may increase these risks and allow the virus to escape the immune system and make it more infectious," he adds.
..."Such [double] mutations confer immune escape and increased infectivity," the Health Ministry said in a statement.
More here
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-india-56507988
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Roc2020
(1,616 posts)ancianita
(36,157 posts)Pachamama
(16,887 posts)All the work that has been done will be wasted if the spread isnt stopped and mass testing and vaccination done worldwide and quickly.
I keep asking myself where could be now if there had been a coordinated global effort last March to literally shut the world down for a month. Where people would have been told to stay home and work from home or school, except essential workers, food delivered to households and mandatory masks law and meeting restrictions and borders closed and no air travel, no cruise ships etc. Simultaneously, mass testing to identify where the virus was and stop asymptomatic spread. That alone would have prevented the out of control spread. Stopped it in its tracks. A virus without hosts cant spread. Then after a month they could have transitioned to slowly opening up with limited restrictions and testing and limited but controlled interstate and international travel.
All the leaders and governments and businesses could worry about last March of 2020 was what it would do to the precious economy. And yet look where we are a year later and the loss of human life, mental health crisis and much more. The spread continues and mutations are now becoming predominant.
While the science community developed at record speed a vaccine, if we dont limit the continuing spread and vaccinate enough people quickly, the vaccines may not be effect against the mutations. And if that happens, I seriously fear where we may be a year from now. And then the radical idea of shutting down the world last March and giving the population of the world a pause, even if it had meant the world economies came to a halt except for essential production and delivery of food and medicine etc wouldnt seem so radical because then we might have stopped the virus and kept it in check until there was a vaccine.
Staying home (distancing), no travel, masks and testing. Those were the tools in our tool box a year ago and we as a world population with the guidance of our governments and medical communities working together all sadly didnt do it as needed.
Look at Germany right now. Then look at New Zealand. (We already know what happened in US)
Germany did it right...at first. Then with the exception of a mandatory mask mandate in stores, they had schools open, restaurants open, borders open again in the summer in Europe and people going on vacation to Spain and Italy etc and visitors coming to Germany and next to no testing. Events like Oktoberfest canceled but then thousands of large private mini Oktoberfest celebrations with people convening and celebrating without masks - people from all over Europe - including lots of Brits - were in Germany. People from all over driving from various countries over the borders and not tested and asymptomatic spread....as the variants took hold. Schools left open and kids who tended to be asymptomatic spreading it to families and communities. By September of 2020 the numbers of dead were steadily starting to climb - by November it was too late. Now Germany has a higher death rate per capital than the US and the mutations are becoming predominant. And yet while the German Government argues on what to do and have a harder lockdown or not - Germans get on planes and head to Mallorca. And vaccinations are stunted because of the failure to have planned better, not just in Germany but around the EU.
Then look at New Zealand - they had a hard lockdown from the start and they closed their borders and had strict testing. And yes, they are an island but it demonstrates how they could protect their population and control the spread. Life in New Zealand is now normal and its safe. You wouldnt know there was a virus.
I dont have the answers but I know that I am worried right now and after witnessing what has gone wrong in Germany, I am really concerned about what is coming next. We know what went wrong in US under the lack of leadership of Trump. But if we dont keep vigilant and mask and have limited travel and mass testing and vaccination we could find ourselves going backwards fast.
SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)Well said.
The question is whether humans will ever respect Nature.
HUAJIAO
(2,405 posts)bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,781 posts)I still see morons proudly maskless and ignoring distancing every time I go somewhere. Look at the Spring Break footage. It's crazy.
IronLionZion
(45,562 posts)so we can have lots more variants to deal with forever and if people die, Republicans will continue to claim to be pro-life.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)Just less so.
Tbear
(488 posts)and the one after that?
Point is, there are increasingly new strains at an alarming rate.
And the band played on.
Loki Liesmith
(4,602 posts)The vaccine slows the spread of each variant. The more the spread is slowed the lower the probability of viable mutations.
If we keep vaccinating at a good clip we got this.
DenaliDemocrat
(1,478 posts)But there will be crossover immunity as well. Our bodies will have some training on how to deal with it, which will eventually turn it less deadly even for new mutations. I believe you are seeing that now. Less effective in stopping infections but very effective in preventing hospitalization and death
Tbear
(488 posts)Latest statistics I have seen say about 51% male republicans and nearly 30% of the general US population dont plan on getting vaccinated. I dont know but it seems like that could be a problem.
And spring break, and millions flying, and Texas and Florida opening fully, and thedonald who is grooming DeSantis its almost like they are trying to encourage COVID spread.
I am hopeful too, but dis look bad bae.
I would like to learn what Laurie Garrets views are.
Oh, and Doom porn? Really? Im not sure why that pisses me off but it does.
Ill see your doom porn and raise you a pair of rose-colored glasses and a red pill.
IronLionZion
(45,562 posts)many variants mutated to become more infectious but less deadly.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Its discovery is too recent to have the answer concerning lethality.
MadLinguist
(792 posts)where how deadly a mutation is is measured by the mortality rate within those infected by the variant in question.
What has always bothered me about the description "less deadly" is that the same mortality rate (the numerator) over a larger infected population still results in more deaths than the original. So how is that less deadly?
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)Why more transmissible variants of COVID-19 can be as worrisome as more deadly ones
More contagious variants in California could mean more deaths, this interactive graphic shows why
Karina Zaiets and Janet Loehrke, USA TODAY
Published 9:58 AM EDT Mar. 18, 2021 Updated 10:27 AM EDT Mar. 18, 2021
https://www.usatoday.com/in-depth/graphics/2021/03/18/covid-new-variants-deadly/4251191001/
The wild card is that the vaccines show promise of working to prevent serious cases and works on all variants. The more vaccinations the less deadly-hopefully!
MadLinguist
(792 posts)I'd like to see legislation passed which would criminalize vaccination disinformation, because that is the biggest barrier to reaching a viable threshold of vaccinated people across communities that regularly interact. Its a hard sell, I know, but if there were just the threat of legal action for spreading bullshit about vaccines, some level of disinformation could be curtailed.
Snackshack
(2,541 posts)The rapid mutations were are seeing in this virus is terrifying and not a good harbinger of things to come.
Garion_55
(1,915 posts)2 or 3 more mutations should be enough to animate dead flesh.
though i figured once it got trump that should have been proof enough.
buckle in!!