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Wounded Bear

(58,648 posts)
5. The bulk of the country got through that fairly well...
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:32 AM
Mar 2021

Texas was the only state with those major foo-bahs. I'm all for helping them, but not on their terms. They should join the 21st Century and the US power grid.

bullwinkle428

(20,629 posts)
2. If Republican GOVERNORS and MAYORS are all in on the key elements
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:06 AM
Mar 2021

of the infrastructure package, then I think Joe Biden has every right to say, "LOOK, MOTHERFUCKERS - THIS SHIT IS TOTALLY BIPARTISAN, AND ANYONE THAT FEELS DIFFERENTLY CAN GLADLY KISS ME WHERE IT COUNTS!!"

That is, if Joe Biden were to suddenly begin channeling The Rude Pundit!

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
3. BIG trouble for the GQP, because they will all vote against it.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:08 AM
Mar 2021

And once again, we can (must) take ALL the credit.

Midnight Writer

(21,753 posts)
4. I think Democrats need to emphasize updating local water and sewage systems.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:31 AM
Mar 2021

This is a major problem in rural and small towns, and the locals all recognize that. Small water systems have fallen into disrepair and are not sufficient to handle pollution such as chemical runoff and algae blooms. Small towns and townships don't have the tax base needed to overhaul their systems.

If we want to put pressure on Republicans to come on board, we need to push this out front and publicize our intentions to offer a fix to the problem of clean water.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
8. Can we actually do all of this? Or even some of this? Or even a little of this?
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:40 PM
Mar 2021

Politically, who believes that we can even address any of these issues with the political situation as it is now? Each side will attempt to block projects in the other side's districts, even though blue state projects are likely to affect a greater percentage of Americans. Red states will object to block projects in non-white areas and will block anything and everything that benefits Hispanics because some of them might not be legal residents.

While $3 trillion is a lot of money, consider one recent large-scale infrastructure project I used last week. The replacement for the Tappan Zee Bridge in NY. That was relatively speedy and cost $4 billion. Do some arithmetic, and that comes to roughly 75 comparable-size projects throughout the country. That's not a lot of projects when you consider that tens of thousands - some articles have said hundreds of thousands - of bridges that need repair, and some reports have suggested that this is close to a century-long project. Add in water systems and mine clean-up and broadband expansion, and pretty soon it adds up. Now, if we could be looking at $3 trillion a year for the next ten years or more, then we might make some inroads. But I guarantee we as a nation do not have the political will to do that. And, you know something, we don't have the vision.

Yes, NASA landed stuff on Mars, and that is seriously impressive. But as far as I can tell from reading the papers, most scientific advancements are in the hands of a few billionaires, and their goal is not the betterment of America or mankind.

Is it any wonder that the Chinese look at us and simply give us the finger? We've become a laughingstock over the past 4 years and have lost whatever moral, political, or financial leverage might have been applied to Chinese transgressions. We have RW senators and representatives who support Putin rather than Biden and for whom assault weapons and anti-life policies are more important than. . . well, than just about anything else.

Look, I hope they can get this passed. I'm all for infrastructure. But I just don't think it will happen, and if it does, it will be so half-assed as to be an embarrassment. So, on a personal level, I don't think I'll be seeing real broadband in my rural community in what remains of my lifetime.

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