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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThey have totally lost their minds.
This morning I was in the grocery store. Everyone was masked, a man came in and went directly to an older woman who was wearing an "I got vaccinated" sticker and began to berate her. He told her that this was all a liberal hoax to remove HIS President, he told her she was now being tracked by the goverment, then as he walked away he turned back and called her a snowflake. She looked stunned, I was stunned, I should have said something but instead I walked closer to her and asked if she was ok and should I get a manager. Her eyes smiled and she said, no , she loved it, they are all nuts she said.
The sad thing is there were three other people who went up and gave him a high five as he walked away. I know I live in crazyville, I get that, but when it is right in front of your face it is pretty frightening. This is a medium sized city, can you imagine what it is like in the rural parts of Oklahoma? Good grief, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)That's what bullies do: Target people they think they can physically dominate. And his brother troglodytes are right there to cheer him on.
hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,805 posts)is a category called "Chicken Shits". They always will have guns, pick on a person who is smaller, pick on one person with five of them, and target the elderly, especially women.......
They are the Textbook definition of chicken shits.............
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)hlthe2b
(102,200 posts)Not that this nonsense isn't occurring many or most places, but...
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)Hoyt
(54,770 posts)EYESORE 9001
(25,922 posts)and I can't hold the education system responsible. If someone refuses to develop critical thinking skills, that's on them - not the educational institution.
drmeow
(5,016 posts)of nurses at my hospital who are refusing to get vaccined even though about 15% (probably more like 20%) of the staff have had positive COVID tests!
Claire Oh Nette
(2,636 posts)The anti vax thing is tied up with the whole right-wing trump as messiah and god will provide thing. It's a religion, just like Q.
drmeow
(5,016 posts)I just know the number is high, no other information.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)It sounds like she was a strong woman, and I think you did the right thing.
I hope that if something like that happens to me I'll have the grace to simply say, "You're free to have your own beliefs, no matter how wrong they are." And that's it.
We know they're crazy, but we never really know how violent they might be.
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)So many of them open carry everywhere.
Harker
(14,010 posts)Either in having a gun, or in having people concerned that they might.
Fearmongers.
wnylib
(21,420 posts)it might be to disagree with them, but it infuriates me that they can intimidate people into putting up with their BS to avoid escalation to violence.
But it's also true that trying to reason with them is impossible. I know from experience that it's like talking to a zombie or a Stepford wife.
I'm thinking that, in the future when I encounter them, I might just smile sweetly and move on. They want confrontations or fear from them. Just don't give them either reaction.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
dalton99a
(81,432 posts)gibraltar72
(7,501 posts)FakeNoose
(32,617 posts)They hate it when they're the one being ridiculed.
jalan48
(13,854 posts)suppression. It's been an ongoing process since the 80's (Limbaugh and Fox News started up back then). I think we're nearing the end result of their propaganda efforts and this mass, irrational hysteria is the evidence . Our hope lies in people like Stacey Abrams and others fighting on the front lines for our democracy.
Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)Cosmocat
(14,561 posts)is that those who are full on oriented like they are recognize what you just laid out, speak out to directly and without equivocation, and that we find a way to have that slightly greater majority unify in resistance to it - both in calling it for what is it is and punishing republicans SEVERELY on election day - for YEARS.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)I hope for some way to overcome the right wing propaganda machine, because without that, we will continue to fight to establish reality as the unifying understanding in this country.
jalan48
(13,854 posts)dis-information to sway public opinion toward candidates who support policies favorable to the interfering country and large multi-national corporations. Most in the US didn't really care until those tactics were brought home and used on our own citizens.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)are not doing anything to hurt them. Weren't these screwballs ever taught to "mind your own business"? They sure hate it when other people interfere in their lives. Everything is a one-way street for them.
Also, it is interesting that they tend to pick on the most non-threatening person in the room. Who on earth thinks it is okay to berate or attack an older woman? Maybe he should try that with a young, physically fit man and see how that goes.
fwvinson
(488 posts)eye on the one's without masks on. If one of these assholes ever approach me or my wife, I am prepared to put them on the ground. And, the look they carry appears to look like they want someone to approach them and say something, so they can lash out. That's my observations.
PatSeg
(47,368 posts)I am sure you are not the only man who feels that way. I'll bet that jerk realized that woman was alone and didn't have anyone to back her up.
You're probably right, he was undoubtedly looking for a fight and when no one confronted him, he picked one.
Politicub
(12,165 posts)I think Im going to start asking people like him insane questions.
What cheese?
(Whispering) I received a transmission that someone that looks like you was delivering the cheese. Where the cheese goes it is there now.
Wha? I dont have no cheese.
Shhhh... theyre listening. Now the satellites will track you until you find the cheese. Find the cheese. Here, put this mask on so they dont recognize you.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Politicub
(12,165 posts)Check Q for further instructions.
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)PatSeg
(47,368 posts)Very clever!
Delmette2.0
(4,164 posts)That is what I was thinking about. I need to come up with something.
fierywoman
(7,680 posts)Joinfortmill
(14,409 posts)blueinredohio
(6,797 posts)Pick on me, asshole.
Leith
(7,808 posts)If anyone ever tried that shit with me, I would call for security as loud as I could - and my voice carries to the back row as the saying goes.
wnylib
(21,420 posts)when I choose to project it.
I was in a store where I know the management enforces the mask and distancing rules. I am 5 feet tall. As I was browsing through a video display, a 6 foot, husky guy who had pulled his mask down to his neck stood inches from me and leaned over the display as if also browsing. I moved to other side of the kiosk display and he followed me, then coughed. I belowed out, "Hey, what are you doing?"
It startled him so much that he jumped, then looked around. An employee came over to ask what was wrong and he left. Apparently he was more the sneaky, secretive type than the confrontational type, just out for a day of fun harrassing gray-haired old women.
avebury
(10,952 posts)when they die off due to their own stupidity.
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,100 posts)YES!
Besides the fact that it's none of his damn business what the 'I got vaccinated' lady does, and now is being mysteriously tracked somehow, and then called her a 'snowflake', for no cause, angers me, for what about her rights?
In the midst of all of this epidemic going on, the rights of so many are trampled on constantly by these morons. It's too bad that others didn't speak up and insist 'good for her', etc. in being vaccinated. I guess everyone was surprised at the sudden assault, I would be, and I love her response, in that they are all 'nuts'.
As a former Oklahoma resident (Tulsa), I am disappointed in this treatment of this older person (perhaps in the 75+ age group, just guessing) by a moron. I predict that sure, we'll start making inroads against covid-19, but in major parts of the Country, idiots such as this guy that berated the older lady will not still get vaccinated, will not take precautions, and thus, will get sick, and perhaps die.
No terrible loss in my mind if you ask me. I so want to hug that lady in OK for her strength but I'll settle for an elbow bump!
Thanks for sharing this story. I suspect that more and more of us will see crap like this happen.
KS Toronado
(17,187 posts)And Qpublicans are so good at it, and getting better.
dchill
(38,465 posts)johnthewoodworker
(694 posts)maxsolomon
(33,284 posts)That man would have been escorted out by security for his own safety, before he was pelted with canned goods.
Sometimes I am very thankful I live in the Soviet of Seattle.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)In fact, it's pretty certain. But, sick as they are, how far could they get?
sarge43
(28,941 posts)Those mouth breathers can't waste what they don't have.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Their positions are not sustainable. They'll continue to claim various victories, but only they will believe them, and not nearly enough.
I'm glad you didn't respond to him. They crave power and affirmation. Indifference, ignoring, and dismissal are the very opposite.
Nululu
(840 posts)It is sad to see how cruel people are. I'm glad you offered support to the woman. Unbelievable that people were high fiving such a cowardly PoS.
yaesu
(8,020 posts)I was the only shopper in the store, 8am shopping has its perks
tanyev
(42,541 posts)stand your ground state pulled a gun on a maskless idiot trying to get in their face and yelled, Back up, asshole!
LaMouffette
(2,021 posts)poison-tipped-dart eyes.
If I'm in a good mood and don't want a stupid maskhole to ruin my day, I give them "smiley eyes" and a warm and hearty, "Good Morning!" (while keeping a very safe distance away from the jerk).
So many of them expect a battle that this response really confuses them.
monkeyman1
(5,109 posts)dlk
(11,540 posts)What kind of a loser would ever think it's okay to approach an elderly stranger and begin yelling at her? It's verbal assault.
ailsagirl
(22,893 posts)🤪🤪🤪😡
IronLionZion
(45,410 posts)it could have some electoral consequences for some time. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a factor already in the 2020 election.
rsdsharp
(9,162 posts)why his president got vaccinated.
Wicked Blue
(5,830 posts)or That's none of your (bleeping) business
or What makes you think that my health is any of your business?
ProfessorGAC
(64,986 posts)But, in the few situations I've been involved with I tend to say (disgustedly), "Shut Up! Why would you think I care what you believe?"
It's the opposite reaction they expect from a "snowflake". They get flummoxed and end up shutting up.
niyad
(113,219 posts)have been tracking me since I was twelve. Now they don't have to waste agents to follow me."
Seriously, though, they are getting more dangerous by the minute. This older white woman walks with an oak staff, so I am probably given wide berth.
Mickju
(1,800 posts)This is scaring me. I'm vaccinated but I still haven't gone out to shop. We order all our groceries from Walmart and do contactless pick up. I had never shopped at Walmart before, but it's the best option for us right now..
redstatebluegirl
(12,265 posts)suggested. There are some crazy people everywhere. This was the second incident I have witnessed, the other one was at Walgreens a few months ago when I went out to get a prescription for my husband. I did not feel threatened, I was just stunned at the stupidity of it all. I don't normally engate them because, if you live here you know, many of them are armed to the teeth. I just laugh at them behind my mask and move on. In this case I wanted to check on the lady before I walked off. I am 66, she looked every bit of 80 but like me, she just thinks they are all nuts.
Rhiannon12866
(205,092 posts)To certain places? I'm hearing that airlines are already considering it.
Mickju
(1,800 posts)Just in case I ever need to prove that I have been vaccinated.
Rhiannon12866
(205,092 posts)And I know what people say about Walmart, but the one near me not only requires masks, as do all businesses here in New York, but at Walmart they have mask checkers at the door.
Skittles
(153,138 posts)you live in an area where a man would get high-fived for.......harassing an old lady? WTF
Behind the Aegis
(53,939 posts)It is amazing how many of these assholes go after older people, especially women. As a gay Jew in Oklahoma, I can attest to some really fucked up behavior here. Sure, it happens all over, but sometimes....
Skittles
(153,138 posts)they would be VERY FUCKING SORRY indeed
XanaDUer2
(10,638 posts)BigmanPigman
(51,583 posts)when I calmed down I would find a manager and go with the manager to confront the asshole, as a witness and back-up. I may be shorter than 5'2" but I have a lot of energy when something like this happens and I get MAD!
Duppers
(28,117 posts)Had she pulled out a realistic-looking toy gun, pointed it at him, and screamed, "You're threatening me! HELP!!"
Just a ridiculous thought on my part, but these assholes need something to scare them off their "I've the right to demean and intimidate anyone I chose" soapbox. Bet he wouldn't have challenged a guy bigger than him. It's a bully mentality.
demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)and I am an old short woman
Marcuse
(7,473 posts)grantcart
(53,061 posts)Last month went to a prospects house and caught his wife in the yard. He came out wearing his MAGA hat and they made an appointment for 2 weeks out.
They had been helping their son with a quartz trade show (think social distancing like Woodstock) and had to unpack their RV.
"Oh and you don't need to wear that mask next time, they don't work"
In a week got a desperate message on my phone yelling, "DON'T COME WE GOT THE COVID". Drove by their house, no signs of life, wondered if they were at the hospital.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)now that freak will get even more daring.
Ilsa
(61,692 posts)for being so stupid.
Dark n Stormy Knight
(9,760 posts)Cult.
badboy67
(460 posts)And once again, Oklahoma didn't even have one county to go Democratic in the election. Truly, one of the worst states in the Union for that sort of thing. Right down there with West Virginia. Ugh.
MissMillie
(38,546 posts)However, the part of the state I live in is red, which is very disheartening.
czarjak
(11,266 posts)Missed it by this much.