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redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:12 AM Mar 2021

They have totally lost their minds.

This morning I was in the grocery store. Everyone was masked, a man came in and went directly to an older woman who was wearing an "I got vaccinated" sticker and began to berate her. He told her that this was all a liberal hoax to remove HIS President, he told her she was now being tracked by the goverment, then as he walked away he turned back and called her a snowflake. She looked stunned, I was stunned, I should have said something but instead I walked closer to her and asked if she was ok and should I get a manager. Her eyes smiled and she said, no , she loved it, they are all nuts she said.

The sad thing is there were three other people who went up and gave him a high five as he walked away. I know I live in crazyville, I get that, but when it is right in front of your face it is pretty frightening. This is a medium sized city, can you imagine what it is like in the rural parts of Oklahoma? Good grief, a mind is a terrible thing to waste.

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They have totally lost their minds. (Original Post) redstatebluegirl Mar 2021 OP
Of course he picked on an older woman gratuitous Mar 2021 #1
Yup... hlthe2b Mar 2021 #3
After seeing her eyes smiling above her mask, I think he picked the wrong woman :-). redstatebluegirl Mar 2021 #4
The lowest form of cowardice DENVERPOPS Mar 2021 #35
Terrifying - it's like the zombie apocalypse. lagomorph777 Mar 2021 #2
Out of curiosity, where are you? hlthe2b Mar 2021 #5
Oklahoma. redstatebluegirl Mar 2021 #6
America's education system needs revision. Probably some guy that went to a Baptist basement school. Hoyt Mar 2021 #7
It's hardly restricted to that particular demographic EYESORE 9001 Mar 2021 #12
There are a disturbing number drmeow Mar 2021 #57
Are they Christians? Claire Oh Nette Mar 2021 #69
I don't know drmeow Mar 2021 #70
Saying something could have escalated it Rorey Mar 2021 #8
Yes, plus here you never know if they are armed or not. redstatebluegirl Mar 2021 #10
That's where a lot of bullies find their "courage." Harker Mar 2021 #24
You're right about how dangerous wnylib Mar 2021 #31
In order to lose something you have to have it to begin with. LisaL Mar 2021 #9
They want the freedom to kill other people. dalton99a Mar 2021 #11
Same shit if you're hard by Hellsdale College. gibraltar72 Mar 2021 #13
The proper response would have been to point and laugh at the bully FakeNoose Mar 2021 #14
They are being primed for a rightwing takeover by force or the use of illegal means like voter jalan48 Mar 2021 #15
Yup. Scary. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #19
Agreed. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #22
spot on and our ONLY hope Cosmocat Mar 2021 #40
Scary, indeed. BlancheSplanchnik Mar 2021 #82
Yes, we've become like a third world country where foreign governments (including the US) use jalan48 Mar 2021 #83
People wearing masks and getting vaccinated PatSeg Mar 2021 #16
When I go out I keep a close fwvinson Mar 2021 #27
And you know, PatSeg Mar 2021 #28
"Did you bring the bag of cheese?" Politicub Mar 2021 #17
Try: "Take the zircon to Fafa, we sail at midnight." soothsayer Mar 2021 #26
"Damn. The boat is late because 'they' blocked the Suez Canal." Politicub Mar 2021 #42
Perfect soothsayer Mar 2021 #44
Ha, ha, ha!!! PatSeg Mar 2021 #29
Act crazier than them. Delmette2.0 Mar 2021 #37
... maybe say, "...received a transmission from Q herself that someone that looks like you ..." fierywoman Mar 2021 #72
That's crossing the line to harassment. Joinfortmill Mar 2021 #18
I'm an older woman(64). blueinredohio Mar 2021 #20
I'm with you Leith Mar 2021 #25
I am 71. I still have a loud, strong voice wnylib Mar 2021 #36
I look upon it as natures way of eliminating the idiots avebury Mar 2021 #21
They MIGHT get it if they had to step over dead bodies. Maybe... nt Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #23
They have totally lost their minds... SWBTATTReg Mar 2021 #30
"Good grief, a mind is a terrible thing to waste." KS Toronado Mar 2021 #32
It's a business model. dchill Mar 2021 #38
People are morons. Republican/Nazis are America's dumbest people. johnthewoodworker Mar 2021 #33
If that happened in my Bougie local grocery, or even my local Safeway, maxsolomon Mar 2021 #34
They may have lost their minds. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #39
"Good grief, a mind is a terrible thing to waste." sarge43 Mar 2021 #41
They're losing and angry. They're wrong and frightened. Hortensis Mar 2021 #43
Violence against elderly jumped 75% before the pandemic Nululu Mar 2021 #45
I was the only shopper in the grocery store wearing a mask this morning but to be fair yaesu Mar 2021 #46
Just think how outraged they would be if an armed liberal in an open carry, tanyev Mar 2021 #47
My response to anti-maskers depends on my mood. If I'm feeling pissed-off, they get the silent, LaMouffette Mar 2021 #48
they were educated at trump University !! monkeyman1 Mar 2021 #49
The bullies are everywhere dlk Mar 2021 #50
A certified wingnut ailsagirl Mar 2021 #59
If more liberals survive than conservatives IronLionZion Mar 2021 #51
She should have asked him if it was all a hoax, rsdsharp Mar 2021 #52
I might say, "That's none of your business" Wicked Blue Mar 2021 #53
Your Bleeped Version Would Be My Choice ProfessorGAC Mar 2021 #61
This thread has given me a new response to, "the government is tracking you." "Oh, honey, they niyad Mar 2021 #54
I'm in OK also. Mickju Mar 2021 #55
I just started going back out since I got my second vaccine a month ago. I waited 2 weeks as they redstatebluegirl Mar 2021 #56
What's going to happen when people are required to show proof of vaccination to be admitted Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #75
I carry my vaccination card in my wallet. Mickju Mar 2021 #81
I've noticed that the Walmart near me has this, too, as do the other grocery stores Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #74
so Skittles Mar 2021 #58
Such is Oklahoma! Behind the Aegis Mar 2021 #76
I swear, if I ever saw it or if they said something to ME Skittles Mar 2021 #77
Thank God he didn't start shooting nt XanaDUer2 Mar 2021 #60
If someone did that to me I'd be in stunned silence at first, but then BigmanPigman Mar 2021 #62
Wonder what his response would've been Duppers Mar 2021 #63
I would have knocked the piss out of him demtenjeep Mar 2021 #64
Simply reply that Trump and family were among the first to be vaccinated. Marcuse Mar 2021 #65
Lost their minds but gained a virus grantcart Mar 2021 #66
Those "high-fives" were probably the most dangerous part... C Moon Mar 2021 #67
I probably would have laughed at him Ilsa Mar 2021 #68
So, how do TrumpSuckers like this explain their Dear Leader getting COVID Dark n Stormy Knight Mar 2021 #71
That's what 25 years of uncontested rightwing propaganda pretending to be "news" will do to you. badboy67 Mar 2021 #73
I'm very proud to say I live in the ONE blue STATE on this map MissMillie Mar 2021 #78
One year ago I was informed "this hoax will be over in two weeks". czarjak Mar 2021 #79
The death rate is very high in republican states. The plan is working. The Jungle 1 Mar 2021 #80

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
1. Of course he picked on an older woman
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:14 AM
Mar 2021

That's what bullies do: Target people they think they can physically dominate. And his brother troglodytes are right there to cheer him on.

DENVERPOPS

(8,805 posts)
35. The lowest form of cowardice
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 PM
Mar 2021

is a category called "Chicken Shits". They always will have guns, pick on a person who is smaller, pick on one person with five of them, and target the elderly, especially women.......

They are the Textbook definition of chicken shits.............

EYESORE 9001

(25,922 posts)
12. It's hardly restricted to that particular demographic
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:29 AM
Mar 2021

and I can't hold the education system responsible. If someone refuses to develop critical thinking skills, that's on them - not the educational institution.

drmeow

(5,016 posts)
57. There are a disturbing number
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 05:13 PM
Mar 2021

of nurses at my hospital who are refusing to get vaccined even though about 15% (probably more like 20%) of the staff have had positive COVID tests!

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
69. Are they Christians?
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 10:09 PM
Mar 2021

The anti vax thing is tied up with the whole right-wing trump as messiah and god will provide thing. It's a religion, just like Q.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
8. Saying something could have escalated it
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:18 AM
Mar 2021

It sounds like she was a strong woman, and I think you did the right thing.

I hope that if something like that happens to me I'll have the grace to simply say, "You're free to have your own beliefs, no matter how wrong they are." And that's it.

We know they're crazy, but we never really know how violent they might be.

Harker

(14,010 posts)
24. That's where a lot of bullies find their "courage."
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:14 PM
Mar 2021

Either in having a gun, or in having people concerned that they might.

Fearmongers.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
31. You're right about how dangerous
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:28 PM
Mar 2021

it might be to disagree with them, but it infuriates me that they can intimidate people into putting up with their BS to avoid escalation to violence.

But it's also true that trying to reason with them is impossible. I know from experience that it's like talking to a zombie or a Stepford wife.

I'm thinking that, in the future when I encounter them, I might just smile sweetly and move on. They want confrontations or fear from them. Just don't give them either reaction.

FakeNoose

(32,617 posts)
14. The proper response would have been to point and laugh at the bully
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:57 AM
Mar 2021

They hate it when they're the one being ridiculed.

jalan48

(13,854 posts)
15. They are being primed for a rightwing takeover by force or the use of illegal means like voter
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 11:58 AM
Mar 2021

suppression. It's been an ongoing process since the 80's (Limbaugh and Fox News started up back then). I think we're nearing the end result of their propaganda efforts and this mass, irrational hysteria is the evidence . Our hope lies in people like Stacey Abrams and others fighting on the front lines for our democracy.

Cosmocat

(14,561 posts)
40. spot on and our ONLY hope
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:48 PM
Mar 2021

is that those who are full on oriented like they are recognize what you just laid out, speak out to directly and without equivocation, and that we find a way to have that slightly greater majority unify in resistance to it - both in calling it for what is it is and punishing republicans SEVERELY on election day - for YEARS.

BlancheSplanchnik

(20,219 posts)
82. Scary, indeed.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 01:54 PM
Mar 2021

I hope for some way to overcome the right wing propaganda machine, because without that, we will continue to fight to establish reality as the unifying understanding in this country.

jalan48

(13,854 posts)
83. Yes, we've become like a third world country where foreign governments (including the US) use
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 11:59 AM
Mar 2021

dis-information to sway public opinion toward candidates who support policies favorable to the interfering country and large multi-national corporations. Most in the US didn't really care until those tactics were brought home and used on our own citizens.

PatSeg

(47,368 posts)
16. People wearing masks and getting vaccinated
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

are not doing anything to hurt them. Weren't these screwballs ever taught to "mind your own business"? They sure hate it when other people interfere in their lives. Everything is a one-way street for them.

Also, it is interesting that they tend to pick on the most non-threatening person in the room. Who on earth thinks it is okay to berate or attack an older woman? Maybe he should try that with a young, physically fit man and see how that goes.

 

fwvinson

(488 posts)
27. When I go out I keep a close
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:17 PM
Mar 2021

eye on the one's without masks on. If one of these assholes ever approach me or my wife, I am prepared to put them on the ground. And, the look they carry appears to look like they want someone to approach them and say something, so they can lash out. That's my observations.

PatSeg

(47,368 posts)
28. And you know,
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:22 PM
Mar 2021

I am sure you are not the only man who feels that way. I'll bet that jerk realized that woman was alone and didn't have anyone to back her up.

You're probably right, he was undoubtedly looking for a fight and when no one confronted him, he picked one.

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
17. "Did you bring the bag of cheese?"
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:00 PM
Mar 2021

I think I’m going to start asking people like him insane questions.

“What cheese?”

(Whispering) “I received a transmission that someone that looks like you was delivering the cheese. Where the cheese goes it is there now.”

“Wha? I don’t have no cheese.”

“Shhhh... they’re listening. Now the satellites will track you until you find the cheese. Find the cheese. Here, put this mask on so they don’t recognize you.”

Politicub

(12,165 posts)
42. "Damn. The boat is late because 'they' blocked the Suez Canal."
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:51 PM
Mar 2021

“Check Q for further instructions.”

Leith

(7,808 posts)
25. I'm with you
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:15 PM
Mar 2021

If anyone ever tried that shit with me, I would call for security as loud as I could - and my voice carries to the back row as the saying goes.

wnylib

(21,420 posts)
36. I am 71. I still have a loud, strong voice
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:44 PM
Mar 2021

when I choose to project it.

I was in a store where I know the management enforces the mask and distancing rules. I am 5 feet tall. As I was browsing through a video display, a 6 foot, husky guy who had pulled his mask down to his neck stood inches from me and leaned over the display as if also browsing. I moved to other side of the kiosk display and he followed me, then coughed. I belowed out, "Hey, what are you doing?"

It startled him so much that he jumped, then looked around. An employee came over to ask what was wrong and he left. Apparently he was more the sneaky, secretive type than the confrontational type, just out for a day of fun harrassing gray-haired old women.

SWBTATTReg

(22,100 posts)
30. They have totally lost their minds...
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:24 PM
Mar 2021

YES!

Besides the fact that it's none of his damn business what the 'I got vaccinated' lady does, and now is being mysteriously tracked somehow, and then called her a 'snowflake', for no cause, angers me, for what about her rights?

In the midst of all of this epidemic going on, the rights of so many are trampled on constantly by these morons. It's too bad that others didn't speak up and insist 'good for her', etc. in being vaccinated. I guess everyone was surprised at the sudden assault, I would be, and I love her response, in that they are all 'nuts'.

As a former Oklahoma resident (Tulsa), I am disappointed in this treatment of this older person (perhaps in the 75+ age group, just guessing) by a moron. I predict that sure, we'll start making inroads against covid-19, but in major parts of the Country, idiots such as this guy that berated the older lady will not still get vaccinated, will not take precautions, and thus, will get sick, and perhaps die.

No terrible loss in my mind if you ask me. I so want to hug that lady in OK for her strength but I'll settle for an elbow bump!

Thanks for sharing this story. I suspect that more and more of us will see crap like this happen.

maxsolomon

(33,284 posts)
34. If that happened in my Bougie local grocery, or even my local Safeway,
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:36 PM
Mar 2021

That man would have been escorted out by security for his own safety, before he was pelted with canned goods.

Sometimes I am very thankful I live in the Soviet of Seattle.

sarge43

(28,941 posts)
41. "Good grief, a mind is a terrible thing to waste."
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:49 PM
Mar 2021

Those mouth breathers can't waste what they don't have.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
43. They're losing and angry. They're wrong and frightened.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 12:54 PM
Mar 2021

Their positions are not sustainable. They'll continue to claim various victories, but only they will believe them, and not nearly enough.

I'm glad you didn't respond to him. They crave power and affirmation. Indifference, ignoring, and dismissal are the very opposite.

Nululu

(840 posts)
45. Violence against elderly jumped 75% before the pandemic
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:11 PM
Mar 2021

It is sad to see how cruel people are. I'm glad you offered support to the woman. Unbelievable that people were high fiving such a cowardly PoS.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
46. I was the only shopper in the grocery store wearing a mask this morning but to be fair
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:14 PM
Mar 2021

I was the only shopper in the store, 8am shopping has its perks

tanyev

(42,541 posts)
47. Just think how outraged they would be if an armed liberal in an open carry,
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:23 PM
Mar 2021

stand your ground state pulled a gun on a maskless idiot trying to get in their face and yelled, “Back up, asshole!”

LaMouffette

(2,021 posts)
48. My response to anti-maskers depends on my mood. If I'm feeling pissed-off, they get the silent,
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:28 PM
Mar 2021

poison-tipped-dart eyes.

If I'm in a good mood and don't want a stupid maskhole to ruin my day, I give them "smiley eyes" and a warm and hearty, "Good Morning!" (while keeping a very safe distance away from the jerk).

So many of them expect a battle that this response really confuses them.

dlk

(11,540 posts)
50. The bullies are everywhere
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:42 PM
Mar 2021

What kind of a loser would ever think it's okay to approach an elderly stranger and begin yelling at her? It's verbal assault.

IronLionZion

(45,410 posts)
51. If more liberals survive than conservatives
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:55 PM
Mar 2021

it could have some electoral consequences for some time. I wouldn't be surprised if this was a factor already in the 2020 election.

Wicked Blue

(5,830 posts)
53. I might say, "That's none of your business"
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 01:59 PM
Mar 2021

or That's none of your (bleeping) business

or What makes you think that my health is any of your business?

ProfessorGAC

(64,986 posts)
61. Your Bleeped Version Would Be My Choice
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 06:03 PM
Mar 2021

But, in the few situations I've been involved with I tend to say (disgustedly), "Shut Up! Why would you think I care what you believe?"
It's the opposite reaction they expect from a "snowflake". They get flummoxed and end up shutting up.

niyad

(113,219 posts)
54. This thread has given me a new response to, "the government is tracking you." "Oh, honey, they
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:01 PM
Mar 2021

have been tracking me since I was twelve. Now they don't have to waste agents to follow me."

Seriously, though, they are getting more dangerous by the minute. This older white woman walks with an oak staff, so I am probably given wide berth.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
55. I'm in OK also.
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 02:16 PM
Mar 2021

This is scaring me. I'm vaccinated but I still haven't gone out to shop. We order all our groceries from Walmart and do contactless pick up. I had never shopped at Walmart before, but it's the best option for us right now..

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
56. I just started going back out since I got my second vaccine a month ago. I waited 2 weeks as they
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 04:13 PM
Mar 2021

suggested. There are some crazy people everywhere. This was the second incident I have witnessed, the other one was at Walgreens a few months ago when I went out to get a prescription for my husband. I did not feel threatened, I was just stunned at the stupidity of it all. I don't normally engate them because, if you live here you know, many of them are armed to the teeth. I just laugh at them behind my mask and move on. In this case I wanted to check on the lady before I walked off. I am 66, she looked every bit of 80 but like me, she just thinks they are all nuts.

Rhiannon12866

(205,092 posts)
75. What's going to happen when people are required to show proof of vaccination to be admitted
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:15 AM
Mar 2021

To certain places? I'm hearing that airlines are already considering it.

Mickju

(1,800 posts)
81. I carry my vaccination card in my wallet.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 11:29 AM
Mar 2021

Just in case I ever need to prove that I have been vaccinated.

Rhiannon12866

(205,092 posts)
74. I've noticed that the Walmart near me has this, too, as do the other grocery stores
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:12 AM
Mar 2021

And I know what people say about Walmart, but the one near me not only requires masks, as do all businesses here in New York, but at Walmart they have mask checkers at the door.

Behind the Aegis

(53,939 posts)
76. Such is Oklahoma!
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:20 AM
Mar 2021

It is amazing how many of these assholes go after older people, especially women. As a gay Jew in Oklahoma, I can attest to some really fucked up behavior here. Sure, it happens all over, but sometimes....

BigmanPigman

(51,583 posts)
62. If someone did that to me I'd be in stunned silence at first, but then
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 06:07 PM
Mar 2021

when I calmed down I would find a manager and go with the manager to confront the asshole, as a witness and back-up. I may be shorter than 5'2" but I have a lot of energy when something like this happens and I get MAD!

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
63. Wonder what his response would've been
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 06:15 PM
Mar 2021

Had she pulled out a realistic-looking toy gun, pointed it at him, and screamed, "You're threatening me! HELP!!"

Just a ridiculous thought on my part, but these assholes need something to scare them off their "I've the right to demean and intimidate anyone I chose" soapbox. Bet he wouldn't have challenged a guy bigger than him. It's a bully mentality.


grantcart

(53,061 posts)
66. Lost their minds but gained a virus
Wed Mar 24, 2021, 06:50 PM
Mar 2021

Last month went to a prospects house and caught his wife in the yard. He came out wearing his MAGA hat and they made an appointment for 2 weeks out.

They had been helping their son with a quartz trade show (think social distancing like Woodstock) and had to unpack their RV.

"Oh and you don't need to wear that mask next time, they don't work"

In a week got a desperate message on my phone yelling, "DON'T COME WE GOT THE COVID". Drove by their house, no signs of life, wondered if they were at the hospital.

badboy67

(460 posts)
73. That's what 25 years of uncontested rightwing propaganda pretending to be "news" will do to you.
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 04:45 AM
Mar 2021

And once again, Oklahoma didn't even have one county to go Democratic in the election. Truly, one of the worst states in the Union for that sort of thing. Right down there with West Virginia. Ugh.

MissMillie

(38,546 posts)
78. I'm very proud to say I live in the ONE blue STATE on this map
Thu Mar 25, 2021, 05:40 AM
Mar 2021


However, the part of the state I live in is red, which is very disheartening.
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