WHAT THE HELL CAN WE DO WITH THIS REPUB NEW VOTER SUPPRESSION SHIT???????

[a kennedy]

[soothsayer]

1. Fight them tooth and nail in court and then vote them all out

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. Can't vote them out if you're not allowed to vote.

And even if you get to vote, can’t throw them out if the results can be overturned by the legislatures.

[soothsayer]

10. Two steps: 1) court victories 2) then vote them out

[Fiendish Thingy]

13. That's a big leap from step 1 to step 2. Nt

[soothsayer]

21. Well we have a year or so

And I believe Marc Elias will have success.

Jeez I hope so.

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. We have about six months- after that, new gerrymandered districts will be drawn. Nt

[soothsayer]

26. Well we have 6 months ...

[soothsayer]

33. Here's a start

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215269291

[Blue_true]

11. They make registering and voting difficult.

Difficult is not impossible. They want us to conclude “impossible” and just throw up our fucking hands and give up.

We overcome their hurdles, register to vote, check our registration, vote and make sure that our vote get counted, vote them the fuck out of office.

[Fiendish Thingy]

14. You're missing the big picture- even if everything you suggest happens, legislature can overturn

The GA law signed today allows the legislature to overrule the election board, removes the sec of state from the board, and gives them total final authority over the outcomes of elections, regardless of what voters say.

So, other than killing the filibuster and passing HR/SB1, what do you suggest can actually be done to thwart the anti-democracy laws being passed at a rapid pace by state legislatures?

[Blue_true]

18. They can't do shit if they don't win Office.

If they try to overrule their loses, they get taken to court, as agents of government and as persons. It will take a grossly unethical judge to uphold them, and my bet is that judge would get overturned.

The thing that killed gross segregation laws was Dr. King and others shedding light on how grossly unfair they were. Corporations that have major operations in Georgia won’t stick around if republicans there blatantly start over-turning their election loses, you can count on that.

Again. People overcome their efforts to prevent them from voting, then vote them out of office. We can’t do that throwing up our hands, or sitting at home instead of voting. The only way that they can truly stop a person from voting is to kill that person, if they do that, they face criminal charges.

[Fiendish Thingy]

24. Rather than fight an uncertain court battle, why not bring the heat on Manchin?

Passing SB1 would make the GA laws moot- they would fight it in court, but from a weaker position.

Thousands of vaccinated activists dogging Joe Manchin all summer, along with direct pressure and threats of political consequences from Biden and Schumer, seems like a short term strategy worth pursuing, while Marc Elias fights in state court.

[Blue_true]

28. I always have an issue with protests.

If 50% or less of the protesters vote, what do they accomplish but excite the opposite side?

Voting matters. Overcoming republican attempts to prevent voting yields tangible benefits, making a public dinner engagement uncomfortable for Joe Manchin does not.

[Fiendish Thingy]

31. So all those sit ins at lunch counters and the March on Selma were a waste of time? Nt

[Blue_true]

34. No, the time was not wasted.

People then were fighting for the fundamental right to vote. We have that today, even with attempts by republicans to make voting difficult. We also have tens and even hundreds of thousands of people who the right to vote was won for CHOOSING not to use that franchise, along with lots of young people choosing not to use it.

Voting brings about lasting change, while protests highlight a problem or a set of problems, if they are not followed by determined voting by the protesters and allied people, they don’t accomplish much.

[mahina]

19. Support Marc Elias. Ask people w money to also. Follow him. Read Democracy Docket

https://www.democracydocket.com/

Link to tweet

Support Stacey Abrams Financially if you can to the extent you can and ask people with money to do so to

[hlthe2b]

2. Turn on Rachel Maddow: Marc Elias is about to tell us

[Fiendish Thingy]

3. Turn up the heat on Manchin and Sinema- thousands of protestors follow them all summer. Nt

[mucifer]

5. I get the feeling there is a plan. There just has to be

[mahina]

20. Read Marc E Elias. Working on the Court challenge

Now

[mahina]

35. Link to his page announcing suit below

Link to tweet

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Voting rights act ? Read on...

[WhiskeyGrinder]

6. Support orgs on the ground.

https://blackvotersmatterfund.org/georgia-resources/

[a kennedy]

8. Thank you for this am keeping it handy. Thank you.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

12. Always look for who's doing the work on the ground. 99 times out of a hundred, someone has

an organization and a plan that just needs resources.

[Blue_true]

7. Overcome their ham-fisted bullshit, register to vote, then vote all those assholes

out of office.

The only way that republicans won’t try voter suppression is when they don’t hold public office and have no influence on the people that do.

[taxi]

9. What would Upton Sinclair have done?

We have an advantage that Sinclair didn't. That advantage in in the size of the employee base of large businesses. Let's say that some of the workforce walks around in hats, and more than a few of them have lots to complain about. Personally, I would want to point out that ever since the election was stolen the boss doesn't care if any of you hats vote again. They never cared if I voted or not, so the only people that are losing are you guys again. Good luck.

[sop]

15. Perhaps Democrats should pass a few laws of their own.

For example, I propose a law requiring voters in predominantly white, Republican districts to name three Tyler Perry movies, or explain the differences between Mariachi, Norteño, and Banda ranchera music before they can enter polling places.

[PJMcK]

16. Sorry, I can't hear you.

(wink)

[Fullduplexxx]

17. Learn what the rules are and obide by them ... bring your own water

Makes sure you have whatever I'd they want . Learn how the provisional ballet in your area works . Do souls to polls on a Saturday , those that ccx an donate to groups who will sue the states ... dont make excuses make a plan.

I'm really you cant give people water?

[soothsayer]

23. That's not exactly a new rule, from what I've seen

But it’s more explicit.

Snip

Georgia law already bans gifts to voters
Existing Georgia law bans giving gifts "for the purpose of registering as a voter, voting, or voting for a particular candidate." That provision doesn’t mention food or water directly, but the Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger has interpreted it to include food or water.

In February, the Georgia elections board referred for investigation to prosecutors a couple of cases in which candidates gave food or water to voters.

Matthew Wilson bought four pizzas and passed out slices to those in line to vote in 2018, according to Reporter Newspapers. Wilson, a Democrat who won his race for state representative, said he distributed the pizza after getting permission from a poll manager. Kelly Rose, a Democrat who lost a state senate race, told PolitiFact that her team handed out water, oranges and chips at a 2020 polling site. "A woman passed out one day we were there," Rose told PolitiFact. Rose said she didn’t campaign at the site and didn’t break the law. (A state law bans soliciting votes within 150 feet of a building where voting takes place.)

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2021/mar/09/facebook-posts/georgia-bill-would-ban-giving-food-water-voters-li/

[Hoyt]

22. Turn out to vote like we did 2008, 2012, 2018, 2020.

We have 18 months to prepare for the next election. I think we are smart and organized enough to do what is needed to get even more people out to vote. And that's true whether or not the law gets overturned.

[LymphocyteLover]

27. Yes-- I'm pretty sure we are freaking fired up to defeat these freaking fascists

[triron]

29. You're not paying attention. You can't vote them out.

[Hoyt]

30. I'm not quitting that easily, and I doubt few Democrats are.

[Ka-Dinh Oy]

32. They are just vile and evil people.

The only people they want voting are white, far right Christian males who make no less than 250,000 a year. Oh yeah, far far right conservatives.

What vile people.