Joe Manchin must rethink his voting rights act position or go down in history as a racist enabler.

[Augiedog]

After what the Georgia republicans did to voting rights it is clear what the Republican Party now believes is it’s only path to power. Voter suppression is their go to plan across America. Senator Manchin is living in fantasyland if he thinks he will get even one Republican Senator to stand up for the voting rights act.

History will be unforgiving of all republicans in this era of anti-partisanship. It will be even more intolerant of Dems who support racist anti voting rights positions. Georgias’ racist anti voting rights efforts will be seen as a road map for a legal overthrow of American democracy. States will bend every effort to copy Georgia. Joe Manchin may well find himself the poster child for contemporary racist ideology...kinda like Storm Thurmond is for his era.

There is no doubt that Georgia will find itself in numerous lawsuits contesting its new law. That will probably take years and may end up in the supreme courts of both Georgia and the U.S. But that will be long after the federal voting rights act bill has seen its day on the senate floor.

Radical extremist republicans are now in charge of their party and their senatorial and congressional representatives. They have shown us clearly who they are, what they intend, and how they intend to do it...believe them. President Biden expressed in his press briefing that what republicans are doing is “sick”. He is correct. The future of democracy is at stake and pretending that republicans have America’s interest at heart before their loyalty to party is folly of the worst sort.

[dalton99a]

1. Manchin only cares about Manchin. He certainly doesn't give a shit about people of color.

[speak easy]

16. And you reason(s) for such a broad brush statement are?

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. K & R!

[PA_jen]

3. Manchin will be the enabler of the downfall of American Democracy.

If Georgia gets away with this bill. How many other State Republican chambers will follow suit. This will basically destroy democracy in America.

We will have Republican Controlled States Will null any and all Democrat wins.

This is fascism.

[bullwinkle428]

5. K&R. I was waiting for the perfect thread to drop my latest moniker

for Manchin, and thank you, Augiedog, for providing it!

Joe Manchin : "America's Last Dixie-Crat"!

[WHITT]

6. I Say

put it on the floor and see if he wants to be the ONLY Dem voting against. It has 49 co-sponsors.

[nevergiveup]

7. He thrives on the publicity

and is a pain in the ass but in the end he will vote for the voting rights act just like he voted twice to impeach Trump.

[Celerity]

12. He cannot vote for something that is filibustered, and as each week goes by, he tosses another

possible modification of the filibuster into the bin. His partner in obstructionism Sinema actually wants a 60 vote threshold on ALL Senate actions (not joking) and wants the exceptions for POTUS nominations (including SCOTUS) reversed. She also wants to do away with reconciliation. It is madness.

Manchin just reiterated that he will not give up the 60 vote threshold for invoking cloture, which puts paid to the so-called taking filibuster restoration.

[Celerity]

20. For me it is all about the process. I want to know what modifications to the

filibuster they will accept. Sinema may be even harder to bring on board than Manchin as she has, as far as I know, not even mentioned support for modifications. In fact she wants a 60 vote threshold for ALL Senate business, including all POTUS government nominations, all judicial nominations (including SCOTUS), and an end to reconciliation! Then there is Feinstein, the 3rd (and rarely discussed) hard No vote to ending the filibuster. What mods will she accept? Will the modifications that come out of this actually work and allow a successful cloture vote? How much of the multiple bills will be stripped out to satisfy Manchin and Sinema? Will those parts that are removed (if some parts indeed are stripped out) render this bills ineffectual in certain areas?

Without modification (or outright binning which will never happen due to the 3 Senators listed, and maybe more) there is ZERO chance we pass ANY major remotely disputed legislation other than 1 more reconciliation bill later this year and one in 2022 (not two, we had a double shot this year because there was no reconciliation bill passed in 2020 for the 2021 fiscal year). Maybe we can squeeze a few smaller things into a 'must pass' type bill. That is it. All else is DOA unless we sort the filibuster somehow, some way.

For simply asking those absolutely legitimate, absolutely germane questions, and giving detailed, documented background, I am being attacked by multiple posters, including 10 day old accounts, lol. I have been accused of 'not trusting our leaders', attacking Manchin, being disloyal (wtf), using RW talking points (lolol, double wtf), etc etc. It is madness. Almost to a person, (in fact I do believe it is every poster doing those things) not one has even attempted to answer any of the questions I have posed. Damn near all they do is hurl dodgy ad hominem, attempt to silence via intimidation/'put you on defence' tactics, toss out a never-ending stream of logical fallacies, and try to pettifog via a series of subject change attempts.

[SYFROYH]

9. Thats the type of thing that gets him reelected.

[brooklynite]

11. Funny that President Biden doesn't use that language...

...maybe the blogosphere knows better?

[LawDem]

13. He's annoying, but he's also playing chess

Believe me, Joe Manchin drives me crazy, too. But he’s a democrat who keeps getting elected in Georgia, an astonishing accomplishment. Maybe I’m wrong, but I think he’s playing chess now. My bet is his final move will be to support the voting rights bills, probably after forcing a few painful but acceptable changes.

[BGBD]

14. OH look

DU letting another post openly flaunting the forum rules remain.

Another thread bashing the man who holds a democratic seat in an R+40 state, giving Democrats control of a 50/50 senate. Calling him racist because he doesn't want to get rid of the filibuster.

What would keep republicans from getting unified government again in a few years and then passing a law, with 50 votes, that makes the GA law a national one? And before somebody says "RePuBliCanS WiLl JuSt Do It AnYwAy!" They could have done it from 2017-2019 to pass all of their agenda items and didn't, for a reason.

[budkin]

15. He's going to choose Racist enabler

Because Joe Manchin

[speak easy]

17. Another 2-minute hate trough.

An OP that compares Joe Manchin to Storm Thormond?

[Sur Zobra]

19. 3...2...1...Cue the Manchin apologists

[LiberalFighter]

21. Manchin is stuck in the past.

[themaguffin]

22. I hope him being from the same state as Byrd isn't lost on him.