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Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:34 PM

Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background ch

Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background check
Boulder's Police chief says a semi-automatic Ruger AR-556 purchased in Arvada was used in the grocery store attack that left 10 people dead.

[link:https://coloradosun.com/2021/03/26/arvada-eagles-nest-armory-boulder-shooting/|


“We are absolutely shocked by what happened and our hearts are broken for the victims and families that are left behind,” John Mark Eagleton, owners of Eagles Nest Armory, said in a statement first reported by 9News. “Ensuring every sale that occurs at our shop is lawful, has always been and will always remain the highest priority for our business.”

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, 21, lived not far from the Eagles Nest Armory. The Colorado Sun called the store on Wednesday to ask if it had ever sold Alissa a weapon and a person who answered the phone said they weren’t commenting “at this time.”

Eagleton on Friday did not say when his store sold a gun to Alissa.

Police say Alissa purchased an AR-556 firearm six days before the shooting. The gun is a smaller version of the popular AR-15 rifle.

On Friday morning Boulder Police Chief Maris Herold said a semi-automatic Ruger AR-556 was used in the Boulder shooting and that it was purchased legally in Arvada. It is not clear whether the weapon the suspect purchased at the Eagles Nest Armory is the one used in the attack. Boulder County District Attorney Michael Dougherty, when directly asked Friday if the AR-556 used the attack was purchased at Eagles Nest, declined to say.

“We have and will continue to fully cooperate with law enforcement as their investigation continues,” Eagleton said in his written statement

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Reply Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background ch (Original post)
gldstwmn Mar 26 OP
Wingus Dingus Mar 26 #1
gratuitous Mar 26 #3
gldstwmn Mar 26 #6
lapfog_1 Mar 26 #2
Turbineguy Mar 26 #4
underpants Mar 26 #8
WHITT Mar 26 #5
gldstwmn Mar 26 #7
bullwinkle428 Mar 26 #9
crickets Mar 26 #10
csziggy Mar 26 #11
gldstwmn Mar 26 #13
csziggy Mar 26 #17
gldstwmn Mar 26 #18
csziggy Mar 26 #19
gldstwmn Mar 26 #21
maxsolomon Mar 26 #12
kimbutgar Mar 26 #14
maxsolomon Mar 26 #15
kimbutgar Mar 26 #16
csziggy Mar 26 #20

Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:35 PM

1. Feel bad? Hearts broken? The get out of the business, stop taking money

from killers and loons.

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Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 PM

3. They don't feel that bad

And their hearts aren't so broken that they turned a quick buck before the latest massacre. The next customers coming into their shop looking for their very own AR-15 will be cordially welcomed and cheerfully processed, and then handed their weapon.

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Response to Wingus Dingus (Reply #1)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:54 PM

6. Thank you.

Am I the only one who thinks the business name is too cute by half?
They are open for business today I might add.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 PM

2. I wonder how Eagleton would feel

if Alissa had picked his store rather than King Soopers?

That is if he was still alive.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:43 PM

4. They sell guns designed to kill people.

Dissonance.

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Response to Turbineguy (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:58 PM

8. Shocked SHOCKED at what happened I tells ya

Who coulda thunk it?
A pistol dressed up as a machine gun like in all the movies and mass shooting news reports used for THIS??? Will wonders never cease?

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:44 PM

5. He Bought The Gun

the same day as the Atlanta Anti-Asian hate-crime shootings.

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Response to WHITT (Reply #5)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:55 PM

7. I didn't realize that.

Thank you for making that connection.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:07 PM

9. "Eagle's Nest Armory" - interesting allusion to Hitler's getaway spot.

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Response to bullwinkle428 (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:18 PM

10. White supremacy/fascist sympathizers

literally set up shop in plain sight for people who know the references. Thanks for pointing that out, bullwinkle. It wouldn't have occurred to me. Madison Cawthorne would recognize it right away, though.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:19 PM

11. So although his family knew he was mentally ill, there were no public records?

That would have shown up in the background check. This needs to be addressed, though if he never went to a professional for care, there would be no record.

If the stigma of mental illness were removed, maybe more people would get help for themselves or for family members that they know have problems. Or if were covered under health insurance so it was not costly, more help could be given.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #11)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:56 PM

13. He had an assault charge.

I am not certain why it didn't show up on the background check.
His family were either unaware of the red flag law or did not care to utilize it.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #13)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 04:30 PM

17. Had he been convicted?

If not, it wouldn't show up.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #17)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 04:40 PM

18. Yes, he was convicted.

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Response to gldstwmn (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 05:53 PM

19. Then the gun shop background check failed

Or they really didn't do one, and are claiming to have to cover their asses.

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Response to csziggy (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 06:11 PM

21. It will be interesting to see what, if anything

happens with them. I'd also like to know how the CBI missed the assault charge or if they knew and cleared him anyway.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:49 PM

12. Background checks will never catch young Rampage Shooters.

So many of these losers it's their 1st purchase, and they don't ever plan on making another. Do they have anything on their record? Not yet, but just wait a week!

We need a FURTHER layer of protection for society, something like a Voight Kampff test from Blade Runner, or the "Baseline" test from Blade Runner 2049. A mental evaluation that would smoke out impulsive anger or schizophrenia.

I'm loathe to have that administered by the cops, but I don't know who else to look to. A panel of Psychiatrists?

Pre-emptive for Gunners: yes I know what "shall not infringe" means.

On edit: the Hare Psychopathy Test: https://www.learning-mind.com/hare-psychopathy-checklist/#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20way%20of%20detecting%20whether%20a,that%20describe%20certain%20traits%20and%20rate%20them%20accordingly.

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Response to gldstwmn (Original post)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:02 PM

14. I hope these store owners are haunted every night by the spirits of people who died as a result

Of them selling those military style weapons to idiots who have no business owning them in the first place!

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #14)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:07 PM

15. They probably sleep perfectly well.

It's not their fault; they complied with all the rules.

You'd have to be a Sociopath to be in that business.

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Response to maxsolomon (Reply #15)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:10 PM

16. But wouldn't a little twilight zone payback be sweet?

you’re right if you sell guns you’re probably evil in your soul.

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Response to kimbutgar (Reply #16)

Fri Mar 26, 2021, 05:54 PM

20. Aha! A story idea

Based on the Dickens Christmas one but a gun shop owner for Scrooge and ghosts of gun victims. Too bad I am not a writer.

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