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gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:34 PM Mar 2021

Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background ch

Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background check
Boulder's Police chief says a semi-automatic Ruger AR-556 purchased in Arvada was used in the grocery store attack that left 10 people dead.

[link:https://coloradosun.com/2021/03/26/arvada-eagles-nest-armory-boulder-shooting/|


“We are absolutely shocked by what happened and our hearts are broken for the victims and families that are left behind,” John Mark Eagleton, owners of Eagles Nest Armory, said in a statement first reported by 9News. “Ensuring every sale that occurs at our shop is lawful, has always been and will always remain the highest priority for our business.”

Ahmad Al Aliwi Alissa, 21, lived not far from the Eagles Nest Armory. The Colorado Sun called the store on Wednesday to ask if it had ever sold Alissa a weapon and a person who answered the phone said they weren’t commenting “at this time.”

Eagleton on Friday did not say when his store sold a gun to Alissa.

Police say Alissa purchased an AR-556 firearm six days before the shooting. The gun is a smaller version of the popular AR-15 rifle.

On Friday morning Boulder Police Chief Maris Herold said a semi-automatic Ruger AR-556 was used in the Boulder shooting and that it was purchased legally in Arvada. It is not clear whether the weapon the suspect purchased at the Eagles Nest Armory is the one used in the attack. Boulder County District Attorney Michael Dougherty, when directly asked Friday if the AR-556 used the attack was purchased at Eagles Nest, declined to say.

“We have and will continue to fully cooperate with law enforcement as their investigation continues,” Eagleton said in his written statement

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Arvada gun shop says it sold firearm to suspect in Boulder King Soopers shooting after background ch (Original Post) gldstwmn Mar 2021 OP
Feel bad? Hearts broken? The get out of the business, stop taking money Wingus Dingus Mar 2021 #1
They don't feel that bad gratuitous Mar 2021 #3
Thank you. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #6
I wonder how Eagleton would feel lapfog_1 Mar 2021 #2
They sell guns designed to kill people. Turbineguy Mar 2021 #4
Shocked SHOCKED at what happened I tells ya underpants Mar 2021 #8
He Bought The Gun WHITT Mar 2021 #5
I didn't realize that. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #7
"Eagle's Nest Armory" - interesting allusion to Hitler's getaway spot. bullwinkle428 Mar 2021 #9
White supremacy/fascist sympathizers crickets Mar 2021 #10
So although his family knew he was mentally ill, there were no public records? csziggy Mar 2021 #11
He had an assault charge. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #13
Had he been convicted? csziggy Mar 2021 #17
Yes, he was convicted. gldstwmn Mar 2021 #18
Then the gun shop background check failed csziggy Mar 2021 #19
It will be interesting to see what, if anything gldstwmn Mar 2021 #21
Background checks will never catch young Rampage Shooters. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #12
I hope these store owners are haunted every night by the spirits of people who died as a result kimbutgar Mar 2021 #14
They probably sleep perfectly well. maxsolomon Mar 2021 #15
But wouldn't a little twilight zone payback be sweet? kimbutgar Mar 2021 #16
Aha! A story idea csziggy Mar 2021 #20

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
3. They don't feel that bad
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 PM
Mar 2021

And their hearts aren't so broken that they turned a quick buck before the latest massacre. The next customers coming into their shop looking for their very own AR-15 will be cordially welcomed and cheerfully processed, and then handed their weapon.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
6. Thank you.
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:54 PM
Mar 2021

Am I the only one who thinks the business name is too cute by half?
They are open for business today I might add.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
2. I wonder how Eagleton would feel
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:38 PM
Mar 2021

if Alissa had picked his store rather than King Soopers?

That is if he was still alive.

underpants

(182,632 posts)
8. Shocked SHOCKED at what happened I tells ya
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 01:58 PM
Mar 2021

Who coulda thunk it?
A pistol dressed up as a machine gun like in all the movies and mass shooting news reports used for THIS??? Will wonders never cease?

crickets

(25,952 posts)
10. White supremacy/fascist sympathizers
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:18 PM
Mar 2021

literally set up shop in plain sight for people who know the references. Thanks for pointing that out, bullwinkle. It wouldn't have occurred to me. Madison Cawthorne would recognize it right away, though.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
11. So although his family knew he was mentally ill, there were no public records?
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:19 PM
Mar 2021

That would have shown up in the background check. This needs to be addressed, though if he never went to a professional for care, there would be no record.

If the stigma of mental illness were removed, maybe more people would get help for themselves or for family members that they know have problems. Or if were covered under health insurance so it was not costly, more help could be given.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
13. He had an assault charge.
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:56 PM
Mar 2021

I am not certain why it didn't show up on the background check.
His family were either unaware of the red flag law or did not care to utilize it.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
19. Then the gun shop background check failed
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 05:53 PM
Mar 2021

Or they really didn't do one, and are claiming to have to cover their asses.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
21. It will be interesting to see what, if anything
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 06:11 PM
Mar 2021

happens with them. I'd also like to know how the CBI missed the assault charge or if they knew and cleared him anyway.

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
12. Background checks will never catch young Rampage Shooters.
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 02:49 PM
Mar 2021

So many of these losers it's their 1st purchase, and they don't ever plan on making another. Do they have anything on their record? Not yet, but just wait a week!

We need a FURTHER layer of protection for society, something like a Voight Kampff test from Blade Runner, or the "Baseline" test from Blade Runner 2049. A mental evaluation that would smoke out impulsive anger or schizophrenia.

I'm loathe to have that administered by the cops, but I don't know who else to look to. A panel of Psychiatrists?

Pre-emptive for Gunners: yes I know what "shall not infringe" means.

On edit: the Hare Psychopathy Test: https://www.learning-mind.com/hare-psychopathy-checklist/#:~:text=The%20most%20common%20way%20of%20detecting%20whether%20a,that%20describe%20certain%20traits%20and%20rate%20them%20accordingly.

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
14. I hope these store owners are haunted every night by the spirits of people who died as a result
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:02 PM
Mar 2021

Of them selling those military style weapons to idiots who have no business owning them in the first place!

maxsolomon

(33,252 posts)
15. They probably sleep perfectly well.
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:07 PM
Mar 2021

It's not their fault; they complied with all the rules.

You'd have to be a Sociopath to be in that business.

kimbutgar

(21,060 posts)
16. But wouldn't a little twilight zone payback be sweet?
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 03:10 PM
Mar 2021

you’re right if you sell guns you’re probably evil in your soul.

csziggy

(34,131 posts)
20. Aha! A story idea
Fri Mar 26, 2021, 05:54 PM
Mar 2021

Based on the Dickens Christmas one but a gun shop owner for Scrooge and ghosts of gun victims. Too bad I am not a writer.

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