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It was the preamble to Putins most important message in years to what he called the American establishment, the ruling class. He said the US leadership is determined to have relations with Russia, but only on its own terms.
Although they think that we are the same as they are, we are different people. We have a different genetic, cultural and moral code. But we know how to defend our own interests. And we will work with them, but in those areas in which we ourselves are interested, and on those conditions that we consider beneficial for ourselves. And they will have to reckon with it. They will have to reckon with this, despite all attempts to stop our development. Despite the sanctions, insults, they will have to reckon with this.
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Yang Jiechi, the Communist Party of Chinas foreign-affairs chief, responded by denouncing American hypocrisy. He said:
The US does not have the qualification to say that it wants to speak to China from a position of strength. The US uses its military force and financial hegemony to carry out long-arm jurisdiction and suppress other countries. It abuses so-called notions of national security to obstruct normal trade exchanges, and to incite some countries to attack China.
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What will this mean in practice? Both Russia and China are signaling they will only deal with the West where and when it suits them. Sanctions no longer worry them. The two powers are also showing they are increasingly comfortable working together as close partners, if not yet military allies. They will step up their cooperation in areas where they have mutual interests and the development of alternatives to the Western-dominated trade and payments systems.
Countries in Asia and further afield are closely watching the development of this alternative international order, led by Moscow and Beijing. And they can also recognize the signs of increasing US economic and political decline.
It is a new kind of Cold War, but not one based on ideology like the first incarnation. It is a war for international legitimacy, a struggle for hearts and minds and money in the very large part of the world not aligned to the US or the North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
https://asiatimes.com/2021/03/russia-and-china-tell-biden-the-old-days-are-over/
everyonematters
(3,433 posts)it's autocracy against democracy.
malaise
(268,913 posts)It's US interests against everyone else. The US and other Western powers have put more military dictators and autocrats in office than I care to count. The rest of the planet has had it with the hypocrisy.
What makes it worse is that Trump just tried to overthrow democracy in the US.
I love democracy and the rule of law, but I don't wear blinkers. The US is in no position to speak to anyone else on this subject at this time.
everyonematters
(3,433 posts)Hopefully those days are over.
Iliyah
(25,111 posts)See ya there
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts)Red Mountain
(1,730 posts)Not the least of which is an aging population.
How well will it work for them to pick a fight with their biggest customer?
TheBlackAdder
(28,183 posts).
The fastest growing population, next gen citizens, will be Indonesian and West Asian areas.
Like anything else, they can pick a fight with us, because we are addicted to cheap disposable shit.
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Red Mountain
(1,730 posts)Where is the power there?
If you had to pick a side to win a no-holds-barred trade dispute.......who would you pick?
I'd say the US. It would require immigration reform and be very disruptive but we'd be fine.
former9thward
(31,974 posts)China relies on the world's middle class to buy its products. The world's middle class is growing by hundreds of millions every year. They are not longer dependent on the U.S. to buy stuff. On the other hand we are dependent on them to buy our debt.
ismnotwasm
(41,975 posts)Oh for gods sake. What an asshole piece of shit.
abqtommy
(14,118 posts)the unbalanced lap dog former pRESIDENT guy. Now they're dealing with President
Biden who is The Real Deal and Russia and China are really worried.
Red Mountain
(1,730 posts)that's what scares them the most.
They're fading......and as the fossil fuel economy dies so will they.
Except for the nukes. Plenty of those. That and hubris.
newdayneeded
(1,955 posts)When one divorced parent is more firm with rules, and one parent allows the kid to get away with everything. Which parent does the kid favor? I'll let you figure out which parent is donny and which is Biden.
joetheman
(1,450 posts)gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The craven former guy is no longer squatting in the Oval Office, making obeisances to dictators the world over. Feeling sad and lonely, boys? Boo hoo. President Biden has a lot of damage to undo, and a lot of alliances to repair. You're not going to have your spies get a free run through the White House anymore, and President Biden isn't conducting the affairs of state on an unsecured Android phone. Gonna have to go back to working for a living.
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)nt
JI7
(89,246 posts)among people in Russia.
China was able to easily spread their power without much pushback while Trump was there and this is no longer true . Unlike Russia they actually do have power though .