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IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 12:06 AM Mar 2021

Women are still only making $0.82 to the dollar that men earn.

This not only affects paychecks but also retirement/ social security and 401ks.

Equal Pay Day, which falls on March 24 this year, denotes how far into the new year women must work to be paid what men were paid the previous year.
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Women are still only making $0.82 to the dollar that men earn. (Original Post) IcyPeas Mar 2021 OP
White women mahina Mar 2021 #1
You are correct.... Women of color can earn even less... IcyPeas Mar 2021 #2
Correct Lithos Mar 2021 #3
This does point to a problem, but not the one many assume. Amishman Mar 2021 #4
I used to work in the HVAC trade and I never saw a women doing such work Kaleva Mar 2021 #5
Women are not excluded from the trades. former9thward Mar 2021 #6
I didn't say anything about exclusion or discrimination Amishman Mar 2021 #8
Interestingly, when women start to dominate a profession, the pay goes down. WhiskeyGrinder Mar 2021 #9
Not in the job I have the union makes sure of that Fullduplexxx Mar 2021 #7

IcyPeas

(21,857 posts)
2. You are correct.... Women of color can earn even less...
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:20 AM
Mar 2021
White women earned 79 cents, while Asian American and Pacific Islander women earned 85 cents. Worse off are Black women, who earned 63 cents, while Latinas earned 55 cents and Native American women earned 60 cents. That's according to a report from the National Women's Law Center, which based its estimates on median earnings data for full-time, year-round workers from the Census Bureau.


https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/24/success/equal-pay-day-women/index.html

Lithos

(26,403 posts)
3. Correct
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 01:38 AM
Mar 2021

While I'm happy the ratio has decreased for White Women - it's still a national tragedy. Remains a disaster for women of color.

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Amishman

(5,554 posts)
4. This does point to a problem, but not the one many assume.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 06:36 AM
Mar 2021

Last edited Sun Mar 28, 2021, 07:51 AM - Edit history (1)

When comparing same the pay gap for the exact same job, it's 0.98 for women. Pretty close, especially when considering that women do tend to temporarily drop out of the workforce more than men mid career (due to maternity).

https://www.payscale.com/data/gender-pay-gap

The real issue is not enough women in certain high paying industries. I work in software development, and while I have seen some improvement in this area, it is still predominantly male. Especially when you look at higher paid speciality positions. When working on a large insurance automated underwriting project I worked with a bunch of actuarial developers. Every single one was male. We paid these guys about 40% more than a regular software developer - which is a high paying job itself.

Also true in the trades. Plumbers, electricians, various heavy equipment operators - all pay well and all predominantly male.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
5. I used to work in the HVAC trade and I never saw a women doing such work
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 06:59 AM
Mar 2021

In the two years I attended a nearby college porpgram learnign the trade, there was not one woman in the program.

Women dominate in the office, except for the owner who was a man who had years of experience doing work in the field himself.

former9thward

(31,970 posts)
6. Women are not excluded from the trades.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:01 AM
Mar 2021

They are not interested in going into them. For the last four years I helped administer a federal program which gave free tuition and other expenses for community colleges to people (generally recently graduated high school students) who were interested in going into the trades. With rare exception we could not get women to take up the offer.

Amishman

(5,554 posts)
8. I didn't say anything about exclusion or discrimination
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:16 AM
Mar 2021

I just commented that they are simply not there.

Based on my experience in IT, there doesn't appear to be any exclusion going on. If anything I see a willingness to hire a woman over a man even if the woman objectively would be the second or third best candidate. There just aren't as many woman applicants for these jobs.

WhiskeyGrinder

(22,316 posts)
9. Interestingly, when women start to dominate a profession, the pay goes down.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:20 AM
Mar 2021

When men come in, it goes up.

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