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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 05:53 AM Mar 2021

GOP: "Democrats are forcing us to elect fascists against our will! We are the real victims here!"

https://www.thedailybeast.com/meghan-mccain-says-criticism-of-marjorie-taylor-greene-is-how-we-got-trump

With the GOP facing increasing pressure to reprimand or even expel Greene from the House, McCain on Monday grumbled that Republicans as a whole have been unfairly maligned due to the controversy surrounding the Georgia lawmaker. The View co-host’s conclusion was that liberals associating Republicans with Greene will push conservatives to rally around and embrace her more.

After fellow co-hosts Sunny Hostin and Joy Behar both said Greene “is the Republican Party now” and the “Republican Party is the MAGA Party”—noting that House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy has remained silent on her—McCain retorted that this type of commentary will ultimately backfire.

“I think the more that the mainstream media continues to come out and say that all Republicans are birthers and crazy people and we believe in space lasers, then the more it makes traditional Republicans—and there’s still a lot of them in the country—go back into their corners,” she declared. “And this is becoming very tribal, and I would argue that this is how we got Trump in the first place and that there’s just no nuance in it.”


Republicans are refusing to separate from Marjorie Taylor Greene, but it's somehow wrong for the Democrats to lump Marjorie Taylor Greene and the Republicans together?



https://www.salon.com/2021/02/10/meghan-mccain-marjorie-taylor-greene-will-be-president-if-democrats-keep-demonizing-republicans_partner/

"I'm trying to do my part in putting positivity in the world and meet in the middle on this show as much as I possibly can because I ultimately can only control myself," McCain said. "I really call to the rest of you on this show and to everyone in America to all of us collectively come together and really try to amp down this temperature as much as we can because I don't want to see any more violence, and I'm actually scared about what the future holds, and if we just keep demonizing each other, and attaching all Republicans with those lunatics on Capitol Hill, we're going to end up with a Marjorie Taylor Greene as president, and I'm more fearful of that than anything else facing us in the future."


So, what Meghan McCain is saying that... After they voted Trump not out of policy but just to spite Hillary Clinton, we must be extra careful with the feelings of republican voters or else they will vote Greene not out of policy but just to spite the Democrats.

"Well, I used to dislike Greene, but after the Democrats called us out for refusing to cut ties with that fascist, I will have no choice but to vote for that fascist."

That's the problem with Republicans nowadays: They no longer have free will. If the Democrats dislike something, then they automatically MUST like it.



https://www.mediamatters.org/tucker-carlson/tucker-carlson-and-guest-warn-hunter-biden-scandals-are-leading-right-towards

TUCKER CARLSON (HOST): I think you make a really solid point about the sadness and the powerlessness that people feel in the face of this. And some point people are going to say, "Why should I follow the rules? Why should I be a good citizen if they don't have to follow the rules?" I mean, things kind of break down at some point, don't they?

JESSE KELLY: They will break down, they are breaking down, Tucker. I have said this before, and I'm telling you I'm worried that I'm right, the right is going to pick a fascist within 10 to 20 years --

CARLSON: Right. That's right.

KELLY: -- Because they're not going to be the only one -- the only ones on the outs.

There's 60, 70 million of us. We're not a tiny minority, and if we're going to be all treated like criminals and all subject to every single law, while antifa Black Lives Matter guys go free and Hunter Biden goes free, then the right's going to take drastic measures.

...

CARLSON: That's so well put and you're absolutely right. We are moving toward actual extremism because they're undermining the system that kept extremism at bay. I don't think we can say that enough. I'm so glad that you just said it. Jesse Kelly, thank you.


"Oh No! We Republicans are going fascist because of the political incompetence of Democrats and there is no way for us Republicans to possibly stop ourselves from doing that!"
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GOP: "Democrats are forcing us to elect fascists against our will! We are the real victims here!" (Original Post) DetlefK Mar 2021 OP
You are a registered Republican Meghan. You identify with and participate in the Republican Party. speak easy Mar 2021 #1
Their vicious base has to be pleased by primary candidates, and Hortensis Mar 2021 #2
GOP is the party of the multigraincracker Mar 2021 #3
this is worrisome Terry_M Mar 2021 #4
+1 DetlefK Mar 2021 #22
Republicans became Nazis. They embrace hatred, Whiteness, and evil. All others opposed. johnthewoodworker Mar 2021 #5
Doublespeak Laha Mar 2021 #6
Oh my god... ck4829 Mar 2021 #7
Playing the victim card again. How tiresome. n/t sarge43 Mar 2021 #8
Just remember their defence, no kacekwl Mar 2021 #9
So they can demonize all democrats as much as they want ms liberty Mar 2021 #10
Actually the Repug party will just dwindle away... Jon King Mar 2021 #11
This is one of the biggest piles of GQP bullshit I've seen and I've Liberal In Texas Mar 2021 #12
DECADES of Cons hate framing EVERY democrat as god and country hating SOCIALISTS Cosmocat Mar 2021 #13
Republicans are universally deluded, and lacking in self-awareness. Roisin Ni Fiachra Mar 2021 #14
"If you keep criticizing us, lildDemz Mar 2021 #15
It's never their fault...never... Wounded Bear Mar 2021 #16
Republicans: Even as they scorch the Earth and everyone on it to Death. THEY are the victims. CousinIT Mar 2021 #17
Let me see if I have this straight ... Ohioboy Mar 2021 #18
If you're not willing to impeach a corrupt fascist when given 2 chances milestogo Mar 2021 #19
At least she openly admits they're fascist. ancianita Mar 2021 #20
What color is the sky in their world? LittleGirl Mar 2021 #21
The party of personal responsibility again takes no responsibility. niyad Mar 2021 #23
Way to paint yourselves into an ideological corner with no escape. Idiots. nt crickets Mar 2021 #24
Meghan Lindsey-Lohan-of-the-GOP needs to STFU. Her nonsensical reasonings are baloney. She is not onetexan Mar 2021 #25
Just write it on the wall, Meghan Leith Mar 2021 #26

speak easy

(9,245 posts)
1. You are a registered Republican Meghan. You identify with and participate in the Republican Party.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 05:59 AM
Mar 2021

Own it.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
2. Their vicious base has to be pleased by primary candidates, and
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 06:14 AM
Mar 2021

then the McCains endorse and elect their choices. Who's worse? The crazies who've become disconnected from right and wrong or those who still know what it is enough to engage in this protective hypocrisy?

Terry_M

(745 posts)
4. this is worrisome
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 07:08 AM
Mar 2021

They started feeding the 'oh no election fraud' lines months ahead of the election, so that by the time the election took place it was easy to say election fraud and have millions of people immediately buy it.

This looks like more of the same. Why would R pundits start saying this on their networks that Ds don't actually tune into? Not to warn Ds to behave 'nicer' - we really don't care what these pundits say. So if it's not that then why?
To normalize the idea that they will have more crazies in leadership positions - when the next election the presidential, the VP candidates are all fringe lunatics - they will have by then for years been saying this stuff - oh well it's the Ds fault and now we have no choice but to elect them since they made it through the primaries because of those bad divisive Ds.

So out loud they are saying - oh noes so much bad tribalism, Ds need to cut back on it. But what they are REALLY doing is basically trying to normalize it even more than they already have so far.

kacekwl

(7,016 posts)
9. Just remember their defence, no
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:21 AM
Mar 2021

reasonable person would believe what they say or do. So it must be the reasonable folks fault their unreasonable. I just confused myself.

ms liberty

(8,573 posts)
10. So they can demonize all democrats as much as they want
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:24 AM
Mar 2021

But we need to be careful not to paint an accurate portrait of their sorry asses? Fuck that shit.

Jon King

(1,910 posts)
11. Actually the Repug party will just dwindle away...
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:25 AM
Mar 2021

Not sure what demographics they are looking at or what swing state trends or anything. The more they embrace the radical right, the less popular votes they get, the further away they get from ever winning the Presidency again.

Once again they learn the opposite lesson than they should.

Liberal In Texas

(13,548 posts)
12. This is one of the biggest piles of GQP bullshit I've seen and I've
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:32 AM
Mar 2021

seen a lot of GQP BS. Trying to blame the opposition on their march to autocracy and fascism. Why? So they can feel better about themselves not trying to stop it, to blame it on somebody else, I suppose.

Cosmocat

(14,564 posts)
13. DECADES of Cons hate framing EVERY democrat as god and country hating SOCIALISTS
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:40 AM
Mar 2021

and we elected ... Joe Biden.

It's bad enough they are tweaked out meth heads at this point, but that the media and the "middle third" of this country indulges this victimology is our greatest danger.

Roisin Ni Fiachra

(2,574 posts)
14. Republicans are universally deluded, and lacking in self-awareness.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:40 AM
Mar 2021

They can't be honest with others, because they don't know how to be honest with themselves.

Always blaming the motivations for their bad behavior on someone, or something, other than themselves. Some form of "The devil made me do it" is their go to justification for their actions when they get caught in some malfeasance.

*Personal Responsibility* my ass.

CousinIT

(9,241 posts)
17. Republicans: Even as they scorch the Earth and everyone on it to Death. THEY are the victims.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:51 AM
Mar 2021

Every time.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
18. Let me see if I have this straight ...
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:51 AM
Mar 2021

They realize they are going fascist, but can't stop themselves because Democrats are pointing it out?

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
19. If you're not willing to impeach a corrupt fascist when given 2 chances
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 08:54 AM
Mar 2021

that means you ARE a fascist.

ancianita

(36,053 posts)
20. At least she openly admits they're fascist.
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:09 AM
Mar 2021

Nice bullshit mountain they got going -- all this sanctification of white grievance -- the rules! the rules! -- and criminalizing of black activism -- as if justice for blacks is injustice for whites.

"Look what you made us do! Look out, America! Make us "political prisoners" and we're gonna double down on you!"

No one hears antifa and BLM snowflaky complaints about rules or "those people."
They exert defense only against death dealers of law enforcement and corporate control.

Tucker Carlson's lie to the courts about how the audience knows his "lies as kidding" should be challenged. His audience should be polled on how they understand him.

He claims he's TV's Mr. "I take no responsibility." "It's not my fault the audience takes seriously my fake seriousness." But he needs to be made to testify before the FCC or court over that.

All the while he knows he stirs a toxic soup that feeds into more insurrection. He presents a fomenter of the psyop of the "aggrieved abuser" -- "Look what you're gonna make me do!" Meaning 'us fascists.'

LittleGirl

(8,287 posts)
21. What color is the sky in their world?
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 09:12 AM
Mar 2021

I’m serious. That is some hyper backflips Meghan is doing.
I hope that this is the beginning of the end for McCain and the GQP. She is the biggest hypocrite of them all.
Her husband and his red hat conservatism is turning her thought processes inside out. She needs to step down and raise that (poor) daughter of hers and let the rest of her party have their come to Jesus moment. Shut her down. Just like Piers Morgan, Sharon Osborne and Jeffrey Toubin. Shame on ABC/Disney for continuing to let her spew that skewed reality to the masses.

onetexan

(13,040 posts)
25. Meghan Lindsey-Lohan-of-the-GOP needs to STFU. Her nonsensical reasonings are baloney. She is not
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 02:40 PM
Mar 2021

similar to her father.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
26. Just write it on the wall, Meghan
Sun Mar 28, 2021, 02:41 PM
Mar 2021

in blood:

"Stop me before I kill again!"

Or, she could just grow the eff up.

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