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Realm of Black MAGA roiled by infighting as foes compare Candace Owens to Rachel Dolezal (and the Fresh Prince)
By ZACHARY PETRIZZO
MARCH 28, 2021 9:00AM (UTC)
In the strange and isolated realm of MAGA-loving Black activists, at least two groups are at war with one another, and insults are flying with no end in sight. Maj Toure, founder of a right-wing group called Black Guns Matter whose legal name is Martin A. Jones and his allies are at war with better-known Black conservative activists Candace Owens and Brandon Tatum. This conflict appears to have been brewing under the surface for some time but broke into the public sphere after a panel discussion led by Toure at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) in Orlando last month.
The apparent rift between the activists centers around claims that Owens and Tatum can't relate to the African-American communities because they aim their rhetoric almost entirely at white conservatives. Furthermore, activists on Toure's team have framed their argument through a difficult-to-follow analogy drawn from the classic sitcom "Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," perhaps in an effort to ensure that white people don't know what they're talking about.
"There's not just one type of Black conservative, and I feel like that's where we have failed over the past four years; we propped up one type of Black conservative," panelist and commentator Shemeka Michelle stated at the CPAC gathering in late February. "And just because white people like them, it was like, 'Oh yeah, we love her. Oh, she has her own thinking.'
"A lot of people are familiar with The Fresh Prince of Bel-Air," Michelle continued. "Just say, Carlton [Banks] and Will [Smith] were both conservatives. Carlton could go to Bel-Air, and he could talk to the people of Bel-Air all day long, but you could not send Carlton to Philly to talk to those people. You would have had to send Will, who had the same type of life experiences that Will had. So when it comes to being conservative, stop propping up Carlton Banks thinking that Carlton is going to be the one to be able to communicate with the Wills of the conservative party."
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BumRushDaShow
(128,938 posts)Hugin
(33,140 posts)Cubic zirconia and burlap will probably have to resort to a cage fight to trend soon.
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DonViejo
(60,536 posts)I don't care if you read it; your loss.
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Tarc
(10,476 posts)Any PoCs identifying as conservatives are a delusional bunch.
They "got their's. Maybe someone shoved a flag pole up their a** and it is beginning to sink in what their fates might be like under a fascist party headed by a Trump dictator or under any GOP for that matter.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)how they see the world, how they react.
These guys are strong conservatives and naturally politically motivated, aggressively too. Like white cons, they're not exactly in sympathy with the liberalism of the Democratic Party. These're apparently apparently too disgusted and angered by it, and strong in their rejection, to even join fellow black conservatives there.
And look where that leaves them.
If minority conservatives were to flood into the Republican Party along with their "fellow" white cons, they could force huge and immediate change, make it as diverse as the liberal party. Nothing to stop them. Of course, how'd that fairy tale end, with all the hard-core bigots and hatemongers among them gathered in one big tent?
Definitely for the best that they haven't, even temporarily, but hard on people like this.
DFW
(54,372 posts)It still comes across to me like a condemned man holding a rally in support of the firing squad.
msfiddlestix
(7,281 posts)Listening to this and hearing the complete disconnect. Have it on pause at the moment. So far, I'm hearing a call for patriarchal authoritarianism underlying the actual words being spoken. The call for Individualism, that's about class privilege. Call out for Free Speech in context of Qanon conspiracy theories, using the moral obligation to call out child abuse as if it were today's Conservative party value.
So much to unpack. No time to that, but it's worth listening to if any reader is puzzled by Trump supporting Black "Conservatives".
But I just can't let stand any notion that Trump is any kind of Conservative. Trump supporters might want to change the definition for their Snake Oil road shows, but Traditional Conservatives cannot let that define them.
NickB79
(19,236 posts)Or did I just watch waaay too many reruns of that show for the last 20 yr?
SMC22307
(8,090 posts)"Activists on Toure's team" might be surprised to learn how many white people watched that sitcom.