COVID Is Going Up Again? Why Don't People Understand How This Works?

[DumpTrump20202020]

If only the same people complaining how they can't live their life would understand if we all did our part this would have been over..

Now with Spring Break, thousands will be leaving Florida to the other 49 states. Cases are up, some over 50% in just one week.

[dchill]

1. Fox News.

[Ms. Toad]

2. Yes, it would have been.

But their MO is to pretend it is over and live life, consequences be damned.

[NewHendoLib]

3. in general, there is not a whole lot of deep thinking going on out there

[Walleye]

4. The question is which side are they on? Humanity or the virus? There's no third side

[global1]

5. How Many Times Have We Done This Now?....

As soon as the numbers start looking good we let our guard down and start opening up everything. Then we wind up with a surge in numbers again.

What's the saying about doing the same thing and expecting a different result?

Why haven't we learned to be patient and continue to do the right thing getting the numbers down?

Instead we keep feeding the beast.

How many people are going to have to die before it sinks in and we learn?

And now we have to deal with anti-vaxxer's as well as anti- masker's.

[greymattermom]

6. Smart people are getting the vaccine as soon as they can.

If certain people refuse the vaccine, which Trump took, and the monoclonal antibody treatments, which Trump took, and testing, which Trump did, they will, at minimum, get huge increases in their insurance costs. Medicine is business and infectious diseases pay hospitals less than other conditions. Hospitals need the money.

[Klaralven]

7. Now that seniors are mostly vaccinated, cases among young people don't matter as much

Cases are going up, e.g. among 10 to 19 year olds who are mostly back in school. But they don't result in hospitalization, ICU crowding, and death.

The death numbers are the real numbers, since cases depends a lot on whether people are getting tested, how many are asymptomatic, etc.

So long as the medical system can cope successfully with the cases that need hospitalization, the political calculus will be that it is preferable to continue opening than to deliver another blow to the economy.

[LisaL]

9. You haven't heard about new mutant covids?

For instance, UK covid seems to be affecting younger people much more seriously than original covid.

[Klaralven]

12. I have heard of the mutants

Suppose that efficacy for vaccines is 95% and efficacy for recovered Wuhan type patients is 99%.

Now the vaccines produce antibodies against a part of the spike protein (Pfizer and Moderna) or a larger part of the virus (Janssen). On the other hand, patents recovered from Wuhan type Covid produce a wider variety of antibodies and a fuller immune system response. This is one of the ways that researchers can distinguish between the antibody response of people who have been vaccinated versus had the disease.

Therefore, it is likely that if hypothetically, the efficacy against South African is 60% for the vaccines, the efficacy of having recovered from Wuhan is higher, suppose 80%.

Consequently, herd immunity against the South African variant (or any other variant) is probably better and more quickly achieved by having a higher proportion of recovered patients.

[speak easy]

10. 'Long COVID' does not matter?

It is not just death.

[Johonny]

11. Like any war, death is easy to count, casualties are often ignored.

Young people usually survive the battle, but who knows about their future.

My grandfather survived a NYC rheumatic fever outbreak in 1890s. But make no mistake, it's effects are what killed him years later.

[speak easy]

8. COVID is going up again all over the world.

BENGALURU (Reuters) - India has reported on Monday its worst single-day increase in COVID-19 cases since October, taking the tally to more than 12 million for the first time ever.

https://www.msn.com/en-au/lifestyle/wellbeing/indias-coronavirus-cases-peak-over-12-million-for-first-time/ar-BB1f4l4q

[Klaralven]

13. Only 7.2 doses per 100 population have been administered globally

So Covid is expanding into an essentially unvaccinated population.

India in particular has 3.8% partially vaccinated and 0.7% fully vaccinated.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2021/world/covid-vaccinations-tracker.html

[womanofthehills]

14. NM is the opposite so far

Our cases are way down. My entire county (15,461 ) has been going back and fourth between zero and a few cases the past few weeks. Yesterday was 2 cases. We have been having under 200 cases a day for the whole state for the last week. Our governor was one of the first to take action - so it is has paid off. We also had more vaccines than most states. The zip code I live in has had one case in the past 2 months. Hope this continues.

[Generic Brad]

15. I saw maskless people in the grocery store today

There was a couple who looked about to be in their late 20's roaming the place like everything was A-OK. I quipped to my wife when we got back to our car that at this point in the pandemic, people who don't wear masks in public places are either incredibly stupid or maliciously evil.