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douglas9

(4,358 posts)
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 04:57 AM Mar 2021

America's Obsession With Wipes Is Tearing Up Sewer Systems

Even before the pandemic, Americans were already flushing far too many wipes into the sewer system. After a year of staying at home, the pipe-clogging problem has gotten worse.

Just ask Larry Hare, who says he immediately observed the change from his vantage point as the manager at a wastewater reclamation facility in Des Moines, Iowa.

Sewer backups are up 50%, and he attributes this to the flushing of wipes, which don’t break down in water like toilet paper. “We’ve always had the problem, but it just hasn’t been as big a problem as it is currently,” Hare said.

With consumers cleaning everything from counters to doorknobs in hopes of thwarting the coronavirus, sanitary wipes are more popular than ever. In the 12 months through late January, their sales surged 75%, according to data from Nielsen. But the blockages they create when flushed — dubbed fatbergs — have become a costly headache. The Des Moines Metropolitan Wastewater Reclamation Authority has spent more than $100,000 over the past year and deployed specialized block-clearing trucks about 30 times, according to Hare. Similar problems are plaguing cities and towns across the U.S., and they’re being forced to spend more and more on fixing the problem.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-03-26/pandemic-wipes-create-sewer-clogging-fatbergs

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America's Obsession With Wipes Is Tearing Up Sewer Systems (Original Post) douglas9 Mar 2021 OP
And "flushable wipes" are not flushable. Only flush toilet paper and what comes out of one's progree Mar 2021 #1
Some people don't give a chit Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #4
Wipes are. So is the amount of toilet paper for that matter. argyl Mar 2021 #2
I've been using a bidet for about 3 years now and could NOT go back to paper Ferrets are Cool Mar 2021 #5
Same here. piddyprints Mar 2021 #16
When our garbage disposal broke we didn't replace it. hunter Mar 2021 #20
Problem could be solved piddyprints Mar 2021 #3
Brrr! A shot of cold spray will certainly wake one up in the morning! NurseJackie Mar 2021 #10
You get used to it. piddyprints Mar 2021 #11
Toto Washlet Homoudont Mar 2021 #13
That's quite an investment. $300+ is a bit more than I can justify. NurseJackie Mar 2021 #15
The wipes aren't warm. piddyprints Mar 2021 #17
"...and they go up from there." Iggo Mar 2021 #14
i dont understand why no one has invented one that degrades. mopinko Mar 2021 #6
I have a coworker who was complaining that he's had to have the main sanitary line snaked FSogol Mar 2021 #7
Sure, the wipes maker says they're flushable. Look, you can flush them! JHB Mar 2021 #8
I'm going to play the gender card here FakeNoose Mar 2021 #9
Not this old woman. piddyprints Mar 2021 #18
Yes of course, I only meant that more users are women FakeNoose Mar 2021 #19
That happened in my condo building a few years ago. greatauntoftriplets Mar 2021 #12

progree

(10,893 posts)
1. And "flushable wipes" are not flushable. Only flush toilet paper and what comes out of one's
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:20 AM
Mar 2021

posterior. That's what they tell us in our city newsletter. And in our home owner association where they've had to have our sewer lines cleared at great expense a number of times. Why some people can't learn and follow such a simple rule, I have no idea. Interestingly (but not surprisingly) floss is one of the worst things to flush.

argyl

(3,064 posts)
2. Wipes are. So is the amount of toilet paper for that matter.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:29 AM
Mar 2021

I have been living in Bangkok for the last three years now. Hoses equipped to spray your anal area are much cleaner than smearing excess fecal matter with toilet paper.
You can simply dry off with TP and toss it into a waste can which will always be conveniently located near the commode. Matter of fact, as warm as Bangkok is, the TP isn't really necessary. Just spritz yourself clean and you'll be dry in minutes.
In colder climes, the TP may be necessary for keeping warm but not for hygienic purposes. Like the bidet the French came up with for the anal instead of vaginal canal. Many other countries use this system as well. And wipes can be thrown into the trash as easily as toilet paper.
And also, I live in an apartment in Bangkok that although far from luxurious is well equipped enough to have a garbage disposal system. I've been in apartments much more well appointed than mine that seem to manage without one of them as well.
Now that's an appliance that really puts a strain on a water reclamation plant.
I'd be interested to know the percentage of American apartments and homes that come equipped with them.
I could be totally off but I'd bet the percentage would be a lot higher than other developed countries. Seems like an apartment without a garbage disposal these days in the States is considered a downright dump.

hunter

(38,303 posts)
20. When our garbage disposal broke we didn't replace it.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 04:02 PM
Mar 2021

We removed it and installed an ordinary drain.

That was maybe fifteen years ago.

We haven't had a drain clog since.

Most everything can be composted. If not it can go in the garbage.

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
3. Problem could be solved
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:00 AM
Mar 2021

If people simply bought a bidet attachment for their toilet. The least expensive ones are about $30 and they go up from there. It pays for itself in no time.

For wiping things down, whatever happened to washcloths, hot water, and soap?

We haven’t bought wipes in decades. I can’t stand the thought of wiping those chemicals all over myself or my stuff.

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
11. You get used to it.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:17 AM
Mar 2021

My husband swore he’d never use the first bidet attachment we got. Turns out that he preferred using that bathroom because of the bidet. Now we have them in all the bathrooms and he uses them.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. That's quite an investment. $300+ is a bit more than I can justify.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:04 AM
Mar 2021

Also, just looking at the photo, it appears that the seat is tilted so far forward (ie: 3-4" higher in the back) that I'm afraid I'd tip over, or slide right off.

https:// www.costco.com/ toto-washlet-bidet-seat.product.100522422.html
(NOT SPAM: This is an on-topic link regarding part of the conversation)

piddyprints

(14,637 posts)
17. The wipes aren't warm.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 12:23 PM
Mar 2021

Sure, it would be nice to have a warm water bidet. We do fine with the cold water ones. They take a few minutes to install and don't cost much.

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
6. i dont understand why no one has invented one that degrades.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:28 AM
Mar 2021

i realize it's quite a challenge, but....

FSogol

(45,452 posts)
7. I have a coworker who was complaining that he's had to have the main sanitary line snaked
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:35 AM
Mar 2021

out 3 times in the last year.

So, I asked him, "how long have you been using flushable wipes?"

He gets angry and claims, "they're flushable, it says right on the label, flushable."

I laugh and ask him, "if they said edible, would you eat some?"

He thinks his pipes are improperly installed or the county sewer commission is fucking with him. WTF?

PS. We work for an mechanical engineering company.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
8. Sure, the wipes maker says they're flushable. Look, you can flush them!
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:42 AM
Mar 2021

There's no regulation that they can't say that.

But the pipes say different, right? And who pays for the snaking? The wipes maker? Nope! It ain't their problem!

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
9. I'm going to play the gender card here
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:51 AM
Mar 2021

I'm guessing most users of the "flushable" wipes are women, for you know, women's reasons. The message that the flushable wipes shouldn't be flushed, that needs to be packaged for women who are (my estimate) 90% of the users.

As a 70-year old woman, I have a right to express this opinion.

FakeNoose

(32,596 posts)
19. Yes of course, I only meant that more users are women
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 02:56 PM
Mar 2021

I don't use the wipes either, but I think a lot of women do. Consider the Moms who are "wiping little butts" all day. And that's just one of the reasons.

greatauntoftriplets

(175,729 posts)
12. That happened in my condo building a few years ago.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 10:26 AM
Mar 2021

The culprits were a couple who had a baby. A pipe connecting the building to the city sewer line had to be replaced. I felt badly for the plumbers (who happen to be the ones I call when necessary) who got to clean that mess out.

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