Dominion Builds Legal Behemoth to Drain Trumpland of Billions

[babylonsister]

https://www.thedailybeast.com/the-unlikely-team-hunting-team-donald-trump-in-georgia?ref=scroll


Dominion Builds Legal Behemoth to Drain Trumpland of Billions
LAWYER UP!
Dominion Voting Systems is adding a new team of lawyers as they prepare for their current lawsuits—and another potential round.
Adam Rawnsley
Lachlan Cartwright
Asawin Suebsaeng
Updated Mar. 30, 2021 9:58AM ET / Published Mar. 29, 2021 8:00PM ET


With billions of dollars in lawsuits now in the balance, Dominion Voting Systems has quietly expanded its legal armada in recent days, as the election technology company goes after Trumpworld and conservative media giants.

Clare Locke—the legal firm spearheading Dominion’s lawsuits against Rudy Giuliani, Sidney Powell and pillow magnate Mike Lindell—recently brought in seven attorneys from the Texas-based firm of Susman Godfrey, which has experience litigating against the so-called “Kraken” suits filed by one-time Trump attorneys Lin Wood and Sidney Powell.

“There are great synergies between the work that the Susman team had done on the 2020 election and the defamation cases we were pursuing for Dominion,” Tom Clare, from the notoriously aggressive law firm Clare Locke, told The Daily Beast.

“As those discussions unfolded we also discovered the two firms have a great cultural similarity in having a ready for trial approach to litigation,” he added. “I think it's going to be a very effective team.”

Dominion expanding its legal team is the latest effort to punish leading players in the months-long propaganda push to trash the company and baselessly assail the results of the 2020 U.S. presidential contest.

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Former President Trump is still facing an avalanche of separate lawsuits, probes, and criminal investigations, including ones stemming from alleged sexual assault, his family-run business empire, the bloody Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol, and his broader anti-democratic efforts in the wake of the 2020 election.

In recent months, Trump—who now no longer enjoys the legal protections that come with being president—has privately quipped that his enemies will be investigating and “suing me for the rest of my life.”

[lagomorph777]

1. I wonder whether they want to spend some of that on promoting clean elections.

Seems like a potential business alignment there.

[ret5hd]

2. Kinda touching on your comment:

I have wondered often in the recent past just how much, exactly, we (progressives, the left, Democratic Party) should align ourselves with the electronic voting machine industry.

I know that for me, the answer is 0...despite current events. Paper, pen, and hand counted in plain view are the gold standard.

[lagomorph777]

3. Yeah, there is that. I hate vapor voting - thankfully, we have always had at least the option

of paper, here in VA.

[LiberalArkie]

5. And make sure the circle or square is filled in 100% and not outside of the circle or square.

And no smudges on the ballot. Those used to be the rules. Remember Florida. The person have to make sure that all the holes were cleaning punched out, with no piece of paper left hanging (chad) and the hole was not accidentally enlarged.

And since both went through tabulators as they usually decided the election unless there was a recount called and then the county elections people had to make the hand recount match the tabulator count.

[Fiendish Thingy]

6. Well, IIRC, HR/SB 1 voting rights bill would require paper ballots for presidential elections. Nt

[Escurumbele]

9. As long as there is paper trail I am OK with it.

Voters must be given a receipt showing exactly who they voted for, with a copy to be kept by the people who manage the elections. Any disputes can be handled by reviewing those print-outs which must be a duplicate of the ballots.

[ret5hd]

10. My gawd!!!...you miss the entire concept of a secret ballot...

do you WANT employers, candidates, sheriffs, etc paying people to vote particular ways???

[SWBTATTReg]

12. IMHO, of course not, this is what the concept of secret ballots is all about, the voters' right

to privacy / to secrecy with voters' votes. If a candidate, etc. comes directly to you and ask why etc. you voted in a certain way, then the line has been crossed (how did they know that I voted in a certain way, etc., voter's votes are secret after all).

My concern is that among all of these things going on, enforcing election laws, donation caps, dark money, PACs and where the money goes (i.e., someone just asked yesterday in a DU trend this ?) where did all of the money djt raise go? Only $8 million was accounted for vs. $255 million raised by djt...

Another concern is w/ the consent decree that the GOP was under and then discontinued (the powers that be said at the time the GOP wasn't a threat at the time), why? If one looks at all of the actions, lawsuits, laws and/or bills etc. that the GOP has undertaken, passed, etc. recently (last six months roughly), there is clearly actions by the GOP that continue to warrant the consent decree that the GOP was under (and dismissed for some reason (obviously not a valid reason)).

[ret5hd]

14. A vote "receipt" is proof you voted a certain way.

Got yer receipt? Hmmm, looks good...here's a little sumthin' for you and the missus.

[SWBTATTReg]

18. I know what a receipt is. I get asked that every time when I vote in MO. Like a lot of us.

And then what do you do with that receipt?

How do you know that in fact, that your vote is in effect, among those tallied/counted/etc.?

Are you going to compare the votes of 100s, 1000s, etc. one by one to verify?

Seems rather far fetched.

The purpose of the receipt is seemingly to reassure you that in fact, the electronic voting machine simply recorded your vote as you voted.

[ret5hd]

27. And/or your boss, etc

[Politicub]

11. The Dominion machine prints out a paper ballot, which then is

fed into a scanner atop a locked container by a poll worker while you watch. They enable the ability for hand recounts because all votes are on paper. Think of them as ballot marking machines.

2020 was the first year we used the new Dominion machines. They replaced the awful Diebold black boxes. Diebold left no paper trail.

Ironically, Dominion’s accuracy was validated by the hand recount in Georgia. They’re great machines.

[pandr32]

22. Thank you for this

[joshcryer]

25. Dominion has an actual, legitimate, case for them being screwed over.

Seriously we're very likely heading toward all mail in voting and automatic registration once the new voting rights act passes (HR1). It's far far too convenient and people will come around to it very quickly. Hell, Koch funded research groups are losing their minds about HR1 because it has broad support even amongst conservatives.

What these people have done casting doubt on Dominion has destroyed their business.

After all the years of open source code, verified firmware signatures by third parties, double and triple security stuff, verified voter paper trail on all machines, all that work, down the drain.

Sure there will be polling locations with a few outdated Dominion machines, but Trump and the conservatives destroyed their business, and it can be proven.

[questionseverything]

29. The problem with the ballot marking machine is

If it doesn’t mark correctly most people wouldn’t notice

A voting rights group already did an experiment, purposely marking the ballots wrong, like 80 percent plus did not notice

The machines in Georgia are much better than the paperless machines they replaced but

Hand marked,hand counted paper ballots is the gold standard

[mountain grammy]

21. Agree..

we have 100% vote by mail in Colorado. I gotta say, it's the best system. Any state that has it, won't give it up.

[questionseverything]

30. And hand counting

Colorado is a great example for the nation

[SharonAnn]

32. A VVPB is the gold standard. A Voter Verified Paper Ballot is the gold standard.

There are several ways to do this. I worked with this issue in the early 2000's. Whether there is electronic input and tabulating doesn't matter. The paper ballot stands, whether the voter fills it out or the machine creates it for the voter to verify it. It is desirable to have an easy way for a voter to select their choices and have a paper ballot to audit against.

Then a standard approach to randomly audit the paper ballots to verify the machine count is necessary.

There are several technology approaches that can provide this ballot counting security. Two of them are:
1. The voter fills out a paper ballot and optical scanning is used to provide the automatic tabulating.
2. The voter inputs to an electronic device and it prepares the paper ballot which the voter verifies before "casting" the ballot.
And the paper ballot never leaves the precinct. It goes back to to the Election Board to available for random ballot verification.

It is different from an ATM receipt or the purchase receipt which the user takes with them. If a user takes their ballot with them there is the chance of "proving" the vote to someone which could result in "vote buying".

I have worked with computers for more than 50 years, and 30 years of that were with user oriented devices (POS - Point of Service devices), kiosks, etc. , for more than 55 years. Banking, retail stores, airline ticketing, etc. And I have worked as Election Officer for 20 years. I understand the technology issues, the audit requirements, and the Election Integrity issues.

You have to think through the "ease of voting" issues as well as the auditability issues. But it can be done.

In Hamilton County, Tennessee we fill out the paper ballot and it is optically scanned. As long as appropriate audit procedures exist I'm fine with that. In my previous county it was electronic input only and we just had to "trust" the machine count. I was uncomfortable with that.

At the previous county I had quite an argument with the Election Officer, a good friend of mine, why that electronic input only was a poor choice since it couldn't be audited properly. I explained to her that I could program the input devices to show the voter their choices, add different choices to the machine totals, and manipulate the precinct count yet another way. And I don't consider myself a very good "hacker".

But if there is a Voter Verified Paper Ballot that can always be used as verification, it solves the problem. Don't accept what the salesperson tells you. Get input from experts in systems, computers, auditing, etc. to help make the decision.

[oasis]

4. Take no prisoners!

[Comfortably_Numb]

7. And leave no dollar on the table.

[oasis]

8. Take the dollars and make 'em holler.

[DENVERPOPS]

13. Just wait

For the Dem's disappointment when all of the lawsuits hit an appellate court that has a judge appointed by RepubliCONs in the past, or most recent ly appointed by Trump/McConnell........

Or if any of the lawsuits somehow survive these lower courts and reaches the U.S. Supreme Court..................
You know, the U.S. Supreme Court that is a wholly owned subsidiary of the RepubliCON party???????

[ColinC]

15. So let me get this straight

Maga donors gave to Trump to stop the evil dominion and reverse the election results. But if Dominion is successful, a huge amount of those donations will be going back to Dominion. Dominion will be thanking magats for their generous contributions.

[Grins]

16. "...the notoriously aggressive law firm Clare Locke"

Bwahahahaha!

Has a nice sound to it, no?

[Tracer]

17. Obviously, Powell, Giuliani and Lindell don't have a billion dollars

hiding in their underwear drawer.

So -- seriously -- what is the end game for collecting monies from them if the courts determine for Dominion?

Take every cent from their bank accounts? Forced sales of their business or homes?
Look under the couch cushions?

[joshcryer]

26. Doesn't matter, this is like Gawker.

Gawker went down because Hulk Hogan sued them into oblivion for leaking his sex tape. This kind of lawsuit, with legitimate complaints, will drain the hell out of their pocket books.

[BobTheSubgenius]

19. They are CLEARLY not doing this for theater.

I think one could be forgiven for thinking that at the beginning, but they are obviously out for blood. I hope they get it, in copious amounts.

[pandr32]

23. +1

[certainot]

20. they need to go after the radio blowhards, esp limbaugh. the giuliani/pow press conf was timed to

start at the beginning of the llimbaugh show and it sounded like he already had the script because he talked through the whole thing echoing them

he attacked the employees too, maybe more, and reached a much bigger audience

[LiberalLovinLug]

24. I wish they WOULD level Trumpland. But where is Trump's name?

Why don't they also sue Donald #$%#ing Trump? He not only was the initiator of the Big Lie, he has never taken that back.

I first thought he was smart enough to not ever mention their name, and just spew generalities about voting machines, but I found this statement on Politifact.

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/nov/12/donald-trump/trumps-tweet-about-27-million-deleted-votes-basele/

"Dominion deleted 2.7 million Trump votes nationwide," the president said in his tweet, quoting the OANN report. "Data analysis finds 221,000 Pennsylvania votes switched from President Trump to Biden. 941,000 Trump votes deleted. States using Dominion Voting Systems switched 435,000 votes from Trump to Biden."

I want to see the Orange Traitor sued too! I wonder why they haven't.

[central scrutinizer]

28. Remember how we at DU feared and hated Diebold?

Isn’t Diebold now absorbed into Dominion? It’s great if they can bankrupt Drumpf, Inc. but I don’t want them involved in our elections except in counting paper mail in ballots.

[Firestorm49]

31. Live by the sword, die by the sword.