I think the prosecutor in the Chauvin case just destroyed the defense's entire questioning

[Siwsan]

of the witness who is a MMA fighter. The defense tried to tie in the MMA fighting situations to what was done to George Floyd. As in does someone you've subdued ever come back up to fight, when you let the pressure off from a 'hold'. Obviously he was trying to say Chauvin couldn't risk letting up on Mr. Floyd. The witness said yes.

On re-direct, the prosecutor asked if anyone involved in MMA ever has their hands handcuffed behind their back. Or, is it ever a 3 to 1 situation in a match. Of course, the answer was No.

Boom.

[LAS14]

1. Sterling! nt

[Marcuse]

2. A Perry Mason moment.

[onecaliberal]

3. Yup that's what I said. He blew it to smithereens in two questions.

[Lucinda]

4. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

[LakeArenal]

5. Also said that MMA can tap out when it gets dangerous.

No tap out for George.

[DENVERPOPS]

6. Get ready folks

It doesn't matter which way this trial goes people, Guilty or Not Guilty, the minute the decision is announced, all hell is going to break loose across this nation.

Every single day, we are tiptoeing on a razor's edge, near a graveyard and whistling................

[CaptainTruth]

7. I will celebrate if Chauvin is convicted.

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But I also know the conviction will be appealed & it will be a year or more before we have a final verdict.

If Chauvin is acquitted? It will just confirm to me that cops can murder with impunity. And yes I believe you're right, there will be protests larger than the George Floyd protests. (Right after he was murdered.)

[DENVERPOPS]

10. Huge protests

across the entire United States...........

I bet Putin stays up way into the night watching U.S. News, and gloating over the fact that HE personally made it so that Trump could be appointed and carry out Putin's orders of trashing the U.S. and it's democracy........

[KS Toronado]

8. Believe you're correct......

Be just like after the OJ Simpson verdict was announced, lot of people cheering, lot of people mad as hell.

[Ilsa]

9. I caught that as well. The defense spent a LONG time

setting up this 'MMA fighters start fighting when they regain consciousness, so the popo had to stay on his neck' BS defense. Prosecutor destroyed it with a simple question.

[Claire Oh Nette]

22. I'm sorry

Did I miss where Mixed Martial Arts entertainment was hired by Minneapolis PD to deliver professional development? WHen did MMA start providing training for any cops?

This was not an MMA match televised for anyone's entertainment. Start there.

Handcuffed.

Chavin knew Floyd, and wanted to show him who was boss.
Petty, bully boy move. Chauvin killed a man. In front of a live audience. On tape.

Murder. He deliberately took Floyd's life. For his ego.

[Ilsa]

24. I know. It was a weird, distracting line of questioning,

including Williams talking about defense training for cops, which I think Williams said he wouldn't do.

I guess the Defense was trying to get jury to see that some cops get "non-lethal" defense training. It might have been the start of the Defense trying to justify that cops were worried about crowd control because a MMA, etc fighter was amongst the crowd, though I don't see how they'd know that at the time.

Honestly, I can't see how the defense can get Chauvin off. I wonder if the defense attys even believe Chauvin and won't mind losing.

[Claire Oh Nette]

25. MMA??? It's distraction

The cops were not worried about crowd control.
One cop stood facing the crowd of a dozen. One.
Three cops were busy shielding Floyd's body from view. IF they were truly concerned about the crowd, wouldn't all three cops be standing between them and Floyd?

Nope.

Testimony from a police trainer would be more useful. MMA is entertainment. With rules and referees. It's a game, a contest.

This is not a contest. No one received any MMA training. They received police training. Is blood choke a part of standard police training? Where? Show me.

Floyd was already handcuffed and in the back of the police cruiser when Chauvin took him out and put him on the ground. Please show us where that is in the training handbook.

Because four minutes was not enough time to subdue a grown man who was crying for his mother. He needed 9 and ahalf.

[Ilsa]

27. That's what I'm saying: Defense is

using bogus distraction to attempt to muddy testimony. Problem is, if any other present cop testifies, they will be lying if he says he's worried about crowd control.

One of the witnesses on the video calls out chauvin about using a jujitsu hold on him.

[Claire Oh Nette]

28. Setting up an appeal is my guess

It seems like a seed for appealing the ruling they know is coming: guilty.


Floyd was handcuffed with hands behind his back. How does CHauvin explain that?

[WinstonSmith4740]

11. Pretty much was thinking the same thing.

Couldn't quite figure out what he was doing, because none of the questions seems to make sense. When I realized where he was going, I thought, "Shit, I've never spent a day in law school, and I could blow this argument out of the water." Obviously, the prosecution team paid attention in law school.

[bottomofthehill]

12. How about

In an mma fight, are you ever allowed to keep a cloak hold on someone for 9 minutes

[Collimator]

13. Read on some other site that Tucker Carson says the Left is "rubbing George Floyd's death

in their faces"

My first thought: Nah, man, we're just kneeling on your neck a little.

[JohnnyRingo]

20. Good one.

But this whole episode is one giant turd for the privileged whites like Tucker and he deserves his nose rubbed in it.

[ProfessorGAC]

21. OK!

So, we're rubbing it in their faces. He fails to point out any downside!

[Claire Oh Nette]

23. Oh, let's play.

In Tucker's analogy:

They are rubbing it in our faces.

They are rubbing our own shit in our face because we shit where we weren't supposed to? The conservatives are the dumb dog in this analogy?

Yes, Chauvin misbehaved. Yes, we are shoving the consequences of his actions (the giant shit he took on Floyd and all people of color) right in his face.

He killed a man. We are pointing at the murder and saying, You killed a man.

Seems Carlson and those of his ilk do not understand the basic sequence of cause and effect.

Yes. The racist law enforcement officers who rely on the Blue Line of Silence are criminals in uniform. We see your crimes. We hold you to the same standards, no higher standards, because we trusted you with immense power. YOu have demonstrated you are not mature enough to be trusted with that responsibility.

Yes. We are calling you out on your racism, your support of racism, and your willful ignorance.

So, Tucker, are you the dog who shits everywhere? or just a steaming pile of dogshit?

[johnthewoodworker]

14. Republican/Nazis cannot have prosecutors asking real questions. Then we see their Nazi hatred.

[panfluteman]

15. Who Do You Know Who Can Hold Their Breath for Nine and a Half Minutes?

I rest my case.

[JohnnyRingo]

17. I know! I know!

Houdini
But then he would have been out of those handcuffs and gone in a puff of smoke, so it probably doesn't help here.

[euphorb]

16. For those of us who are not watching, but are interested, what does MMA mean?

[JohnnyRingo]

18. Mixed Martial Arts.

Combo of a lot of fighting techniques.

[geardaddy]

19. Mixed martial arts. n/t

[Withywindle]

26. I don't know anything about MMA but

I believe the goal is not to kill your opponent, and if someone died in a match that would be considered a VERY BAD thing.

What a stupid line of argument on the surface, and the deeper you dig, the dumber it gets.

[joshcryer]

29. In professional MMA if you don't tap out...

...you can and will be rendered unconscious and bones can and will be broken. Has happened multiple times. And there have been deaths. One every couple of years since MMA went professional (7 deaths since 2007).

But in general the sport is meant to come as close as you can without killing your opponent.

I think his testimony was so powerful because even in MMA, jujitsu, you wouldn't submit your opponent like that. Someone is going to pull you off. Someone will intervene. But no one was allowed to in this event.