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Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:17 PM Mar 2021

Doesn't "Julio" know that as soon as you raise your voice

you've lost the argument?

And the shouting and over talking screams desperation.

(Frequent guest on Thom Hartmann's radio program.)


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Doesn't "Julio" know that as soon as you raise your voice (Original Post) Peregrine Took Mar 2021 OP
What does this mean? phylny Mar 2021 #1
? bluecollar2 Mar 2021 #2
What? Who is "Julio?" MineralMan Mar 2021 #3
They're broadcasting from down by the schoolyard? gratuitous Mar 2021 #7
You win. murielm99 Mar 2021 #9
Next, they'll interview "me." MineralMan Mar 2021 #11
You gonna be on the cover of Newsweek? gratuitous Mar 2021 #12
I'm guessing in the house of detention. MineralMan Mar 2021 #14
I think it's that guy down by the school yard. Yavin4 Mar 2021 #8
But why is Julio yelling? MineralMan Mar 2021 #10
Huh? Treefrog Mar 2021 #4
Who is Julio? What's this about? Ocelot II Mar 2021 #5
I can't stand to listen to Thom's show when he is on. Liberal In Texas Mar 2021 #6
If Julio is a conservative, then no. He does not know that. Caliman73 Mar 2021 #13

MineralMan

(151,259 posts)
11. Next, they'll interview "me."
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:52 PM
Mar 2021

I ain't sayin' nuthin! That Rosie, callin' the cops and all that...

Liberal In Texas

(16,269 posts)
6. I can't stand to listen to Thom's show when he is on.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 01:44 PM
Mar 2021

Tune it out or do something else when he has this guy as a guest.

Just typical deluded cultist spouting RW talking points.

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
13. If Julio is a conservative, then no. He does not know that.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 02:04 PM
Mar 2021

Take a peek at any conservative radio, web, or television show. Look at what happens when they have a guest who doesn't allow them to spew their stupid talking points. Invariably, the voice gets louder, the guest's mic gets lowered or cut off, or the host starts gish galloping, whatabouting, or any number of other tactics. That, to conservatives, is "winning" the argument.

We liberals tend to think that winning an argument is about showing that you have the best argument, but that is not how right wingers perceive the situation. Conservatives argue in bad faith and their tactics are performative, not substantive. They "own the libs" by shouting, taunting, and throwing out the tactics I mentioned above. Their audience is typically about the performance rather than the substance of the argument.

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