Firefighter's testimony should destroy Chauvin's defense.

[LiberalFighter]

She identified herself as a firefighter EMT and they told her to get back.

[IcyPeas]

1. she is another great, experienced witness.

don't know how the defense can ruin her credibility. but they will try.

[dem4decades]

2. She asked them if they wanted her to walk them through ways to save Floyd's life.

They refused.

[SoCalDavidS]

3. The Other Officer, Tau?, Enabled The Murder Of Mr. Floyd

She is crying on the stand about how she wanted to help check George's condition, but was prevented from doing so.

It's like everyone testifying is crying on the stand.

[sheshe2]

12. Yes they are and it's breaking my heart.

[Ocelot II]

4. She seems very upset, testified about how she couldn't get the cops

to let her help Floyd though she kept trying. Pretty damning.

[mobeau69]

5. They refused to let her check Floyd's condition.

Devastating testimony.

[Budi]

6. After only 2 days, Chauvin literally has no defense left.

The video, the testimony, the EMT.

As for the cops that stood there preventing any assistance to save Floyd's life, they are all equally culpable

[sheshe2]

17. Whoa, look at Derek he is wring his hands over and over.

The camera kept panning to him.

[Budi]

26. And this defense atty is getting nowhere with the EMT.

Guess he doesn't have a lot to work with.
He's trying to lead the witness. She's not having it tho. 👍

Glad the camera focused on the hand wringing.

[qazplm135]

47. The defense is likely to be a couple of things

1. That Floyd was a danger and the cops were scared of him.
2. That Chauvin wasn't departing from police procedure
3. Even if you don't believe 1 and 2, that the proximate cause of Floyd's death was drugs, not the knee on his neck.

I'm not carrying water for any of those defense's, just listing what I would expect to see.

[Budi]

49. Agree completely. That is the job of the defense, like it or not.

Create doubt, question memory or credibility of witnesses, & all they need is that ONE Juror.
And that's who the defense is directing this case towards.
Just one juror.

[BobTheSubgenius]

57. As if he had a defense to begin with.

The "exculpatory" testimony would annoy me no end, if I was a juror. I'd feel that the defence is taking the jury for idiots. "I was so afraid, I completely forgot I was kneeling on a man's neck."

It would be insulting to the intelligence of a parakeet.

[msfiddlestix]

67. yeah, I can't figure out why charges aren't being held on them as well.

I'm a bit behind on the details of the prosecutions. On my walk with my neighbor, he said because the other officers were in "training".


That's a pretty effed up training session.

[dem4decades]

7. She is a wonderful person. If after her testimony Chauvin walks, that place is going to burn.

And maybe rightly so.

[Budi]

13. Then burn it must.

As you watch Chauvin, knee on Floyd's neck, his hand in his pocket putting extra force on his knee, there is just no possible reason to find him not guilty or any lesser crime than what's being presented.

He knew what he was doing & got the result he intended.
He killed Floyd in broad daylight, & protected from any interferance, by the badge.

[dem4decades]

32. Did Floyd and Chauvin previously work together?

[Budi]

38. Think they may have or crossed paths since Floyd was a security guard.

I don't know the whole story but do recall there was some familiarity between the two.

Would have to research that part, but its an interesting point if Chauvin knew the man he murdered.

[Irish_Dem]

43. Yes they knew each other, and I wondered if there was some previous issue between the two of them.

Chauvin seemed immediately hellbent on murdering Floyd in cold blood. In such a way he thought he could get away with.
Chauvin refused to listen to his peers and just kept increasing the pressure on Floyd's neck.

I would think good detectives could find out what Chauvin's motivation for killing Floyd might be in light
of the fact they worked previously in the same place.

Could show some pre-meditation perhaps and establish the basis for a 1st degree murder charge.

[Budi]

45. His focus was hellbent on killing Floyd

The premeditation is interesting.
Plus Chauvin is just the asshole to fulfill a grudge if given the opportunity.

[Irish_Dem]

48. Yes exactly my thoughts too.

So many possible scenarios: If the girls liked Floyd, and they rejected Chauvin.
Or Chauvin got too rough with the customers and Floyd told him to back off.

Chauvin would be the kind of guy to hold a grudge and even the score in his mind, yes just as you say.

Of course it is possible that there was no back story, no pre-meditation and Chauvin thought murdering a POC was a way to show off to new cops.

Anyway we slice it, Chauvin deserves a life sentence in my book.

[soldierant]

61. Yes, they had worked together, and yes, there was a previous issue beyween them.

IIRC, both were bouncers at the same bar at the same time., but don't quote me on that.

Also, I don't know what the issue was, but if I had to guess, I''d say Chauvin did something horribly unprofessional and Floyd called him out.

Being (rightly) corrected by someone he (mistakenly) considered inferior would be just the kind of incident that would turn this petty little jerk into a murderer.

[Irish_Dem]

62. Yes these are my thoughts as well.

Women or power issues.
I can see Chauvin getting too rough with customers and Floyd telling him to chill.
Or the girls flirting with Floyd and not Chauvin.

I know it is speculation, but this is what detectives do when searching for motivations.

This murder is not like the usual shoot and kill police murder.

[Irish_Dem]

42. Yes I had read they worked together when Chavin was doing off duty security.

[wnylib]

44. The cocky, arrogant expression and

body language of Chauvin were so awful that I got nauseous and shuddered when I saw the video, thinking of the poor man being slowly and deliberately murdered. I only saw the video once and cannot get the image out of my mind.

I assume that Chauvin's background was checked for possible connections to hate groups. I'm surprised that no one has turned up associations with one of them.

I can't imagine ANY defense that would hold up against the video and the witnesses.

[Irish_Dem]

51. At the time, there was video of Chavin getting out of his squad car and snapping on his gloves.

As he arrived on the Floyd scene.

Chauvin had that cocky, arrogant expression and walk even as he was getting out of the squad car.
It gave me the creeps. I have not gotten that out of my mind. So from the beginning he was loaded for bear.

[wnylib]

55. I didn't see that video of Chauvin arriving,

but can easily imagine it from what I did see.

[Irish_Dem]

56. I can still see him snapping on his gloves with a look of bravado.

Like the man is here now. I will take over.

[wnylib]

68. Disgusting

[Politicub]

58. Chauvin is a monster. He was enjoying what he was doing.

His calmness in the video chilled me to the bone.

[wnylib]

69. Yes, it was obvious that he was enjoying every moment.

Only a person who is a murderer at heart takes such pleasure in ending a human life.

[robertpaulsen]

36. That place? I think the whole nation, if not the world.

If Chauvin walks, there is no justice.

[Irish_Dem]

54. I think the world will react.

It means that the police can commit cold blooded murder with no consequences.

[ecstatic]

66. yep! Rightly so.

I mean, come on? A 9 minute murder caught on tape and the guy walks? How long should anyone be expected to take this shit?

[Beachnutt]

8. I wish they would ask why the emt was called on a healthy man and

why were they sitting on him in the street ?

[lostnfound]

20. She just happened to be walking by, if you're referring to the witness. Nt

[joshcryer]

9. This is the most devestating witness testimony I've ever seen.

It's done.

[lisa58]

10. I'm crying watching this testimony...

She’s so honest. Just wondered what cross examination might be - where would you go with this?

[joshcryer]

15. The only thing he can do is question her memory.

But she is just so nice and sweet and careful with her words even that would backfire immensely.

[lisa58]

18. Absolutely, because the jurors are people...

and she is very authentic - and she has a video!!!

[Vinca]

11. I can't imagine what kind of defense they can have after this.

She identified herself and made an offer of help and was totally blown off.

[joshcryer]

25. Oh my god, he asked her if she would be bothered by yelling...

...at her how to do her job and she straight up said "no." She would do her job.

[mcar]

30. Sure does a number on the defense contention

that the poor snowflake cops were too upset and distracted by the crowd that they lost track of the fact that they were murdering a man.

[LiberalFighter]

31. If they weren't trying to commit murder they wouldn't had worried about the crowd.

[joshcryer]

34. Exactly.

If they were doing their job properly the crowd would also be on their side. Like they would firefighters trying to put out a fire.

[AnotherMother4Peace]

14. Her testimony had me in tears - she saw he was dying, she told the officers

that he was dying, she asked to help, she asked to help direct the officers to do medical assist. She wanted to call an ambulance & fire, she wanted to get an automated external defibrillator (AED) from a local gas station. She was so concerned & so frustrated. She had me in tears. George Floyd was murdered.

[Beringia]

16. Thank goodness a real EMT witnessed the murder too

She even described it as seeing man being killed.

[joshcryer]

19. "There was a man being killed..." No objection.

Because the lawyer knows if he objected to that, it would have been sustained. This is the words the prosecution wanted to be stated on the record.

"There was a man being killed..." is now on the record from with expert testimony.

[NJCher]

21. there are many good people

and they knew what was going on was wrong. They say that. One even "sensed" it before he saw it. They tried to stop it. The police, however, would have nothing of it.

The wrestler, the children, the EMT. I imagine there will be more.

Sickening.

[joshcryer]

29. If one looks at that video...

...and doesn't come away with an awful sense of dread, sympathy for Floyd, empathy for the people calling for them to get off of him, they're probably not a good person.

[SharonClark]

22. Defense is trying to say that she had no business

offering her services. Such disingenuous questioning. “What would you do if twenty people starting yelling at you when you were fighting a fire?”

[Irish_Dem]

52. Right. What would you do if you saw one man murdering another?

Stand by and do nothing?

[lostnfound]

23. Fundamental decency of the witnesses is a stark contrast to the police

Not only the monster chauvin but the other cops who abetted or let it happen.

The witnesses have all been regretful that they didn’t do something to stop it — even the one who was only 17 at the time.

And here is this young woman who educated herself to be able to save lives, who deals with 1 to 5 pulse less people in a typical 24-hour shift, who clearly cares about her fellow human beings — standing in bright contrast to the disgusting murderers who intentionally snuffed the life out of a man and refused to allow her to help save him.

[nolabear]

24. This woman is FIERCE! She won't let him lead her.

“I’m confident. I know my job. I wouldn’t be deterred.”

She’s magnificent.

[mcar]

27. She is terrific

Also said that Tau (sp) that "if" she was an EMT, she would know better than to offer help.

[SharonClark]

28. Now defense is saying she should have assumed

the police had called the medics because they did show up.

She just said she didn’t believe the times the defense said the medics were called.

She’s smarter than the defense and knows her stuff.

[ProfessorGAC]

33. And, Perhaps Most Importantly...

...Mr. Floyd is dead.
So, it's not a matter of opinion that the situation was grave from her trained POV.
She was correct!

[Joinfortmill]

35. Testimony is devastating.

[demtenjeep]

37. Damn she just said they had just killed someone

she is great

[LiberalFighter]

39. I think it was the second time. First time during prosecutor's time.

[joshcryer]

40. This time it was objected and sustained.

[Cozmo]

41. She's great, Love her, but she just pissed off the judge

Hope he doesn't try to get her in trouble

[Politicub]

59. Hope who doesn't try to get her in trouble? The judge?

Bizarre comment. What do you even mean?

[IcyPeas]

46. how come the witnesses don't review their transcripts?

the firefighter said she didn't read it because she didn't want to. The other day the lady who worked at the Speedway didn't read her transcript either.

If I was a witness I would think I would want to re-read my transcript.

[rgbecker]

72. Those transcripts are viper pits.

Recalling what you saw three days after the event, then watch a few videos that show you completely got it wrong. Example: She said she thought she saw four cops sitting on Floyd, then of course saw that there were only 3. Did anyone allow her to correct the transcript? Did they show her the videos before she made the statements? Then she has to take weird questions about whether she remembers making the statement: Yes or No? Then, "Here read this...does this jog your memory". If she answers yes, she remembers making the statement, the jury is supposed to think she meant, yes there were 4 cops on Floyd?

Pretty crappy, if you ask me. If the trial is to determine the facts, this ain't the way to do it.

[brettdale]

50. It was fuckin perfection

She can be so proud of herself.

[Budi]

53. + a million

She can hold her head high for telling what she knew was being done to Floyd & tried to intervene.
Her job is to save a life.
She was stopped.
Floyd died & she is pissed.

She is righteous

[Martin68]

60. "Stand back, lady. Let professional killers handle this job."

[Oldem]

63. It was very damning that Off. Thao told her that if she was a firefighter

she'd know to keep out of it. This is backwards. He was saying, "You should know how this works. We get to kill black men." He should have said, "Come on over and check his vitals. We'd welcome your help" If Thao is called, prosecutors should ask him about that.

[Beringia]

65. I wonder if Officer Thao will testify, considering he will be a defendant in August

I don't know how trials work, but I would think they wouldn't want Officer Thao to testify until it is his trial.

https://www.bemidjipioneer.com/news/crime-and-courts/6878198-3-co-defendants-on-state-witness-list-in-trial-of-ex-cop-charged-with-killing-George-Floyd

[Oldem]

71. I don't know about that, either. But convicted felons testify regularly. If he's called

he can always take the 5th. My hunch is that he wouldn't, since these guys think they were right.

Either way, whether he testifies in this trial or during his own trial, this testimony will be (should be) damning.

[twodogsbarking]

64. Remember what it took to just bring this to trial.

Protests, riots, etc. Something damn bad with that.

[Raine]

70. I started tearing up just seeing how it effected her. nt