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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI want to hear from the over 10,000 post people....
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I mean it....what do all of you think....I'm getting pretty sick and tired of all the low post folks....come on over 10,000 people, tell us what YOU think about this whole 2012 election. Please.
zbdent
(35,392 posts)if you were over the 10000 post mark ....
begin_within
(21,551 posts)And of course the 2004 was a very sad, dark time, the 2008 joyous, and of course this one very nerve-wracking.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)And lost my account when I switched emails and forgot my password.
Ah, well. Everything old is new again!
Horse with no Name
(34,239 posts)That is where I earned my post count,lol
Nye Bevan
(25,406 posts)Oilwellian
(12,647 posts)Turborama
(22,109 posts)samplegirl
(13,984 posts)Not much of a poster but spent tons of my time working for my party phone banking, canvassing and petitions.
I read here daily.....so have always been up on issues ect.
JSK
(1,128 posts)And this is a stupid one. Man, has this place changed since there were less than 5,000 members.
Indpndnt
(2,391 posts)Okey-doke! [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img]
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Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)for what I think you actually meant to say.
lumpy
(13,704 posts)n
Sekhmets Daughter
(7,515 posts)Aerows
(39,961 posts)You first
quinnox
(20,600 posts)shraby
(21,946 posts)Capn Sunshine
(14,378 posts)here since 2001. Not much is postworthy these days.
faith woos science
(66 posts)Robyn66
(1,675 posts)There are some real dicks here but the vast majority are awesome!!!!
faith woos science
(66 posts)been lurking since 2004
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)flamingdem
(40,891 posts)They are sneaky. There are surely many sleeper trollz who come out just for the Presidential elections. They might even have a substantial post count. They like polls.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)This is the tip of the iceberg. The more they worry, or gawd forbid smell blood, they show up in swarms.
Honestly, I don't think most posters realized before how prevalent they were thanks to the mods. Now they're everywhere, and they're breeding like roaches.
flamingdem
(40,891 posts)I remember them from 2008. It's not that hard to step on their toes and get them upset. Then poof, they're gone!
One type defends itself rigorously the other type never checks much for responses probably because they have to go elsewhere according to the script that is directing them.
Some are doing it for fun or heartfelt ideology, those are the ones who can really waste our time!
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)It was my first primary as a member. I lost friends. Some I still miss.
Back to the election, though. I was seasoned by then. I could smell the basic troll as 5 paces. They still managed to raise a stink here though. But the mods were amazing with their nukes. How does any one fall for their crap? That's what I don't get. They're so transparent.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)during the Kerry - Bush campaign and election who outed themselves as Bush supporters after the election. It was brutal.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)That one shook some people's trees here. Having been new, I wasn't too surprised. I only knew them by their jerk postings leading up to the election. Afterward I read back a bit and saw how folks were fooled. Kind of. There were so many more, too. Those were wild times! I forgave everyone who thought I was a troll at first after that.
There really are some weird people on the net.
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Indeed!
I am getting disgusted with the notion that low post DUers are being covered with the troll blanket.
Engage, people, engage! Use our wits so that we don't discourage passionate Democrats. If they bought the meme of the MSM, then enlighten don't insult.
Lone_Star_Dem
(28,158 posts)I was tested. Boy how I was tested! I learned so much here then. And i never was a gloom and doom poster. I wanted facts, knowledge and to be around like minded people. Those are still the things I look for in new DUers today.
BTW, I found what I was looking for after my trial by fire here. This place has taught me how to argue effectively with the ever growing population of Teabaggers I'm exposed to. I can't repay that debt.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Be kind to new posters, don't assume ill-will where low information is more likely to blame, and assume that most newcomers arrive with the typical packet of M$M crapola--"Both sides do it," "Ryan is a wonk," "Our biggest problem is the deficit," etc., and need to be gently led out of their cocoons of misinformation & misconception.
Personally, in almost all cases, I think it's important to distinguish between the poster and the misinformation. It's possible to correct the latter without emotionally mangling the former.
We've seen a lot of people come on board rather naive and evolve sophistication over time. That is a wonderful process, and one we need to promote. It doesn't happen if you drive people off in their first 50 posts, some of which are very likely to be ill-informed.
bemildred
(90,061 posts)leveymg
(36,418 posts)
Tikki
(15,140 posts)I am sure they think it's like a little game. It is not and YES people
die from lack of health insurance, they know it but they are humans who
don't care about other humans...
Sad really..and pathetic, but they think they are brave somehow sticking it to others...
They are just cowards, really...
Tikki
mike_c
(37,051 posts)...and DU has changed somewhat, but I suppose that's expected. I remember spirited discussion about Al Gore's shortcomings as a candidate-- in retrospect, of course. Similarly, there didn't seem to be as many attempts to enforce lockstep unity during John Kerry's campaign, although many good DUers left during the primary in 2004. Nonetheless, I felt quite comfortable having open debates about Kerry's negatives. I didn't support either Clinton or Obama in 2008, although like many here I was moved to tears by Obama's election. I still don't support his reelection, however-- I'm way to the left of today's democratic party-- but I have not felt at all comfortable discussing the reasons for my stance on DU this time around, so I don't. I read DU much more than I post, these days.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)grows by all agreeing every single thing Obama/Biden does. I wish there was a separate forum for "wide open" discussion of anything without any personal recriminations
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Trollhaugen.
nebenaube
(3,496 posts)I think they've figured out a way to highjack accounts and they want to figure out which accounts to use to do the most damage.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)Was rauchst du?
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)Xipe Totec
(44,558 posts)It really gets freaky during election season. Lots of interest from new folks, some genuine, some intruders, some really hyper, some laid back.
In the end, some will like it and stick around for the long haul, the intruders will get ejected, and some people will find the tension too great and move on.
Tribetime
(7,145 posts)Liberalynn
(7,549 posts)cause during the Dumbya thing I felt the whole world had gone nuts and wanted to be around like minded people to save my sanity. Couldn't believe people could have voted for such a moron once let alone twice. I truly believe Dumbya and the Pukes stole the elections against Gore and Kerry.
I don't post everyday but I read almost every day and comment when I feel moved to. Also were our post counts from the old board carried forward ? For some reason I think mine seems low and I didn't change names. Could just be remembering wrong though. Man since I hit 50 my former photographic memory has just flashed out.
I have to believe Obama will win because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.
porphyrian
(18,530 posts)Romney's campaign is so dead, it appears last on the Mayan calendar.
Liberal_in_LA
(44,397 posts)early voting before election day, in Ohio, when African Americans vote.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Barack_America
(28,876 posts)As for the DU experience, this election has been better than 2004 and 2008. 2004 sucked for obvious reasons and the primary season of 2008 was brutal around here.
Unknown Beatle
(2,691 posts)I have been online for years and have posted on countless sites, easily well over 50,000 posts, but because I'm new here, my opinions don't count? Wow! Just wow!
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)Welcome to DU from one 10,000+ member who welcomes new voices to DU.
Le Taz Hot
(22,271 posts)Unless one is a PROVEN troll, your opinions most definitely do count. Welcome to DU.
DisabledAmerican
(452 posts)Threads are many if you do not like their thread you can make one with a low reply count thread. Honestly it's not a big deal. They just want to talk thinking a long term count matters. People can do rapid post and be here less, but have more post. It's honestly no big deal. As long as there is no harmful things being posted about Dems I see no harm in it. Let them have their discussion and be respectful we newer members can just as easy start our own so no worries. The better person is the one who doesn't let it get to them just part of the web sometimes they will never accept you no matter how many post you have or how long you've been there it's just part of the internet social media. It's life! Like High School people pick which table they want to sit at.
snooper2
(30,151 posts)It's the fucking intertubes after all LOL...
Now if you're posting a youtube video on the proper way to troubleshoot the ECM on a 2004 Ford Focus, you may get some RESPECT
ncgrits
(916 posts)Welcome from a longtime low-posting lurker.
DisabledAmerican
(452 posts)Unknown Beatle
(2,691 posts)To all.
Yeah, I kinda took it personally. Not because I don't have 10,000 posts, but because it sounded kinda elitist to ask people with thousands of posts their opinion and posters under that are not welcome. I was wrong, let people be people and let them do their thing regardless of what I think.
C'est la Vie.
DisgustipatedinCA
(12,530 posts)Welcome anyway. Glad to have you.
theinquisitivechad
(322 posts)But you can tell from my posts whose side I'm on
Luminous Animal
(27,310 posts)A ridiculous 18 month exhausting exercise in vapidness.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)The President's campaign has invested tens of millions into the most massive get out the vote operation in history.
The polls, even the good ones, have to base their projections based on discounting the number of registered voters who are not going to vote. There is simply no way for them to guage a new pattern if a new model of GOTV is used. The higher the number of those voting the greater the margin of victory.
In the last 5 general elections the Democratic Party has won the popular vote 4 times. The only time that the popular vote was not in the Democrats favor was in 2004, in the middle of a hot war, and the American people have never changed Presidents in the middle of a hot war.
There is a conservative nature to the American people in that they prefer what they know than making an abrupt change without an overwhelming reason. In the end there will be a lot of middle of the road people who will simply vote for the incumbent rather than a challenger.
Finally the electoral college is a big advantage for us. The President has done an excellent job of spreading the battle lines so that they will have to spread their resources. In the last two weeks no one will be watching the ads and after the debates they will be watching a charismatic young President making the closing arguments before huge crowds. Gerald Ford came back from 30 points down and lost by a few points because while the American people may think that they don't like the incumbent they actually will root for the guy fighting for his job.
Then there is this. You cannot win the Presidency by being against something you actually have to be for something. Romney has no vision, no case and in the end no hope to win.
Coyotl
(15,262 posts)over 400 if we start a new war in time
CaliforniaPeggy
(156,619 posts)MIRT has its hands full getting rid of the bad ones, and the rest contribute.
Not to worry!
We will get through this.
Speck Tater
(10,618 posts)The problem is low-post people who spout nothing but right-wing talking points.
bluestate10
(10,942 posts)I care more about whether the person is a true democrat.
JI7
(93,616 posts)and we must call them out.
but we do have a lot of good new posters with low post counts and they have been great.
proud2BlibKansan
(96,793 posts)GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)mecherosegarden
(745 posts)and I seen how hard some people is toward those who lack writing's skills. But, I donate here, I donate to the Obama campaign , even though I am just a Psy D. intern, with not pay here in California. I love my president! Sometimes I don't agree with some of the post here , but I respect everyone's opinion. And with all due respect, how can one reach those " 10,000" post without one being called first a troll by some DU members or disrespected in some ways ?
patrice
(47,992 posts)the linked article is a good way to increase your post count, because people will see the article and engage you in discussion about it.
Also, posting brief replies to what others post, or to their replies, is another way to increase your post count fast. Your brief replies could be things like "Agree" or some people post "Kick!" or "K&R" (which stands for Kick & Recommend) in order to add more replies to a Thread so that the system will make it rise to the top of the Latest Threads feed again.
Another good way to add to your post count is to ask questions. That could be questions about anything you don't understand or it could be questions about issues related to a post, issues that add information or add perspective.
Another way to add to your post count is to copy the portions of an original post in a thread, or even any portion of Replies, that you like best and then say why you like what you have copied.
Don't worry about your writing skills, just do your best and people will understand better than you think and the more that you do the more that you will improve. And if anyone should be rude about you writing, just alert on them and the jury system will deal with any rudeness that's going on.
GreenPartyVoter
(73,393 posts)"We got this!"
We don't got this. Not yet.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)So were you at one time. I would be up to a couple thousand on DU by now if I hadn't wasted several months posting on HuffPost, mostly to right wing trolls. Are you serious?
redwitch
(15,261 posts)But I am working on it. And what I think is WE HAVE TO WIN THIS ONE.
tavernier
(14,443 posts)*crams sock in mouth and walks away rolling eyes*
quinnox
(20,600 posts)At your post>
graywarrior
(59,440 posts)ladym55
(2,577 posts)I've been around DU for quite awhile, read lots of posts, rec ones I want others to find and read, too, but I don't tend to post unless I really have something I hope will add to the conversation.
Not a troll, just a quiet person ...
Poiuyt
(18,272 posts)Those of us in Wisconsin refused to believe that Scott Walker would beat the recall efforts, but he did and his numbers were pretty close to the polls that came right before the election. Just because we don't like a poll doesn't mean it's not accurate.
That said, I'm cautiously optimistic.
randome
(34,845 posts)gkhouston
(21,642 posts)That said, something very squirrelly is going on with the latest polls. Obama is a known quantity and so, to a lesser extent, is Romney. The race shouldn't change that dramatically without a major event, and there's no way that one debate is enough to accomplish that. One hell of a lot of hype is going on.
Coexist
(26,202 posts)but we got complacent and needed that wake up call, formerly referred to as the Presidential Debate #1
GoneOffShore
(18,021 posts)But I've been here since - hold on and let me look - 2002. So for awhile I didn't post as much as I should have, except I was busier then and couldn't.
So, that under 10K thing. Less important than it would appear.
It's been a rocky road, but we're getting where we need to be.
mercuryblues
(16,413 posts)you will have to post 149 more times before your opinion matters to the OP.
Jamastiene
(38,206 posts)It's not a person's post count, but the content of their posts that matter. If they are a troll, they are a troll. If not, they just happen to not have a high post count, but are obviously supporters of Democratic ideals, then no big deal.
FogerRox
(13,211 posts)Over @ Daily kos there are similar discussions, about User numbers. I'm about 110k and used to get some grief cause I was new.
I remember when Kpete was new.....
Post count doesnt matter. Quality does.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)I think that was still in 2001, and it seemed that Keph had at least one comment on every thread. But of course there were a lot fewer threads in those days.
cali
(114,904 posts)I haven't been posting much the last few days because I'm sick of getting attacked for believing that, but that's how I see it. In the last 10 days, Mitt has turned it around. There are a ton of people here who are in complete denial of this and are now attacking the polls and all the pundit- including Nate Silver.
I don't think I've ever seen a debate take on the importance that the one between Romney and the President has. It's real and denying the shift strikes me as nothing but denial in the face of reality.
Sorry.
Jackpine Radical
(45,274 posts)The press has proved very effective in putting Their Guy on the throne. They sank Dukakis in '88, helped Newt the Grinch with his Contract on America in '94, pushed Bush within cheating distance of Gore in 2000, helped AWOL Bush turn Kerry's military record against him in 2004, pushed McNutso closer to victory than he ever deserved to get in 2008, gave us the Teabag Congress of 2010, and are lining up behind the Munsters in 2012.
Yeah. I'm nervous too.
B Calm
(28,762 posts)We know we created this big mess, but the democrats are not cleaning up our mess fast enough, so put us back in charge!
Art_from_Ark
(27,247 posts)except that the Republicans never own up to their messes. They are masters at shifting the blame.
a kennedy
(35,978 posts)I didn't mean to insult the "low posters" I just wanted opinions of the elder posters who have been through elections before..... I really just want it to be over and for the good guys to win. O and Joe, along with all the real Dem House members, and all the real Dem Senators.
and I know we're all in this together.
LiberalElite
(14,691 posts)I've been through plenty of elections B.C. (before computers) but I didn't start posting ANYWHERE till late last year. In some cultures I' be considered an elder. Never thought when I signed up for DU that I'd be considered a neonate.
Response to a kennedy (Original post)
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Darth_Kitten
(14,192 posts)n/t
Eddie Haskell
(1,628 posts)but then you wouldn't be in it.
lynne
(3,118 posts)- mostly because of threads like this that make me feel my opinion is worthless. My opinion sometimes isn't lock-step with the majority and that can get you in trouble around here.
Post count has nothing to do with how many elections you've seen, how long you've been at DU, or even if you've been discussing politics.
desertduck
(213 posts)and threads like this insinuates that I am not democratic enough. please. this mentality feels like high school. eeeh. won't have anything to do with this nonsense.
Connie_Corleone
(9,330 posts)I've been a member since 2004 and lurked for 2 years before that. I've gone months without posting here because I'm mostly on twitter. I only started back recently.
I've seen people with more posts than me acting like trolls.
juajen
(8,515 posts)Guess I'll shut up then. Also, some people have been here for many years, and never post. They just read. Perhaps you should use a date, rather than post count?
mercuryblues
(16,413 posts)I would let you know, but you seem to believe that my opinion has no value in your world. According to your own standard, your opinion is also worthless.
Gidney N Cloyd
(19,847 posts)Hell, I just sat staring at this one for a minute before clicking the Post my reply! button.
OldDem2012
(3,526 posts)...I'm getting sick and tired of posts like this who want to limit free speech on DU to supposed "old-timers" because they have a high post count. Just curious, but how do we know you're not a long-time sleeper troll trying to create divisions where none exist?
Let me tell you something while I'm REALLY pissed off. I'm almost 62 years old and I've been a strong Democrat all of my adult life, and I'm not going to let some idiotic post limit what I say or to whom I say it. I've voted for every Democratic Party candidate for President since I was old enough to vote starting with George McGovern in 1972 who won all of 17 electoral votes. I always vote the straight Democratic ticket unless somebody's discovered at the last minute to be a murderer, serial killer, rapist, or pedophile.
This is also not my first time on DU...I got really disgusted with posters like you when I bailed a few years ago.
If you don't want my opinions, then don't read my posts. Kiss my old Democratic Party ass.
WI_DEM
(33,497 posts)Omaha Steve
(109,228 posts)And here I will always be.
The DU does an excellent job of being my home page and my compass.
OS
Mz Pip
(28,454 posts)I figured we had this in the bag and that we would keep the Senate and pick up some House seats. Now I'm not so sure.
Obama needs to knock it out of the park at the next debate. No looking down, no "uh-uh" s. He has no wiggle room left and whatever excuses are made for him by the base won't count for shit with the general population.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)I've been here since 2004.
I just don't feel the need to comment on things all the time, just to drive up my post count (kinda like I'm doing now.)
LWolf
(46,179 posts)I'm not going to get a real left-of-center liberal, regardless of what popular propaganda says. I'm going to get an evil or a neoliberal. I consider neoliberalism to be an evil equal to neoconservatism.
There's nothing to vote FOR; I can only vote AGAINST by casting a vote for the lesser evil. Voting for the lesser evil will be voting to further degrade my profession, based on evidence from the last 4 years. I am sick of being the nation's fucking scapegoat, and I'm beginning to feel actual HATE for those who support my scapegoating, both public figures and those who support them. And I've always refused to hate, just on principle. I feel tainted.
There's not a damned thing to be excited about, there isn't any hope, and nobody bullies me with the fear card.
I'll do my duty; I'm a Democrat, although I'm no longer sure why, and I always vote. Outside of that I have nothing to say, and what I think is better kept to myself.
Since you asked.
Blecht
(3,806 posts)People with over 10000 posts obviously don't post enough!
They need encouragement to share their opinions.
What a stupid OP this is.
DinahMoeHum
(23,607 posts)At my current count, that's just over 1000 posts PER YEAR. That's nothing compared to a lot of other "old-timers".
And no, I'm not against "low post" folks - they are welcome as fresh blood and ideas to me.
Also, even in this economy, many of us still work in day jobs and don't have time for DU except during the evenings and weekends.
So, methinks the concern about "low-post folks" is unwarranted.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,096 posts)Trolls galore--fights among members who used to agree--quitting DU in anger--"don't let the door hit you on the way out" posts--disgruntled DUers starting new anti-DU websites--DU trolls reporting on new websites--cheers and tears and swearing, and--when it is over, we tentatively return--Skinner sometimes allows people to change their DU names and start anew--the fights and anger and hardfeelings behind us.
Just like political talk at my family's Thanksgiving table.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Maybe OMC or BBI would impress you. Pretty impressive post counts back in the day.
Scout
(8,625 posts)NoPasaran
(17,317 posts)Hopefully we hold the Senate. Maybe make some gains in the House, enough to put us in striking distance for 2014.
As far as all this troll/low-post-count brouhaha goes, meh. The truth is that dominance of internet discussion boards equates to squat in real world politics. If it did, we would have nominated Kucinich in 2008 and the GOP would be running Ron Paul this year. Like many other places on the web, DU functions by groupthink and hysteria. A couple of weeks ago, the overwhelming mood was that the election was already over and the GOP was kaput. Last week, people were talking about packing their bags and moving to Canada or Costa Rica. This week, we're once again winning so we devote our time to looking for the trolls hiding under every bed. It's all tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.
If you want to actually help our guys win, actually volunteering a few hours of time with a local campaign does infinitely more than exposing a hundred trolls.
MajPayne2
(202 posts)I have been here four years, donate religiously, but have less than 10,000 posts, I am less trustworthy than someone who has a requisite post count and it makes them more credible?
REP
(21,691 posts)Better suited to Meta. Please consider reposting.