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a kennedy

(35,978 posts)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:36 PM Oct 2012

I want to hear from the over 10,000 post people....

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by REP (a host of the General Discussion forum).

I mean it....what do all of you think....I'm getting pretty sick and tired of all the low post folks....come on over 10,000 people, tell us what YOU think about this whole 2012 election. Please.

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I want to hear from the over 10,000 post people.... (Original Post) a kennedy Oct 2012 OP
We might have said something ... zbdent Oct 2012 #1
Well, I was here for the 2004 and 2008 elections, begin_within Oct 2012 #2
So was I (2003-2009) until I burned out. Indpndnt Oct 2012 #31
Don't forget the Terri Schiavo escapade Horse with no Name Oct 2012 #55
I think anyone with less than 10,000 posts should just shut the hell up (nt) Nye Bevan Oct 2012 #3
Even those who have been here for almost 12 years? n/t Oilwellian Oct 2012 #25
That'll be the hardcore 'coma cell' n/t Turborama Oct 2012 #73
I've been here for a long time samplegirl Oct 2012 #78
I have easily read 10,000 posts since 2001 JSK Oct 2012 #99
Lol! So, we're imagining each other's posts, then? Indpndnt Oct 2012 #32
I'm alerting on you Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #76
LOL.. shame on you. lumpy Oct 2012 #57
Are you a republican? Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #103
You have less than 10,000 posts Aerows Oct 2012 #111
I'm cautiously optimistic quinnox Oct 2012 #4
I SERIOUSLY WANT TO SEE ROMNEY'S 10 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS!! shraby Oct 2012 #5
^ What They said Capn Sunshine Oct 2012 #7
anti-poster-ism faith woos science Oct 2012 #6
Welcome to DU Robyn66 Oct 2012 #9
Thanks, faith woos science Oct 2012 #11
faith woos science: "Member since: Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:34 PM" Speck Tater Oct 2012 #29
It's going to get worse flamingdem Oct 2012 #8
Exactly right. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #20
Several of them share a personality flamingdem Oct 2012 #26
2008 was a nightmare. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #38
Perhaps you don't remember but there were several respected high post DUers Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #27
I do remember. Seventh son was in 2004. Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #30
"There really are some weird people on the net" Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #39
I was a brand spanking new DUer during the 2004 election Lone_Star_Dem Oct 2012 #43
Some debts were never meant to be repaid. Pay them forward instead. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #83
Gives me a better understanding of politics in the Byzantine Empire. bemildred Oct 2012 #10
I think 70,000 should be the minimum before you can post. Come back later. ;-) leveymg Oct 2012 #58
I have been here 10 yrs..almost 10,000 posts and there are many trolls here... Tikki Oct 2012 #12
been here since 2002... mike_c Oct 2012 #13
so true...it used to be open and respectful of many sides of an issue. Only way you grow. No one Laura PourMeADrink Oct 2012 #37
Great idea. We could call that forum Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #84
psst nebenaube Oct 2012 #110
Ja, wirklich. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #112
Yep. It's a different sort of place now, and I too read more than I post. GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #49
Meh, it's been worse. Xipe Totec Oct 2012 #14
I was her since 2002 but changed name in 2008 only have 1600 posts Tribetime Oct 2012 #15
I've been here since 2004 Liberalynn Oct 2012 #82
If we all vote, and all of the votes are counted, the President will win this election. porphyrian Oct 2012 #16
I think the repubs best hope is to shut down early voting, prevent the 3 days of Liberal_in_LA Oct 2012 #17
Didn't we win this fight? Or, is this being appealed to The Supremes? juajen Oct 2012 #94
It's not as if newer members didn't experience those elections. Barack_America Oct 2012 #18
WTF? Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #19
Not every old timer is willing to write you off... Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #24
Echoing Luminous Animal's Sentiments here. Le Taz Hot Oct 2012 #35
Seriously don't get upset if they want to have their own thread DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #41
most opinions don't count online.. snooper2 Oct 2012 #44
I love your screen name! ncgrits Oct 2012 #47
poke poke that's your queue to start a lurker thread DisabledAmerican Oct 2012 #50
Howdy! GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #48
Thanks! Unknown Beatle Oct 2012 #63
I'll welcome you. But I don't qualify, since I have <5000 posts, but 11 years here DisgustipatedinCA Oct 2012 #66
Token low-poster! theinquisitivechad Oct 2012 #21
I am not sick of the low post people AND I think election season is silly season... Luminous Animal Oct 2012 #22
Obama will get about 310 electoral votes grantcart Oct 2012 #23
over 365 Coyotl Oct 2012 #80
There will always be low post count posters. Some are trolls, most are not. CaliforniaPeggy Oct 2012 #28
The problem is not low-post people. Speck Tater Oct 2012 #33
That is really an arrogant position. bluestate10 Oct 2012 #34
we were all Low Posters at one Time, but Concern Trolls always pop up closer to election time JI7 Oct 2012 #36
I have 90,000. Should I post 9 times? proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #40
I would read all 9 of 'em. :^) GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #46
LOL! proud2BlibKansan Oct 2012 #60
I don't post because my writing skills are not very good ... mecherosegarden Oct 2012 #42
Posting links to interesting articles, along with a couple of paragraphs or sentences excerpted from patrice Oct 2012 #61
I always have 2004 in the back of my mind, so I can't put on rose-colored glasses and say, GreenPartyVoter Oct 2012 #45
I'm (obviously) new here LiberalElite Oct 2012 #51
Not quite at 10,000. redwitch Oct 2012 #52
ok tavernier Oct 2012 #53
I was rofl quinnox Oct 2012 #71
We all learned to sit back and PM one another.....lol graywarrior Oct 2012 #54
Technically I'm a low poster ladym55 Oct 2012 #56
One thing that worries me is people only accepting the polls they like Poiuyt Oct 2012 #59
Post counts have no necessary relation to DU membership duration. randome Oct 2012 #62
I think calling out DUers based on their post count makes DU suck. gkhouston Oct 2012 #64
I think we got this Coexist Oct 2012 #65
I'm cautiously optimistic - And I'm just under 10K posts. GoneOffShore Oct 2012 #67
Apparently mercuryblues Oct 2012 #75
... FedUpWithIt All Oct 2012 #68
I sure miss unRec. Jamastiene Oct 2012 #69
Joined late '04, hit 10k and left for 5 yrs, now back with 12k FogerRox Oct 2012 #70
I remember when Kephra hit 10,000. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #86
I think there's a serious threat of a Romney presidency. cali Oct 2012 #72
Yes, the threat is serious, and I would never attack you for saying so. Jackpine Radical Oct 2012 #90
The republican campaign in a nutshell B Calm Oct 2012 #74
That's would be it in a nutshell Art_from_Ark Oct 2012 #93
Thank you all for writing responses...... a kennedy Oct 2012 #77
ok but, not to beat a dead horse LiberalElite Oct 2012 #104
Post removed Post removed Oct 2012 #79
It may be a nail-biter. Shouldn't be, but the media's on Romney's side. Darth_Kitten Oct 2012 #81
Maybe you should have your own forum ... Eddie Haskell Oct 2012 #85
Been here 8 years, this is my 3rd election at DU, but I don't have 10,000 posts - lynne Oct 2012 #87
i have been here since '04 and have around 3000 posts. desertduck Oct 2012 #114
Number of posts mean nothing. Connie_Corleone Oct 2012 #88
I joined DU in 2002, but do not have the required number of posts. juajen Oct 2012 #89
asks a person with 6,227 posts mercuryblues Oct 2012 #91
I'd probably have well over twice my post count if I'd dared post every one I'd started. Gidney N Cloyd Oct 2012 #92
Heads up, Sparky! I've got a response you're not going to like.... OldDem2012 Oct 2012 #95
What do I think? I think Obama is going to win. WI_DEM Oct 2012 #96
Here I am Omaha Steve Oct 2012 #97
Up until the debate Mz Pip Oct 2012 #98
My 7k+ posts don't indicate how long I've been on DU justiceischeap Oct 2012 #100
I am indifferent. LWolf Oct 2012 #101
Perfectly logical request Blecht Oct 2012 #102
I've been with DU since March 2002. Ten and a half years. DinahMoeHum Oct 2012 #105
I have been here since 2004. And...it happens every election season. Evergreen Emerald Oct 2012 #106
Why? Sekhmets Daughter Oct 2012 #107
"....I'm getting pretty sick and tired of all the low post folks" NCTraveler Oct 2012 #108
one should be careful to not confuse quantity and quality. n/t Scout Oct 2012 #109
Well, I think President Obama is going to be re-elected NoPasaran Oct 2012 #113
So Because MajPayne2 Oct 2012 #115
Locking REP Oct 2012 #116

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
1. We might have said something ...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

if you were over the 10000 post mark ....

 

begin_within

(21,551 posts)
2. Well, I was here for the 2004 and 2008 elections,
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:38 PM
Oct 2012

And of course the 2004 was a very sad, dark time, the 2008 joyous, and of course this one very nerve-wracking.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
31. So was I (2003-2009) until I burned out.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:08 PM
Oct 2012

And lost my account when I switched emails and forgot my password. Ah, well. Everything old is new again!



Horse with no Name

(34,239 posts)
55. Don't forget the Terri Schiavo escapade
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:35 PM
Oct 2012

That is where I earned my post count,lol

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
3. I think anyone with less than 10,000 posts should just shut the hell up (nt)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:40 PM
Oct 2012

Oilwellian

(12,647 posts)
25. Even those who have been here for almost 12 years? n/t
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

Turborama

(22,109 posts)
73. That'll be the hardcore 'coma cell' n/t
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:40 AM
Oct 2012

samplegirl

(13,984 posts)
78. I've been here for a long time
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:51 AM
Oct 2012

Not much of a poster but spent tons of my time working for my party phone banking, canvassing and petitions.
I read here daily.....so have always been up on issues ect.

JSK

(1,128 posts)
99. I have easily read 10,000 posts since 2001
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:07 AM
Oct 2012

And this is a stupid one. Man, has this place changed since there were less than 5,000 members.

Indpndnt

(2,391 posts)
32. Lol! So, we're imagining each other's posts, then?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:09 PM
Oct 2012

Okey-doke! [url=http://www.cosgan.de/smilie.php][img][/img][/url]

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
76. I'm alerting on you
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:50 AM
Oct 2012

for what I think you actually meant to say.

lumpy

(13,704 posts)
57. LOL.. shame on you.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:37 PM
Oct 2012

n

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
103. Are you a republican?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:14 AM
Oct 2012
 

Aerows

(39,961 posts)
111. You have less than 10,000 posts
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:12 PM
Oct 2012

You first

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
4. I'm cautiously optimistic
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:41 PM
Oct 2012

shraby

(21,946 posts)
5. I SERIOUSLY WANT TO SEE ROMNEY'S 10 YEARS OF TAX RETURNS!!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:41 PM
Oct 2012

Capn Sunshine

(14,378 posts)
7. ^ What They said
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:42 PM
Oct 2012

here since 2001. Not much is postworthy these days.

 
6. anti-poster-ism
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:41 PM
Oct 2012

Robyn66

(1,675 posts)
9. Welcome to DU
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:44 PM
Oct 2012

There are some real dicks here but the vast majority are awesome!!!!

 
11. Thanks,
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

been lurking since 2004

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
29. faith woos science: "Member since: Sun Oct 7, 2012, 09:34 PM"
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:07 PM
Oct 2012

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
8. It's going to get worse
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:43 PM
Oct 2012

They are sneaky. There are surely many sleeper trollz who come out just for the Presidential elections. They might even have a substantial post count. They like polls.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
20. Exactly right.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
Oct 2012

This is the tip of the iceberg. The more they worry, or gawd forbid smell blood, they show up in swarms.

Honestly, I don't think most posters realized before how prevalent they were thanks to the mods. Now they're everywhere, and they're breeding like roaches.

flamingdem

(40,891 posts)
26. Several of them share a personality
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:59 PM
Oct 2012

I remember them from 2008. It's not that hard to step on their toes and get them upset. Then poof, they're gone!

One type defends itself rigorously the other type never checks much for responses probably because they have to go elsewhere according to the script that is directing them.

Some are doing it for fun or heartfelt ideology, those are the ones who can really waste our time!



Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
38. 2008 was a nightmare.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:13 PM
Oct 2012

It was my first primary as a member. I lost friends. Some I still miss.

Back to the election, though. I was seasoned by then. I could smell the basic troll as 5 paces. They still managed to raise a stink here though. But the mods were amazing with their nukes. How does any one fall for their crap? That's what I don't get. They're so transparent.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
27. Perhaps you don't remember but there were several respected high post DUers
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:00 PM
Oct 2012

during the Kerry - Bush campaign and election who outed themselves as Bush supporters after the election. It was brutal.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
30. I do remember. Seventh son was in 2004.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:08 PM
Oct 2012

That one shook some people's trees here. Having been new, I wasn't too surprised. I only knew them by their jerk postings leading up to the election. Afterward I read back a bit and saw how folks were fooled. Kind of. There were so many more, too. Those were wild times! I forgave everyone who thought I was a troll at first after that.

There really are some weird people on the net.

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
39. "There really are some weird people on the net"
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:14 PM
Oct 2012

Indeed!

I am getting disgusted with the notion that low post DUers are being covered with the troll blanket.

Engage, people, engage! Use our wits so that we don't discourage passionate Democrats. If they bought the meme of the MSM, then enlighten don't insult.

Lone_Star_Dem

(28,158 posts)
43. I was a brand spanking new DUer during the 2004 election
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:24 PM
Oct 2012

I was tested. Boy how I was tested! I learned so much here then. And i never was a gloom and doom poster. I wanted facts, knowledge and to be around like minded people. Those are still the things I look for in new DUers today.

BTW, I found what I was looking for after my trial by fire here. This place has taught me how to argue effectively with the ever growing population of Teabaggers I'm exposed to. I can't repay that debt.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
83. Some debts were never meant to be repaid. Pay them forward instead.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

Be kind to new posters, don't assume ill-will where low information is more likely to blame, and assume that most newcomers arrive with the typical packet of M$M crapola--"Both sides do it," "Ryan is a wonk," "Our biggest problem is the deficit," etc., and need to be gently led out of their cocoons of misinformation & misconception.

Personally, in almost all cases, I think it's important to distinguish between the poster and the misinformation. It's possible to correct the latter without emotionally mangling the former.

We've seen a lot of people come on board rather naive and evolve sophistication over time. That is a wonderful process, and one we need to promote. It doesn't happen if you drive people off in their first 50 posts, some of which are very likely to be ill-informed.

bemildred

(90,061 posts)
10. Gives me a better understanding of politics in the Byzantine Empire.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

leveymg

(36,418 posts)
58. I think 70,000 should be the minimum before you can post. Come back later. ;-)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:52 PM
Oct 2012

Tikki

(15,140 posts)
12. I have been here 10 yrs..almost 10,000 posts and there are many trolls here...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

I am sure they think it's like a little game. It is not and YES people
die from lack of health insurance, they know it but they are humans who
don't care about other humans...

Sad really..and pathetic, but they think they are brave somehow sticking it to others...
They are just cowards, really...


Tikki

mike_c

(37,051 posts)
13. been here since 2002...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:48 PM
Oct 2012

...and DU has changed somewhat, but I suppose that's expected. I remember spirited discussion about Al Gore's shortcomings as a candidate-- in retrospect, of course. Similarly, there didn't seem to be as many attempts to enforce lockstep unity during John Kerry's campaign, although many good DUers left during the primary in 2004. Nonetheless, I felt quite comfortable having open debates about Kerry's negatives. I didn't support either Clinton or Obama in 2008, although like many here I was moved to tears by Obama's election. I still don't support his reelection, however-- I'm way to the left of today's democratic party-- but I have not felt at all comfortable discussing the reasons for my stance on DU this time around, so I don't. I read DU much more than I post, these days.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
37. so true...it used to be open and respectful of many sides of an issue. Only way you grow. No one
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:13 PM
Oct 2012

grows by all agreeing every single thing Obama/Biden does. I wish there was a separate forum for "wide open" discussion of anything without any personal recriminations

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
84. Great idea. We could call that forum
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
Oct 2012

Trollhaugen.

 

nebenaube

(3,496 posts)
110. psst
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:02 PM
Oct 2012

I think they've figured out a way to highjack accounts and they want to figure out which accounts to use to do the most damage.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
112. Ja, wirklich.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:46 PM
Oct 2012

Was rauchst du?

GreenPartyVoter

(73,393 posts)
49. Yep. It's a different sort of place now, and I too read more than I post.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:27 PM
Oct 2012

Xipe Totec

(44,558 posts)
14. Meh, it's been worse.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012

It really gets freaky during election season. Lots of interest from new folks, some genuine, some intruders, some really hyper, some laid back.

In the end, some will like it and stick around for the long haul, the intruders will get ejected, and some people will find the tension too great and move on.

Tribetime

(7,145 posts)
15. I was her since 2002 but changed name in 2008 only have 1600 posts
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:49 PM
Oct 2012
 

Liberalynn

(7,549 posts)
82. I've been here since 2004
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:01 AM
Oct 2012

cause during the Dumbya thing I felt the whole world had gone nuts and wanted to be around like minded people to save my sanity. Couldn't believe people could have voted for such a moron once let alone twice. I truly believe Dumbya and the Pukes stole the elections against Gore and Kerry.

I don't post everyday but I read almost every day and comment when I feel moved to. Also were our post counts from the old board carried forward ? For some reason I think mine seems low and I didn't change names. Could just be remembering wrong though. Man since I hit 50 my former photographic memory has just flashed out.

I have to believe Obama will win because the alternative is too horrible to contemplate.

 

porphyrian

(18,530 posts)
16. If we all vote, and all of the votes are counted, the President will win this election.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

Romney's campaign is so dead, it appears last on the Mayan calendar.

 

Liberal_in_LA

(44,397 posts)
17. I think the repubs best hope is to shut down early voting, prevent the 3 days of
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:50 PM
Oct 2012

early voting before election day, in Ohio, when African Americans vote.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
94. Didn't we win this fight? Or, is this being appealed to The Supremes?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:43 AM
Oct 2012

Barack_America

(28,876 posts)
18. It's not as if newer members didn't experience those elections.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
Oct 2012

As for the DU experience, this election has been better than 2004 and 2008. 2004 sucked for obvious reasons and the primary season of 2008 was brutal around here.

Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
19. WTF?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:52 PM
Oct 2012

I have been online for years and have posted on countless sites, easily well over 50,000 posts, but because I'm new here, my opinions don't count? Wow! Just wow!

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
24. Not every old timer is willing to write you off...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:57 PM
Oct 2012

Welcome to DU from one 10,000+ member who welcomes new voices to DU.

Le Taz Hot

(22,271 posts)
35. Echoing Luminous Animal's Sentiments here.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

Unless one is a PROVEN troll, your opinions most definitely do count. Welcome to DU.

 

DisabledAmerican

(452 posts)
41. Seriously don't get upset if they want to have their own thread
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:20 PM
Oct 2012

Threads are many if you do not like their thread you can make one with a low reply count thread. Honestly it's not a big deal. They just want to talk thinking a long term count matters. People can do rapid post and be here less, but have more post. It's honestly no big deal. As long as there is no harmful things being posted about Dems I see no harm in it. Let them have their discussion and be respectful we newer members can just as easy start our own so no worries. The better person is the one who doesn't let it get to them just part of the web sometimes they will never accept you no matter how many post you have or how long you've been there it's just part of the internet social media. It's life! Like High School people pick which table they want to sit at.

 

snooper2

(30,151 posts)
44. most opinions don't count online..
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012

It's the fucking intertubes after all LOL...

Now if you're posting a youtube video on the proper way to troubleshoot the ECM on a 2004 Ford Focus, you may get some RESPECT

ncgrits

(916 posts)
47. I love your screen name!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:26 PM
Oct 2012

Welcome from a longtime low-posting lurker.

 

DisabledAmerican

(452 posts)
50. poke poke that's your queue to start a lurker thread
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:28 PM
Oct 2012

GreenPartyVoter

(73,393 posts)
48. Howdy!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:27 PM
Oct 2012

Unknown Beatle

(2,691 posts)
63. Thanks!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:06 PM
Oct 2012

To all.

Yeah, I kinda took it personally. Not because I don't have 10,000 posts, but because it sounded kinda elitist to ask people with thousands of posts their opinion and posters under that are not welcome. I was wrong, let people be people and let them do their thing regardless of what I think.

C'est la Vie.

 

DisgustipatedinCA

(12,530 posts)
66. I'll welcome you. But I don't qualify, since I have <5000 posts, but 11 years here
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:35 PM
Oct 2012

Welcome anyway. Glad to have you.

theinquisitivechad

(322 posts)
21. Token low-poster!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:54 PM
Oct 2012

But you can tell from my posts whose side I'm on

Luminous Animal

(27,310 posts)
22. I am not sick of the low post people AND I think election season is silly season...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:55 PM
Oct 2012

A ridiculous 18 month exhausting exercise in vapidness.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. Obama will get about 310 electoral votes
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 09:56 PM
Oct 2012

The President's campaign has invested tens of millions into the most massive get out the vote operation in history.

The polls, even the good ones, have to base their projections based on discounting the number of registered voters who are not going to vote. There is simply no way for them to guage a new pattern if a new model of GOTV is used. The higher the number of those voting the greater the margin of victory.

In the last 5 general elections the Democratic Party has won the popular vote 4 times. The only time that the popular vote was not in the Democrats favor was in 2004, in the middle of a hot war, and the American people have never changed Presidents in the middle of a hot war.

There is a conservative nature to the American people in that they prefer what they know than making an abrupt change without an overwhelming reason. In the end there will be a lot of middle of the road people who will simply vote for the incumbent rather than a challenger.

Finally the electoral college is a big advantage for us. The President has done an excellent job of spreading the battle lines so that they will have to spread their resources. In the last two weeks no one will be watching the ads and after the debates they will be watching a charismatic young President making the closing arguments before huge crowds. Gerald Ford came back from 30 points down and lost by a few points because while the American people may think that they don't like the incumbent they actually will root for the guy fighting for his job.

Then there is this. You cannot win the Presidency by being against something you actually have to be for something. Romney has no vision, no case and in the end no hope to win.
 

Coyotl

(15,262 posts)
80. over 365
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:54 AM
Oct 2012

over 400 if we start a new war in time

CaliforniaPeggy

(156,619 posts)
28. There will always be low post count posters. Some are trolls, most are not.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:05 PM
Oct 2012

MIRT has its hands full getting rid of the bad ones, and the rest contribute.

Not to worry!

We will get through this.

 

Speck Tater

(10,618 posts)
33. The problem is not low-post people.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:10 PM
Oct 2012

The problem is low-post people who spout nothing but right-wing talking points.

bluestate10

(10,942 posts)
34. That is really an arrogant position.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:11 PM
Oct 2012

I care more about whether the person is a true democrat.

JI7

(93,616 posts)
36. we were all Low Posters at one Time, but Concern Trolls always pop up closer to election time
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:12 PM
Oct 2012

and we must call them out.

but we do have a lot of good new posters with low post counts and they have been great.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
40. I have 90,000. Should I post 9 times?
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:16 PM
Oct 2012

GreenPartyVoter

(73,393 posts)
46. I would read all 9 of 'em. :^)
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
60. LOL!
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:54 PM
Oct 2012

mecherosegarden

(745 posts)
42. I don't post because my writing skills are not very good ...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:23 PM
Oct 2012

and I seen how hard some people is toward those who lack writing's skills. But, I donate here, I donate to the Obama campaign , even though I am just a Psy D. intern, with not pay here in California. I love my president! Sometimes I don't agree with some of the post here , but I respect everyone's opinion. And with all due respect, how can one reach those " 10,000" post without one being called first a troll by some DU members or disrespected in some ways ?

patrice

(47,992 posts)
61. Posting links to interesting articles, along with a couple of paragraphs or sentences excerpted from
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:58 PM
Oct 2012

the linked article is a good way to increase your post count, because people will see the article and engage you in discussion about it.

Also, posting brief replies to what others post, or to their replies, is another way to increase your post count fast. Your brief replies could be things like "Agree" or some people post "Kick!" or "K&R" (which stands for Kick & Recommend) in order to add more replies to a Thread so that the system will make it rise to the top of the Latest Threads feed again.

Another good way to add to your post count is to ask questions. That could be questions about anything you don't understand or it could be questions about issues related to a post, issues that add information or add perspective.

Another way to add to your post count is to copy the portions of an original post in a thread, or even any portion of Replies, that you like best and then say why you like what you have copied.

Don't worry about your writing skills, just do your best and people will understand better than you think and the more that you do the more that you will improve. And if anyone should be rude about you writing, just alert on them and the jury system will deal with any rudeness that's going on.

GreenPartyVoter

(73,393 posts)
45. I always have 2004 in the back of my mind, so I can't put on rose-colored glasses and say,
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:25 PM
Oct 2012

"We got this!"

We don't got this. Not yet.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
51. I'm (obviously) new here
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:31 PM
Oct 2012

So were you at one time. I would be up to a couple thousand on DU by now if I hadn't wasted several months posting on HuffPost, mostly to right wing trolls. Are you serious?

redwitch

(15,261 posts)
52. Not quite at 10,000.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:32 PM
Oct 2012

But I am working on it. And what I think is WE HAVE TO WIN THIS ONE.

tavernier

(14,443 posts)
53. ok
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:33 PM
Oct 2012

*crams sock in mouth and walks away rolling eyes*

 

quinnox

(20,600 posts)
71. I was rofl
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:16 AM
Oct 2012

At your post>

graywarrior

(59,440 posts)
54. We all learned to sit back and PM one another.....lol
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:34 PM
Oct 2012

ladym55

(2,577 posts)
56. Technically I'm a low poster
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:36 PM
Oct 2012

I've been around DU for quite awhile, read lots of posts, rec ones I want others to find and read, too, but I don't tend to post unless I really have something I hope will add to the conversation.

Not a troll, just a quiet person ...

Poiuyt

(18,272 posts)
59. One thing that worries me is people only accepting the polls they like
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 10:53 PM
Oct 2012

Those of us in Wisconsin refused to believe that Scott Walker would beat the recall efforts, but he did and his numbers were pretty close to the polls that came right before the election. Just because we don't like a poll doesn't mean it's not accurate.

That said, I'm cautiously optimistic.

 

randome

(34,845 posts)
62. Post counts have no necessary relation to DU membership duration.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:05 PM
Oct 2012

gkhouston

(21,642 posts)
64. I think calling out DUers based on their post count makes DU suck.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:32 PM
Oct 2012

That said, something very squirrelly is going on with the latest polls. Obama is a known quantity and so, to a lesser extent, is Romney. The race shouldn't change that dramatically without a major event, and there's no way that one debate is enough to accomplish that. One hell of a lot of hype is going on.

Coexist

(26,202 posts)
65. I think we got this
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:35 PM
Oct 2012

but we got complacent and needed that wake up call, formerly referred to as the Presidential Debate #1

GoneOffShore

(18,021 posts)
67. I'm cautiously optimistic - And I'm just under 10K posts.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:37 PM
Oct 2012

But I've been here since - hold on and let me look - 2002. So for awhile I didn't post as much as I should have, except I was busier then and couldn't.

So, that under 10K thing. Less important than it would appear.

It's been a rocky road, but we're getting where we need to be.

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
75. Apparently
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:44 AM
Oct 2012

you will have to post 149 more times before your opinion matters to the OP.

FedUpWithIt All

(4,442 posts)
68. ...
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:39 PM
Oct 2012

Jamastiene

(38,206 posts)
69. I sure miss unRec.
Fri Oct 12, 2012, 11:45 PM
Oct 2012

It's not a person's post count, but the content of their posts that matter. If they are a troll, they are a troll. If not, they just happen to not have a high post count, but are obviously supporters of Democratic ideals, then no big deal.

FogerRox

(13,211 posts)
70. Joined late '04, hit 10k and left for 5 yrs, now back with 12k
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 12:24 AM
Oct 2012

Over @ Daily kos there are similar discussions, about User numbers. I'm about 110k and used to get some grief cause I was new.

I remember when Kpete was new.....

Post count doesnt matter. Quality does.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
86. I remember when Kephra hit 10,000.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:06 AM
Oct 2012

I think that was still in 2001, and it seemed that Keph had at least one comment on every thread. But of course there were a lot fewer threads in those days.

 

cali

(114,904 posts)
72. I think there's a serious threat of a Romney presidency.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 05:53 AM
Oct 2012

I haven't been posting much the last few days because I'm sick of getting attacked for believing that, but that's how I see it. In the last 10 days, Mitt has turned it around. There are a ton of people here who are in complete denial of this and are now attacking the polls and all the pundit- including Nate Silver.

I don't think I've ever seen a debate take on the importance that the one between Romney and the President has. It's real and denying the shift strikes me as nothing but denial in the face of reality.

Sorry.

Jackpine Radical

(45,274 posts)
90. Yes, the threat is serious, and I would never attack you for saying so.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:13 AM
Oct 2012

The press has proved very effective in putting Their Guy on the throne. They sank Dukakis in '88, helped Newt the Grinch with his Contract on America in '94, pushed Bush within cheating distance of Gore in 2000, helped AWOL Bush turn Kerry's military record against him in 2004, pushed McNutso closer to victory than he ever deserved to get in 2008, gave us the Teabag Congress of 2010, and are lining up behind the Munsters in 2012.

Yeah. I'm nervous too.

 

B Calm

(28,762 posts)
74. The republican campaign in a nutshell
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 06:48 AM
Oct 2012

We know we created this big mess, but the democrats are not cleaning up our mess fast enough, so put us back in charge!

Art_from_Ark

(27,247 posts)
93. That's would be it in a nutshell
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:24 AM
Oct 2012

except that the Republicans never own up to their messes. They are masters at shifting the blame.

a kennedy

(35,978 posts)
77. Thank you all for writing responses......
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:50 AM
Oct 2012

I didn't mean to insult the "low posters" I just wanted opinions of the elder posters who have been through elections before..... I really just want it to be over and for the good guys to win. O and Joe, along with all the real Dem House members, and all the real Dem Senators. and I know we're all in this together.

LiberalElite

(14,691 posts)
104. ok but, not to beat a dead horse
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:18 AM
Oct 2012

I've been through plenty of elections B.C. (before computers) but I didn't start posting ANYWHERE till late last year. In some cultures I' be considered an elder. Never thought when I signed up for DU that I'd be considered a neonate.

Response to a kennedy (Original post)

Darth_Kitten

(14,192 posts)
81. It may be a nail-biter. Shouldn't be, but the media's on Romney's side.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 09:59 AM
Oct 2012

n/t

Eddie Haskell

(1,628 posts)
85. Maybe you should have your own forum ...
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:04 AM
Oct 2012

but then you wouldn't be in it.

lynne

(3,118 posts)
87. Been here 8 years, this is my 3rd election at DU, but I don't have 10,000 posts -
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:08 AM
Oct 2012

- mostly because of threads like this that make me feel my opinion is worthless. My opinion sometimes isn't lock-step with the majority and that can get you in trouble around here.

Post count has nothing to do with how many elections you've seen, how long you've been at DU, or even if you've been discussing politics.

desertduck

(213 posts)
114. i have been here since '04 and have around 3000 posts.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:03 PM
Oct 2012

and threads like this insinuates that I am not democratic enough. please. this mentality feels like high school. eeeh. won't have anything to do with this nonsense.

Connie_Corleone

(9,330 posts)
88. Number of posts mean nothing.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

I've been a member since 2004 and lurked for 2 years before that. I've gone months without posting here because I'm mostly on twitter. I only started back recently.

I've seen people with more posts than me acting like trolls.

juajen

(8,515 posts)
89. I joined DU in 2002, but do not have the required number of posts.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:12 AM
Oct 2012

Guess I'll shut up then. Also, some people have been here for many years, and never post. They just read. Perhaps you should use a date, rather than post count?

mercuryblues

(16,413 posts)
91. asks a person with 6,227 posts
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:15 AM
Oct 2012

I would let you know, but you seem to believe that my opinion has no value in your world. According to your own standard, your opinion is also worthless.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,847 posts)
92. I'd probably have well over twice my post count if I'd dared post every one I'd started.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:17 AM
Oct 2012

Hell, I just sat staring at this one for a minute before clicking the Post my reply! button.

OldDem2012

(3,526 posts)
95. Heads up, Sparky! I've got a response you're not going to like....
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:44 AM
Oct 2012

...I'm getting sick and tired of posts like this who want to limit free speech on DU to supposed "old-timers" because they have a high post count. Just curious, but how do we know you're not a long-time sleeper troll trying to create divisions where none exist?

Let me tell you something while I'm REALLY pissed off. I'm almost 62 years old and I've been a strong Democrat all of my adult life, and I'm not going to let some idiotic post limit what I say or to whom I say it. I've voted for every Democratic Party candidate for President since I was old enough to vote starting with George McGovern in 1972 who won all of 17 electoral votes. I always vote the straight Democratic ticket unless somebody's discovered at the last minute to be a murderer, serial killer, rapist, or pedophile.

This is also not my first time on DU...I got really disgusted with posters like you when I bailed a few years ago.

If you don't want my opinions, then don't read my posts. Kiss my old Democratic Party ass.

WI_DEM

(33,497 posts)
96. What do I think? I think Obama is going to win.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:45 AM
Oct 2012

Omaha Steve

(109,228 posts)
97. Here I am
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:53 AM
Oct 2012

And here I will always be.

The DU does an excellent job of being my home page and my compass.

OS

Mz Pip

(28,454 posts)
98. Up until the debate
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 10:56 AM
Oct 2012

I figured we had this in the bag and that we would keep the Senate and pick up some House seats. Now I'm not so sure.

Obama needs to knock it out of the park at the next debate. No looking down, no "uh-uh" s. He has no wiggle room left and whatever excuses are made for him by the base won't count for shit with the general population.

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
100. My 7k+ posts don't indicate how long I've been on DU
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

I've been here since 2004.

I just don't feel the need to comment on things all the time, just to drive up my post count (kinda like I'm doing now.)

LWolf

(46,179 posts)
101. I am indifferent.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:10 AM
Oct 2012

I'm not going to get a real left-of-center liberal, regardless of what popular propaganda says. I'm going to get an evil or a neoliberal. I consider neoliberalism to be an evil equal to neoconservatism.

There's nothing to vote FOR; I can only vote AGAINST by casting a vote for the lesser evil. Voting for the lesser evil will be voting to further degrade my profession, based on evidence from the last 4 years. I am sick of being the nation's fucking scapegoat, and I'm beginning to feel actual HATE for those who support my scapegoating, both public figures and those who support them. And I've always refused to hate, just on principle. I feel tainted.

There's not a damned thing to be excited about, there isn't any hope, and nobody bullies me with the fear card.

I'll do my duty; I'm a Democrat, although I'm no longer sure why, and I always vote. Outside of that I have nothing to say, and what I think is better kept to myself.

Since you asked.

Blecht

(3,806 posts)
102. Perfectly logical request
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:12 AM
Oct 2012

People with over 10000 posts obviously don't post enough!

They need encouragement to share their opinions.

What a stupid OP this is.

DinahMoeHum

(23,607 posts)
105. I've been with DU since March 2002. Ten and a half years.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:38 AM
Oct 2012

At my current count, that's just over 1000 posts PER YEAR. That's nothing compared to a lot of other "old-timers".

And no, I'm not against "low post" folks - they are welcome as fresh blood and ideas to me.

Also, even in this economy, many of us still work in day jobs and don't have time for DU except during the evenings and weekends.

So, methinks the concern about "low-post folks" is unwarranted.

Evergreen Emerald

(13,096 posts)
106. I have been here since 2004. And...it happens every election season.
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:41 AM
Oct 2012

Trolls galore--fights among members who used to agree--quitting DU in anger--"don't let the door hit you on the way out" posts--disgruntled DUers starting new anti-DU websites--DU trolls reporting on new websites--cheers and tears and swearing, and--when it is over, we tentatively return--Skinner sometimes allows people to change their DU names and start anew--the fights and anger and hardfeelings behind us.

Just like political talk at my family's Thanksgiving table.

Sekhmets Daughter

(7,515 posts)
107. Why?
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:44 AM
Oct 2012
 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
108. "....I'm getting pretty sick and tired of all the low post folks"
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:51 AM
Oct 2012

Maybe OMC or BBI would impress you. Pretty impressive post counts back in the day.

Scout

(8,625 posts)
109. one should be careful to not confuse quantity and quality. n/t
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 11:55 AM
Oct 2012

NoPasaran

(17,317 posts)
113. Well, I think President Obama is going to be re-elected
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 01:53 PM
Oct 2012

Hopefully we hold the Senate. Maybe make some gains in the House, enough to put us in striking distance for 2014.

As far as all this troll/low-post-count brouhaha goes, meh. The truth is that dominance of internet discussion boards equates to squat in real world politics. If it did, we would have nominated Kucinich in 2008 and the GOP would be running Ron Paul this year. Like many other places on the web, DU functions by groupthink and hysteria. A couple of weeks ago, the overwhelming mood was that the election was already over and the GOP was kaput. Last week, people were talking about packing their bags and moving to Canada or Costa Rica. This week, we're once again winning so we devote our time to looking for the trolls hiding under every bed. It's all tale told by an idiot, full of sound and fury, signifying nothing.

If you want to actually help our guys win, actually volunteering a few hours of time with a local campaign does infinitely more than exposing a hundred trolls.

MajPayne2

(202 posts)
115. So Because
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 02:16 PM
Oct 2012

I have been here four years, donate religiously, but have less than 10,000 posts, I am less trustworthy than someone who has a requisite post count and it makes them more credible?

REP

(21,691 posts)
116. Locking
Sat Oct 13, 2012, 03:10 PM
Oct 2012

Better suited to Meta. Please consider reposting.

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