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brooklynite

(94,534 posts)
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:17 AM Mar 2021

When will Rita Hart give up her pipe dream of winning IA-2?

The votes were counted.

The voters were certified.

The Republican candidate was seated in the House.

If we're going to hold Republicans responsible for attempting to overturn the results of the Presidential election, we can't do the same for a House candidate on our side.

Editorial: A bad step

When Rita Hart announced she was going to appeal her historic 6-vote loss to Rep. Mariannette Miller-Meeks to the U.S. House of Representatives, we objected.

Even though we endorsed Hart, it was our belief that Iowa elections ought to be settled in Iowa, not by politically-conflicted bodies far away from Iowans and their interests. But instead of going to the state Supreme Court to air her election challenge, Hart went directly to the House, which is controlled by her own party.

The Constitution clearly gives the House the right to seat its own members, but commonsense, our history and our values demand that the people decide.

We know Rita Hart, and we believe her pursuit is to get an accurate count. We also are sure Miller-Meeks believes she fairly won this election and is rightly the 2nd District representative.

https://qctimes.com/opinion/editorial/editorial-a-bad-step/article_a6454e4f-99c2-55d6-b3e1-dc6829eabace.html


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When will Rita Hart give up her pipe dream of winning IA-2? (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2021 OP
I'd definitely like her to take it to the Iowa Supreme Court jimfields33 Mar 2021 #1
She did not pursue it in the courts, there is no case. The election is certified by the state. tritsofme Mar 2021 #7
Meeks knows she won an unfair election... JT45242 Mar 2021 #2
Okay then? atreides1 Mar 2021 #3
I would like to know why the 20 or so votes weren't counted dsc Mar 2021 #4
I saw a list ... JT45242 Mar 2021 #8
OK so in my mind it would get down to dsc Mar 2021 #9
Fuck That, Sir The Magistrate Mar 2021 #5
Wow greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #6
Marc Elias: "Don't believe GOP spin, read all of the briefs in the #IA02 contest for yourself." hlthe2b Mar 2021 #10
Conceding that she's proceeding in a lawful, good-faith effort gratuitous Mar 2021 #11

jimfields33

(15,793 posts)
1. I'd definitely like her to take it to the Iowa Supreme Court
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:22 AM
Mar 2021

Let’s see how that turns out and then go from there. Even if it’s full of trumpers, at least exhaust all state election processes are and then perhaps go to the house.

tritsofme

(17,377 posts)
7. She did not pursue it in the courts, there is no case. The election is certified by the state.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:42 AM
Mar 2021

She instead filed her dispute with the House directly under the Federal Contested Elections Act.

JT45242

(2,269 posts)
2. Meeks knows she won an unfair election...
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:23 AM
Mar 2021

There is a reason that the election board did not certify those last twenty something votes, because if this were a fair election and ALL votes counted, the democrat would have won.

Once again, ashamed that I moved to iowa. Grassley, Ernst, Covid Kimmy, and an election board that won't count all the votes.

If anyone wants to see what the georgia voting law and the similar one in the iowa legislature are going to do should just look at this election. The Republican leaders will not certify all the vote...just the ones that they are likely to get.

This paper makes me sick.

atreides1

(16,078 posts)
3. Okay then?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:34 AM
Mar 2021

You've named several of the biggest aholes, but you failed the acknowledge the 500 pound gorilla in the middle of the room...the VOTERS!!!

Why do the voters always get the free pass?

dsc

(52,161 posts)
4. I would like to know why the 20 or so votes weren't counted
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:11 AM
Mar 2021

something that no account I have read has made at all clear. That said, she should exhaust her Iowa options before the House even thinks of getting involved.

JT45242

(2,269 posts)
8. I saw a list ...
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mar 2021

About half fall into the category that the outer envelope that is required in Iowa was not sealed or not signed.

Two of the votes were cast by people who dies after they voted but before the election, which should be counted.

Another group are missing a postmark or were delivered by the post office after the deadline with a proper postmark.

There were also 5 or 6 provisional ballots that the people did not verify address status in time.

dsc

(52,161 posts)
9. OK so in my mind it would get down to
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:03 AM
Mar 2021

were other ballots that had the same deficiencies of the ones in groups 1,3, and 4 counted or not? If they weren't then neither should these, if they were, then these should.

hlthe2b

(102,247 posts)
10. Marc Elias: "Don't believe GOP spin, read all of the briefs in the #IA02 contest for yourself."
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:03 AM
Mar 2021
"The position of Contestee Miller-Meeks and the Republican Party is now clear: the right to vote is worthy of neither respect nor protection."

Don't believe GOP spin, read all of the briefs in the #IA02 contest for yourself.


I personally have no position on this, given I have not followed it sufficiently closely, but I DO believe Marc Elias is one whose opinion bears consideration


gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
11. Conceding that she's proceeding in a lawful, good-faith effort
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:13 AM
Mar 2021

The Quad City Times nevertheless says that Rita Hart should just give up her pursuit of an accurate count. Well, isn't that what the Times, indeed all Iowans, should want? But Hart and Iowa should give up on getting an accurate count of all legal ballots because Mariannette Miller-Meeks believes she fairly won the election? That makes no sense. That's precisely the specious reasoning the Supreme Court used to take the Bush v. Gore case, that the Bush campaign's claim to have won was basis enough to stop examining the ballots in Florida and award the state and its electoral votes to Bush without going to all the trouble and bother of following Florida election law.

If Miller-Meeks truly won, she should be as eager to get an accurate count of all legal ballots as Hart is.

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