EDIT: So what do you think now of the presidential prospects of Governors Cuomo and Newsom?

[Hekate]

This time last year I was watching Gov Cuomo trying to inform New Yorkers about the pandemic, while incidentally engaging the whole nation with his emotional capacity, genuine ethnic folksiness, intelligence, and heart. He talked about his family in very relatable ways.

This time last year I was tuning in to my own Governor Newsom’s broadcasts as he tried to keep us abreast of California’s efforts to deal with the catastrophe. He’s really bright, and I like that, and he’s a Democrat so we know where he stands on the important issues, but he’s a technocrat, so while not cold, he lacks the folksiness of the guy from New York.

Over time, hubs and I started assessing the two men as presidential candidates, post-pandemic. I bet a lot of other people were doing the same.

What do you think their prospects are now?

Second question on edit:

Do you think there's a co-ordinated take-down campaign against Democrats?

In my OP I didn’t specify that for hubs and me, neither was our #1 choice — we were just thinking popular opinion across the country. Trump was giving us nothing but lies and snake-oil at the time, if you recall. These two Democratic governors were in the forefront with truth.

[Ocelot II]

1. Somewhere between slim to none, but I don't think they were ever that good.

[leftieNanner]

2. I think Newsom might have a possible shot at it

More than Cuomo. Cuomo's toast IMHO.

But there are a lot more capable Dems out there whom I would choose over either one of them.

[PoliticAverse]

3. Cuomo? Zilch. New Yorkers don't even want him to run for re-election. n/t

[Hekate]

4. Edited OP

[Beastly Boy]

5. A tad lower than Kamala's

Yeah, I know, I am a master of stating the obvious.

[Scrivener7]

6. I con't think Cuomo ever said anything about running for president, did he?

His dad was totally beloved and NYers begged him to run, but he wouldn't. I remember speculation that the mother's (Mario's wife's) family was connected, and she was ashamed of that, and they didn't want to embarrass her by having it come out.

[Hekate]

8. I know, but if we were wondering, so were others. To whose advantage is it to make sure he can't? Nt

[PoliticAverse]

7. There's a campaign to take down Cuomo in New York....

but it is un-coordinated and consists largely of other Democrats.

[Hekate]

10. We Dems are SO good at the circular firing squad, aren't we? nt

[uponit7771]

17. +1, the last accusation is horrible

[Sympthsical]

9. Cuomo's done. Not sure about Newsom.

I don't think the recall that will never happen with Newsom makes or breaks his prospects. He's just so . . . West Coast. It's hard to articulate. Kamala Harris doesn't have that same aura about her.

He plays well here in California, but I just don't see him gaining national traction.

I don't think the recall affects him either way. It's just one of those things that isn't going to happen. He's not well-liked here, but I don't see people scrambling to be rid of him. I do think non-Californians underestimate how much his French Laundry stunt cost him in terms of good will. Most of my Democratic friends can't wait til he's gone. They just don't want to bother about a recall.

[brooklynite]

11. Cuomo never had Presidential prospects...

...and no, there isn't a "coordinated take-down".

The Siena poll also finds voters are increasingly likely to say they will not vote to reelect Cuomo for a fourth term. Only 34% of voters said they were prepared to reelect Cuomo if he runs for in 2022, while 52% say they would "prefer someone else." In February, 46% of voters said that they vote to reelect him for a fourth term.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/03/15/politics/new-york-voters-andrew-cuomo-poll/index.html

[uponit7771]

18. This is horrible, whomever runs will be more beatable than Cuomo

[brooklynite]

12. Amazing how soon people forget Cuomo's support for the IDC Senate members...

...who gave majority control of the Senate to the Republicans. That would give a Presidential campaign a unique approach to "bipartisanship"...

[ancianita]

13. Cuomo said outright, more than once, that he has no interest in running for president.

If Newsom beats the recall, and even half way solves his state's fire and water problems, his chances could improve over time, but not in time for 2024. At that point, if Joe doesn't run, Harris would likely choose a battleground state running mate -- GA or TX, maybe?

My hubs and I were doing the same as you and yours last year. Until Cuomo outright said he'd never run. Which is just fine. I'm also fine with his just doing his job right now.

Yes, I think evidence will emerge, not from investigators, but likely through journalists, that there is a coordinated take-down campaign against Democrats.
It's what Republican dark money does.

Thank you for asking.

[Hekate]

20. Thank you for your thoughtful response...

That’s pretty much my take on it, too, at this point.

[DrToast]

14. Hopefully zero

Not interested in either one of them.

[Hekate]

15. Interesting replies, guys. Like many across the country, we don't get local nuances. Thanks.nt

[MichMan]

16. There were people posting here at one time that Michael Avenatti would be a good choice

[Hekate]

19. True, while those of us who read the Los Angeles Times got a full expose' of Avenatti early on...

...and it wasn’t pretty.