BREAKING: Feds looking beyond Florida in investigation of Rep. Gaetz, sources say

[Nevilledog]

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[malaise]

1. Oops!

You reap what you sow

[TheBlackAdder]

21. I'm waiting for the pool pics to surface. Someone must have snapped video of them, if by accident.

[DrToast]

2. It's sad that someone may have been trying to extort him

I hope they get everyone.

[SoonerPride]

5. I don't believe a word of that.

I wouldn't trust any story coming from him.

About anything.

[stopdiggin]

8. perhaps not. but one of the original writers (NYT)

was on Maddow saying that while extortion 'might' be true (thereby giving it some oxygen) -- the thrust of the investigation was far earlier -- and with a focus on different offenses.

[SoonerPride]

9. Yes, I saw Maddow. I wish they would have said "these allegations of extortion

are just distractions until proven otherwise."

He is just trying to muddy the water and I am having none of it.

I don't trust pedophiles or republicans. Not one word they say about anything is to be believed.

[stopdiggin]

14. quite obviously an attempt at deflection.

And the reporter was only allowing (without knowledge) that BOTH could be true.

(i.e. -- nobody in the room thinks Matt Gaetz is anything less than a complete skuzz-bucket -- and most likely a criminal.)

[Blue_true]

47. Some people, especially men, have a problem distinguishing a high teens

girl from a woman. Some girls that are 16 and 17 can act mature sexually, so if a man doesn’t use his big head instead of letting the little head take over, he can get involved in a one-off situation with an underaged person. When I think pedophile, I think a person that KNOWS that a person is underaged and goes ahead with the act anyway. I don’t think that 16 or 17 year olds have the mentality for adulthood, heck 18, 19 and 20 year olds frequently don’t, that is why, even beyond the moral aspects of it, an adult should not get involved with them sexually. Adults can work with them as mentors (non sexual).

[COL Mustard]

23. Please Don't Use

“Gaetz” and “17 year old woman” and “thrust” in the same paragraph......

[Blue_true]

46. A 17 year old is a girl by Florida law. nt

[COL Mustard]

50. IIRC, He Refers To Her

As a 17-year old woman.

I agree, at that age they're girls and boys.

[Blue_true]

52. Gaetz is clearly trying to muddy the distinction. nt

[stopdiggin]

54. didn't

but I take your meaning 100%.
(a very ugly picture .. no matter what verbiage is employed .. so much so that I hate entertaining thoughts ...)

[WhiteTara]

55. NYT has become even more of a disappointment

They are blatantly biased and root for the traitors and have had at least since *co.

[stopdiggin]

61. none of which has anything to do with

either this thread (other than the fact that it was the Times and their reporting that broke the story) -- or the essence of what the reporter had to say on Maddow -- which consisted of "perhaps -- but here's why it doesn't matter .."

[DrToast]

13. It's not coming from him

It’s in the article.

[Boydog]

16. Gaetz is the real time illustration for the word "jerk"

[COL Mustard]

24. He's A Backpfeifgesicht

I hope I spelled that right. My German is rusty.

[GeoWilliam750]

30. I think it possible you might mean "asshole"

The difference between a jerk and an asshole, is that an asshole means it.

[dawg day]

18. He named the person he said was extorting him....

.
. And it is someone who quit the DOJ 15 years ago... unlikely. None of it sounds plausible except that Goetz would groom minors..
Remember his "adopted" teen "son"?

[Botany]

27. And that DoJ person area of Florida did not cover Matt's area too.

n/t

[dawg day]

33. This atty represented the hostage's family

mcgee. Said that daddy Gaetz contacted him, pleasant conversation... and the supposed extorters were someone else. And no one promised to drop the case or anything. Weird, but happened last month, long after the investigation started.

[qanda]

34. Probably Trump.

[Blue_true]

48. You believe Matt Gaetz?

Also, when an attorney that represents a person reaches out to gauge the desire for a non public, that is not extortion.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Yet another Republican sex tourist?

Limbaugh, Epstein, Dersh, Trump... who else?

[Moostache]

10. Why stop with the politicians?

The Evangelical crowd of Pharisees and Sadducees is stuffed to the gilled with sexual behavior that they themselves claim to abhor...

Personally, outside of rape and child abuse or direct harm to another against their will, I do not give a shit about anyone's sexual life but my wife and myself. While some find marriage a restrictive covenant, I find it very freeing to be in a committed marriage and only in need of concerning myself with one other person's sexual fulfillment; however, like I said...to each their own within the boundaries.

These GQP perverts and criminals are very high and mighty and judgmental of all non-binary heterosexual acts IN THEORY...IN REALITY? Not so much...

At least it is consistent with their fucked up world view - "More for me, and none for thee"; which is true of all things...money, security, food, sex...just a disgusting bunch of people to their cores.

[Blue_true]

45. Word. nt

[magicarpet]

4. Gaetz/Nabbed/Gate....

Bye bye.

[Leghorn21]

6. Well, if you must, look in every state and every country in the world, sounds good to me!!!!!

[lindysalsagal]

7. If the girls crossed state lines, it comes under federal jurisdiction.

Yowsa. Your GQP family values at work.

[Sgent]

17. It also means that the

age becomes 18 regardless of individual states' age of consent (which is 16 or 17 in most of the south) if they want to charge him with sex trafficking.

[Blue_true]

44. The FEDs will have to handle it. Don't expect anything from the Florida AG.

She simply doesn’t have the character or ethics to bring down a potential republican criminal that has political connections and wealth on his side.

[FBaggins]

56. Which is why this isn't "news"... let alone "breaking"

There has to have been more than one state involved (at least allegedly) for the feds to be involved in the first place.

[uponit7771]

57. No it doesn't, the feds can get involved if he "paid" her with a ticket etc. It looks like

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... the law for trafficking minors means don't take anyone under 19 anywhere without their parents knowing first.

[FBaggins]

58. If the travel is interstate...

... then more than one state is involved.

[uponit7771]

59. Wish I could find the post but it doesn't have to be between 2 states the travel can be in the

... same state like California, for instance, to get the feds involved.

If the under age person is paid with a ticket or anything of value to travel with the adult for sexual favors or some shit.

Get parents consent first is what all that sounds like

[FBaggins]

60. Not an area of law that interests me much

But I’m pretty sure that someone has to cross state lines for the feds to have jurisdiction.

Now... I suppose that could include international travel... but this would still make the title a big “duh”.

[mzmolly]

11. How 'odd' that the R's accused Hunter Biden

of what Matt Gaetz is being investigated for.

Hmmmm.

[MontanaMama]

15. It's all projection with them.

As soon as the accusations fly, look no further than the GQP accusers.

[mzmolly]

31. Yep.

They're a shady bunch.

[JI7]

25. I have been saying that's what the Qanon thing is

THEY are the ones who are full of sexual abusers and other criminals . So they point the finger at others accusing others of what they are guilty of.

Trump always does that also.

[mzmolly]

26. Fully

agree.

[Blue_true]

43. Agree.

One only has to look at how vivid their accounts are. A normal person doesn’t think about stuff like that, QANON does, 24/7.

[SheltieLover]

12. Even more "family values?"

Shocking!

[blueinredohio]

19. If true, he'd better get time for it.

I know a 19 year old who went to prison for sexting with a 16year old.

[Blue_true]

42. In Florida the 19 year sextext person is the type the state's current AG go after.

A person that likely didn’t have resources or anyone with power on his side. That palid doorknob would not bring herself, in a million years, to take on a person that has the state level political connections and family wealth that Gaetz has.

[FlyingPiggy]

20. Is this the same guy that had the 13 y/o cuban "son" who fooled NO ONE in the history of ever?

It would not surprise me one bit if he was involved in an extensive human trafficking ring to include children.

[sarcasmo]

62. Yes.

[Grokenstein]

22. Hey, Nestor's Not-Daddy!

Maybe now would be a really good time to go back on teevee and run your mouth some more? /s

[keithbvadu2]

28. $25 million? Does his family have that much loose cash?

$25 million? Does his family have that much loose cash?

Sounds big enough to be a hoax number.

[Blue_true]

40. His dad once led the Florida Senate.

The dad left politics and co-founded an elder services company, got Medicare and Medicaid to pay for the services, grew the company and then sold it. The dad’s share of the sale was like $250 million+.

I believe that I read that the dad is now heading the ~$350 million Deep Water Horizon damage recovery fund, that is on top of running an elder housing company that provides managed care for elders (eating at the Medicare and Medicaid trough again). Republicans sure hate big government, that is when they can’t stuff their pockets from big government payouts.

[Jon King]

29. His extortion claim may have been her lawyer trying to offer a civil suit settlement...

A legal expert on MSNBC said perhaps the lawyer Gaetz says was extorting him was actually the girl's lawyer offering to settle a civil suit before she filed it.

The legal expert said that is perfectly legal to do, is not extortion in any way, and is not related to Gaetz possible crimes.

[gibraltar72]

32. Poor Matt is a victim of a gang of underage prostitutes who preyed on middle age men.

Would you believe that??

[NBachers]

35. Andrew who?

[Bristlecone]

36. Another guy that thinks he's untouchable

His lifelong privilege has him thinking he can do whatever he wants whenever he wants. No consequences. That really is what trumpism is all about.

[Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin]

37. Indeed it is.

[riversedge]

38. good to hear.

[Blue_true]

39. If Florida had something other than a lapdog AG, Florida alone would be enough to sink him.

The age of consent for a female to have sex with a male older than 19 years old in Florida is 18 years old, not one minute younger than that.

But don’t expect the total waste of an AG that Florida has to drag his ass into Court. So the FEDs will have to do the lifting on this one.

[Progressive Jones]

41. I fucking knew it !!! I knew some shit like this would come out on this guy! nt

[Blue_true]

49. The FEDs likely are taking on the extensive investigation, because the current

Florida AG won’t. She is more likely to run from such a case.

[sarcasmo]

51. If Butthead was using Tinder, Butthead used Tinder in every state he traveled.

[Nevilledog]

53. 👇

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