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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:35 AM Apr 2021

"Are They Gonna Make Us Outlaws Again? Is That What It's Comin' To My Friend?"

Despite laws passed or proposed in some states, I will give water to thirsty people whenever and wherever I encounter them. And, if an elderly or disabled person asks for a ride to the polls, I will provide it.

The desperate and vindictive Republicans in Georgia and Florida and Texas and wherever else they are in power can go to hell.

I choose to be an "outlaw".

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"Are They Gonna Make Us Outlaws Again? Is That What It's Comin' To My Friend?" (Original Post) Atticus Apr 2021 OP
same here!!..easy for me to say since I live in true blue Wash State and we are 100% mail in.. samnsara Apr 2021 #1
So, can you sell it for a penny? gab13by13 Apr 2021 #2
Something to think about Rorey Apr 2021 #16
Hope so. Hell i'd even have bluestarone Apr 2021 #35
a moment for thought please for taxi Apr 2021 #39
Tell the cop you got paid by bitcoin grantcart Apr 2021 #46
Didn't the savior they pretend to worship say: thucythucy Apr 2021 #3
Book of Mathew, I believe. ( Or, possibly, "Two Corinthians" LOL! ) nt Atticus Apr 2021 #4
Nope, not 2 Corinthians. They were friends wnylib Apr 2021 #12
The way he said it always sounded like the windup to a joke. plimsoll Apr 2021 #29
There used to be a convention soldierant Apr 2021 #55
Your post got me to thinking ChazII Apr 2021 #19
We could create test cases in the primaries; sue their ass off before the general Captain Zero Apr 2021 #36
I have mailed in my ballot ChazII Apr 2021 #47
Yes, in Matthew 25 Tanuki Apr 2021 #21
Yep, Matthew 25 is where Christ tells us we should treat Ilsa Apr 2021 #25
This needs to become a nationwide voters movement: Matthew 25: 31-46 BComplex Apr 2021 #51
I'm with you, brother! Alliepoo Apr 2021 #5
so much screaming about freedom when it comes to masks or guns. so little when it comes to bullimiami Apr 2021 #6
Indeed BigOleDummy Apr 2021 #7
Must have driver's license to drive to the polls. It's a poll tax in another form. /nt bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #8
I got a notice a month ago, gab13by13 Apr 2021 #18
Last year, too PhylliPretzel Apr 2021 #43
Hear, hear. FORTY states adding new restrictions. Disturbing. nt Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #9
I'm rid'en with ya, Atticus! pazzyanne Apr 2021 #10
It might be fun to be arrested for carrying water to a thirsty person. NNadir Apr 2021 #11
Start up a water brigade to appear wnylib Apr 2021 #17
"good trouble" (n/t) MissMillie Apr 2021 #13
I love how these GOP fuckers freak out over... jcgoldie Apr 2021 #14
Many heinous crimes have been committed in the name of religion. Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #15
Totally agree. One political word spoken from the pulpit, in the church, in newsletters...... usaf-vet Apr 2021 #22
Like WardChurchel Apr 2021 #23
+1 broiles Apr 2021 #24
And if the cops . . . . AverageOldGuy Apr 2021 #20
Averageoldguy ? Tbear Apr 2021 #28
+1000 CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #33
Welp, that seals it Piasladic Apr 2021 #44
Wow Props to you for you activism electric_blue68 Apr 2021 #60
Hear hear! ananda Apr 2021 #26
When water is outlawed only outlaws will have water. n/t Harker Apr 2021 #27
So according to this new law Percy Apr 2021 #30
You're not alone. WinstonSmith4740 Apr 2021 #31
This. Tommymac Apr 2021 #32
I'm with you!!! CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #34
You know what? bluestarone Apr 2021 #37
You are not what you are called. Only what you answer to. ancianita Apr 2021 #38
Reich Party making fascism come alive . Historic NY Apr 2021 #40
Law Don't Go Around Here Mme. Defarge Apr 2021 #41
This old timer would be happy to help anyone to the polls. Paper Roses Apr 2021 #42
A law must be reasonable Mme. Defarge Apr 2021 #45
This post was just mentioned on Thom Hartman's Sirius XM show USAFRetired_Liberal Apr 2021 #48
Someone else on DU suggested we have a priest bless the water as holy water TheRealNorth Apr 2021 #49
Ha! Love it! scarletwoman Apr 2021 #50
I really, really, really like that one. NNadir Apr 2021 #54
Love it. Great idea. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #66
I wish I lived in Georgia. Mr.Bill Apr 2021 #52
They made it against the law Sugarcoated Apr 2021 #53
It was proposed and discussed by the Republicans in the Texas legislature. They did pass a bill Atticus Apr 2021 #58
Good for you! BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #56
They know, on some level, soldierant Apr 2021 #57
Ride sharing zipplewrath Apr 2021 #59
Here is our theme song for when we go pass out food and water to exhausted voters! ShazzieB Apr 2021 #61
Oh, heck. I am not one of those "Christians" people like to talk about. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #62
I'm not either, but I was thinking the words "what would Jesus do." Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #65
Yep. I can't imagine Jesus would want the hungry and thirsty to remain PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #67
You have innate compassion so don't need someone showing you the way. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #68
This message was self-deleted by its author blitzen Apr 2021 #63
James Talley... blitzen Apr 2021 #64
Meanwhile the GOP-controlled legislature will be stealing the elections Hortensis Apr 2021 #69
I share your hope that the For The People Act can be passed and rectify the transparent voter Atticus Apr 2021 #70
So be it. One thing's sure, those of us who don't drop dead first Hortensis Apr 2021 #71
👍 nt Atticus Apr 2021 #72

samnsara

(17,658 posts)
1. same here!!..easy for me to say since I live in true blue Wash State and we are 100% mail in..
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:38 AM
Apr 2021

..but if i was in a situation to commit good trouble i would do it in a heart beat.

Rorey

(8,445 posts)
16. Something to think about
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:14 AM
Apr 2021

And maybe a penny could accidentally get dropped if a thirsty person didn't have one.

bluestarone

(17,102 posts)
35. Hope so. Hell i'd even have
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:20 AM
Apr 2021

A bunch of 1 penny iou's ready for people to sign, just in case they don't have a penny on there person. (gotta have proof you know)

thucythucy

(8,109 posts)
3. Didn't the savior they pretend to worship say:
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:41 AM
Apr 2021

"I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink'?

That was one of the requirements to becoming a follower, along with other tasks to demonstrate one's solidarity with the rest of humanity, such as feeding the hungry, giving succor to the poor, visiting people in prison, and tending to the sick.

You'd think civil disobedience in this instance would be defended by them as a matter of freedom of religion.

Of course, so many of them actually worship the Mango Mussolini instead.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
4. Book of Mathew, I believe. ( Or, possibly, "Two Corinthians" LOL! ) nt
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:45 AM
Apr 2021

Last edited Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:59 AM - Edit history (1)

wnylib

(21,732 posts)
12. Nope, not 2 Corinthians. They were friends
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:10 AM
Apr 2021

of Paul.

Definitely from the Gospels and I believe it was Matthew.

plimsoll

(1,671 posts)
29. The way he said it always sounded like the windup to a joke.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:10 AM
Apr 2021

2 Corinthians walked into a .....

English speakers would say second, I’ve never heard clergy say “two Corinthians.” That sounded like the intersection of ignorance, lazy, and a scam. That his followers lapped it up is evidence that P. T. Barnum underestimated the birth rate of suckers.

soldierant

(6,945 posts)
55. There used to be a convention
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
Apr 2021

that Arabic numerals represented cardinal number whereas Roman numerals represented ordinal numbers. that's why it is written "II Corinthians" Or "Henry VIII." That's become less rigid, but it does hang on in some things.

ChazII

(6,206 posts)
19. Your post got me to thinking
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:20 AM
Apr 2021

that the churches in the area could (should) start collecting bottles of water right now. They could start planning now for the upcoming elections and begin to map out which polling area they could serve. If they are not wearing anything political would it be okay? Like I said I need to research this topic but it seems like something that several different congregations might be able to help.

Captain Zero

(6,856 posts)
36. We could create test cases in the primaries; sue their ass off before the general
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:24 AM
Apr 2021

no waiting around on this.

ChazII

(6,206 posts)
47. I have mailed in my ballot
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:52 AM
Apr 2021

since 43 took office. I know of spots where we can drop off our mail in ballot if we choose not to mail it in. That is what I do, I drop it off.

If not churches than maybe service organizations like the Masons, Shriners, LOS or Eastern Star could pass water out to those in line. These organizations are not political.

Tanuki

(14,926 posts)
21. Yes, in Matthew 25
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:21 AM
Apr 2021
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.biblegateway.com/passage/%3fsearch=Matthew%2b25&version=KJV&interface=amp

"...31. When the Son of man shall come in his glory, and all the holy angels with him, then shall he sit upon the throne of his glory:

32 And before him shall be gathered all nations: and he shall separate them one from another, as a shepherd divideth his sheep from the goats:

33 And he shall set the sheep on his right hand, but the goats on the left.

34 Then shall the King say unto them on his right hand, Come, ye blessed of my Father, inherit the kingdom prepared for you from the foundation of the world:

35 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me drink: I was a stranger, and ye took me in:

36 Naked, and ye clothed me: I was sick, and ye visited me: I was in prison, and ye came unto me.

37 Then shall the righteous answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, and fed thee? or thirsty, and gave thee drink?

38 When saw we thee a stranger, and took thee in? or naked, and clothed thee?

39 Or when saw we thee sick, or in prison, and came unto thee?

40 And the King shall answer and say unto them, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me.

41 Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels:

42 For I was an hungred, and ye gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and ye gave me no drink:


43 I was a stranger, and ye took me not in: naked, and ye clothed me not: sick, and in prison, and ye visited me not.

44 Then shall they also answer him, saying, Lord, when saw we thee an hungred, or athirst, or a stranger, or naked, or sick, or in prison, and did not minister unto thee?

45 Then shall he answer them, saying, Verily I say unto you, Inasmuch as ye did it not to one of the least of these, ye did it not to me.


46 And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal.

Ilsa

(61,710 posts)
25. Yep, Matthew 25 is where Christ tells us we should treat
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:38 AM
Apr 2021

each other as we would treat him; that good things we do for each other are good things done to/for Christ. Here we learn how to create and live in a kind society, with empathy and generosity. Be a sheep, not a goat.

Of course, much more is in those scriptures.

BComplex

(8,082 posts)
51. This needs to become a nationwide voters movement: Matthew 25: 31-46
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 02:14 PM
Apr 2021

Actually, that needs to become a nationwide Demoratic party movement symbol!

T-shirts, posters, jewelry, baseball caps, protest signs.

Send all those phony "evangelicals" that vote against humane treatment running for the hills.

bullimiami

(13,112 posts)
6. so much screaming about freedom when it comes to masks or guns. so little when it comes to
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 08:52 AM
Apr 2021

voting, a womens body, helping another person in need.



gab13by13

(21,482 posts)
18. I got a notice a month ago,
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:19 AM
Apr 2021

here in Pa. asking if I wanted to vote by mail again this year. This year to vote by mail I had to provide my driver's license number.

PhylliPretzel

(141 posts)
43. Last year, too
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:47 AM
Apr 2021

PA folks had to provide drivers' license info last year, too. It is an easy way to provide the verification that a person is indeed a PA resident over the age of 18 and therefore entitled to vote. Also includes your signature for comparison to returned ballot, if necessary Shuts up those damn Republican voter fraud claims!

P.S. The Lt. Gov of Texas still hasn't paid our Lt. Gov. the $3M he offered for evidence of voter fraud. Yeah, 3 Reps in PA voted in the name of others; no Dems.

wnylib

(21,732 posts)
17. Start up a water brigade to appear
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:15 AM
Apr 2021

at polls throughout Georgia.

Or, offer people lemonade. The law specifically says water doesn't it?

jcgoldie

(11,656 posts)
14. I love how these GOP fuckers freak out over...
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:11 AM
Apr 2021

Vaccine passports robbing them of their freedom and then pass a law against giving people fucking water.

Lonestarblue

(10,146 posts)
15. Many heinous crimes have been committed in the name of religion.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:12 AM
Apr 2021

All religions. But the Christian religion has been right at the top, from burning so-called witches at the stake to the Crusades to the Spanish Inquisition to the murder and torture of Irish Catholics and on and on. And today’s far-right white evangelicals are just as bloodthirsty. Many of them bleat about their loss of religious freedom when it is their ability to force everyone else to follow their rules, based on nothing but bias and arrogance, that they have lost.

I will borrow from Grover Norquist and apply his comment on government here to the intolerant religious right: May their religious extremism be reduced to a size that can finally be drowned in a bathtub. I am not anti-religion because I don’t care what other people believe so long as their beliefs do not infringe on the rights of others or get inserted in secular government in any way—and so long as my tax dollars are not supporting them. The megachurches that rake in millions tax free come to mind as a right-wing religious organization that needs to be taxed. If they’re going to get involved in politics, as they have, they should no longer be tax exempt.

usaf-vet

(6,232 posts)
22. Totally agree. One political word spoken from the pulpit, in the church, in newsletters......
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:24 AM
Apr 2021

..... etc. Say goodbye to your tax-exempt status.

AverageOldGuy

(1,564 posts)
20. And if the cops . . . .
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:21 AM
Apr 2021

After I give water to people or give someone a ride to the polls, if the cops want to sit on my neck for 8 minutes and 46 seconds, or, pull a Bull Connor and turn their dogs loose on me, then, have at it.

I'm in my late 70's and am past giving a goddam about Republicans and their oppressive laws.

As a college student in Alabama in the 1960's, I was bitten by Bull Connor's dogs and knocked over by his firehoses. And we won.

Remember: “First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
https://apnews.com/article/2315880316

Tbear

(488 posts)
28. Averageoldguy ?
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:49 AM
Apr 2021

This is anything but average:
“ As a college student in Alabama in the 1960's, I was bitten by Bull Connor's dogs and knocked over by his firehoses. And we won. ”
Nicely done sir.

electric_blue68

(15,000 posts)
60. Wow Props to you for you activism
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 05:33 PM
Apr 2021

The infamous Bull Connor, and his lackeys. My goodness!

Was a little too young to be watching the nightly news but saw the TV images a few years later.

Percy

(721 posts)
30. So according to this new law
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:11 AM
Apr 2021

can the person accepting the water be arrested too? For participating? Or are the perceived more like the victim of assault?

WinstonSmith4740

(3,059 posts)
31. You're not alone.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:12 AM
Apr 2021

I'm in Vegas, so none of those problems are here, but I'm only a couple of hours from Arizona, and chance are they're going to try. Hell, yes! I'll be there.

bluestarone

(17,102 posts)
37. You know what?
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:25 AM
Apr 2021

The scary part is that there are actually a BUNCH of these same QTHUGS that would do what Chauvin did, to STOP us from voting! ( i really believe this)

Paper Roses

(7,475 posts)
42. This old timer would be happy to help anyone to the polls.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:37 AM
Apr 2021

Shame on any state that restricts the right to vote, no matter how they word it. This direction is UN-AMERICAN!

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
49. Someone else on DU suggested we have a priest bless the water as holy water
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021

Then, we can blame Republicans for attacking religious freedom

Mr.Bill

(24,354 posts)
52. I wish I lived in Georgia.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 03:15 PM
Apr 2021

Sounds like the food and drinks in line at the polls are going to be excellent!

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
58. It was proposed and discussed by the Republicans in the Texas legislature. They did pass a bill
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 05:25 PM
Apr 2021

that will restrict voting, but I do not know if that restriction---primarily aimed at stopping the transporting of the elderly or disabled from "sheltered care" facilities---is in that just-passed bill.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,575 posts)
56. Good for you!
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:18 PM
Apr 2021

An admirable sentiment, and I'm sure legal issues would come to naught. I can't see a case reaching court and having a guilty verdict.

soldierant

(6,945 posts)
57. They know, on some level,
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:22 PM
Apr 2021

that if they don't act to make us "outlaws," their behavior will make them "outlaws" in the eyes of all decent people. I suppose it's a kind of projection.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
59. Ride sharing
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 05:29 PM
Apr 2021

The GQP is going to find themselves at odds with the whole Lynx/Uber legal concept of "ride sharing" once elections come around. Imagine democrats creating a "ride sharing" app for people wanting to get to the poles. The GQP would be loath to develop one and the democrats could use one to get people to the poles. The GQP are already at a disadvantage because they don't know how to develop an "Act Blue" type vehicle.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,926 posts)
62. Oh, heck. I am not one of those "Christians" people like to talk about.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 10:13 PM
Apr 2021

But I do know that things like giving water to thirsty people is the right thing to do.

Irish_Dem

(47,721 posts)
65. I'm not either, but I was thinking the words "what would Jesus do."
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 01:21 AM
Apr 2021

Giving food and water to people in need would be on the list.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,926 posts)
67. Yep. I can't imagine Jesus would want the hungry and thirsty to remain
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 05:36 AM
Apr 2021

hungry and thirsty.

I am not myself a follower of Jesus, but I am someone who thinks basic human compassion is paramount. We are here in life to help one another. That's my essential belief. So giving food and water to those who need food and water is essential, a base imperative.

Irish_Dem

(47,721 posts)
68. You have innate compassion so don't need someone showing you the way.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 11:36 AM
Apr 2021

I always think of Jesus as a teacher, showing people the road to a civilized society.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
69. Meanwhile the GOP-controlled legislature will be stealing the elections
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:11 PM
Apr 2021

as necessary -- because their power grab gives them the ability to override any unfortunately ethical public servants who get in their way.

Hopefully, our For the People Act combined with court challenges will stop their planned elections-based takeover.

If worst comes to worst, thank you in advance for your plan to oppose. But it might be a lot more dangerous at that point than you realize. If we can't stop it, this would be happening in many states, and the next step when RW authoritarians seize power is establishing control by smashing resistance.

The rule of law as we know it would of course be suspended. Who knows when or if you might be released or what charges might be trumped up against you? And I think we should assume none of us would be able to discuss any of it here.

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
70. I share your hope that the For The People Act can be passed and rectify the transparent voter
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:40 PM
Apr 2021

suppression the Republicans are enacting. I think we will find a way to accomplish that. But, if we don't------

I will not permit them to take away my empathy and decency. If that gets me arrested, so be it. I honestly believe I will have lots of like-minded company.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
71. So be it. One thing's sure, those of us who don't drop dead first
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:45 PM
Apr 2021

will live with whatever comes. This is our time to protect what we inherited from those who came before.

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