One bad apple spoils the barrel.

[AndyS]

The whole barrel.

Like, every damn apple in the fucking barrel.

So, Police Officers, if you don't like being painted with that broad brush, stop covering for the BAD APPLE.

If a fellow cop holds racists beliefs, you know it and you know HE AIN'T YA' BROTHER.

If a fellow cop trades sex for a traffic ticket HE AIN'T YA' BROTHER.

Get the fuck over it and clean up your house.

You know who they are. You know what to do.

[FakeNoose]

1. It's time to do away with police unions

Just sayin'

[Roy Rolling]

5. Rethink this

It isn’t the union, it’s the union members. But I’m sure there could be lots of Republican support for police reform if it included destroying police unions.

Collective bargaining is a good thing, but can be corrupted by members and officers alike. Police unions are doubly susceptible.

[AnrothElf]

11. Police unions are fraternal orders

More closely related to the Freemasons, or the KKK, than to the AFLCIO

I won't carry their water. You shouldn't either.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

21. Some cops are members of AFL-CIO affiliated unions.

[BobTheSubgenius]

18. I am pretty hardwired to support unions.

I understand the valid complaints, but I'm much more inclined to support fixing the issues instead of throwing out the baby with the bath water.

[SheltieLover]

2. Absolutely!

Well stated!

[BComplex]

3. Some places the good apples would have to start a whole new police department

which might not be a bad idea, but probably impossible given the structure of politics.

There needs to be a nationwide hotline for cops who want to clean out their ranks.

[CaliforniaPeggy]

4. Well said!

[plimsoll]

6. They seem to be unable to police themselves,

So honesty would require all people to wonder if how "equal protection" when we know that equal enforcement is not.

[patphil]

14. That's been true for as long as I can remember.

There has always been this different standard between how cops treat people in general as opposed to how they treat other cops.

Bad apples only exist because no one is willing to remove them from the barrel.

[Politicub]

23. The police institution is corrupt. That makes anything, including unions, that

prop it up need to be reformed along with policing itself.

[uponit7771]

7. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾, there needs to be a system for rooting them out. These people USUALLY have bad

... reports and relationships with communities and that in and of itself should be a tell tale.

[Evolve Dammit]

8. It is pervasive according to my experience with friends in law enforcement. National problem. nt

[2Old2Rock]

9. Qualified Immunity is the problem.

Tax payers foot the bill for police misconduct. They need to lose their boats, cars, and homes. Things would change quickly.

[3Hotdogs]

10. + 1.

Also, Unions are protected by the 1st Amendment's right to assemble and petition.

[stopdiggin]

26. QI is one part.

But there is misconduct, and lack of accountability -- that never come anywhere near charges being brought or a court docket. LE (and unions) need to be willing to confront plain old corruption and bad character within the ranks as well.

i.e. - not every uniform needs to be a boy scout or alter boy -- but that doesn't mean we have to tolerate skinheads, Nazis and sex-for-favors scum either.

[RockRaven]

12. The bad apple excuse invokers never seem to understand apples.

The point of the saying is that the bad apple must be removed/excised IMMEDIATELY and aggressively and without mercy to protect and preserve the rest.

Ripening/rotting apples release ethylene gas, which... causes other apples ripen/rot. The issue is not merely a taint by association, or disgust with the proximity of good apples to filth. It is a propagating self-destruction. It requires proactive intervention, or the whole mass is soon rotten too.

Anyone who calls a cop a bad apple is admitting that the proper and necessary response -- based on the metaphor they chose to use -- is for other cops to report him, arrest him, charge him, and testify against him, and lock him away. Because if they don't, they are ultimately just as rotten.

[AndyS]

15. ++++++++! 👍

[uponit7771]

20. +1

[llmart]

24. +1000

[pwb]

13. They circle the wagons no matter what.

That is the reform we need. Behavioral reform.

[trof]

16. OK, but what if the BARREL is spoiled?

Then what?

[The Magistrate]

17. Hear Hear, Sir

Perhaps the cure would be to require an arrest record for members of a civilian review board, whose word on firing was absolute, and whose recommendation of indictment must be acted on by the local state's attorney....

[discntnt_irny_srcsm]

19. But there is another kind of evil which we must fear most, and that is the indifference of good men.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

22. The barrel itself is what's bad. The system can't be reformed.

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Abolish it.

[Martin68]

25. Exactly!