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sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:26 PM Apr 2021

The Killing of George Floyd.

Last edited Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:07 AM - Edit history (1)

The testimony coming out the past few days is both heartbreaking and damning. The tears of the witnesses and grief they felt made me cry.

Yesterday the firefighter said she begged the officers to let her see to him. To give him medical attention. She pleaded with them.

Genevieve Hansen, an off-duty Minneapolis firefighter who called 911 after witnessing George Floyd's arrest, gave eyewitness testimony in the early days of the trial of Derek Chauvin.

Hansen can be seen and heard in bystander video calling for police to check Floyd's pulse and give him medical attention. In her frantic 911 call, she told the operator that she "literally watched police officers not take a pulse and not do anything to save a man."


"There was a man being killed," Hansen said. "I would have been able to provide medical attention to the best of my abilities. And this human was denied that right."


https://www.kare11.com/article/news/local/george-floyd/derek-chauvin-trial-george-floyd-minneapolis-firefighter-genevieve-hansen/89-bb729c0a-7697-4314-a7d8-d825d0ce362c


Then today. The paramedic. His testimony, ya that made me cry as well. Read it! The paramedic was the ONE THAT TOOK THE CUFFS OFF GEORGE FLOYDS HANDS.

George Floyd was dead by the time medical help arrived, a paramedic testified.

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Derek Smith, the paramedic, said that he had first felt Mr. Floyd’s neck for a pulse while police officers were still on top of him and that he could not find one.


Prosecutors continue to question Derek Smith, one of the paramedics who treated George Floyd, who describes his unsuccessful efforts to revive him in the ambulance. “He’s a human being, and I was trying to give him a second chance at life,” he said.


Derek Smith, one of the paramedics who responded to George Floyd's arrest, described his rush to treat him. "I had to take the handcuffs off," he said. The police officers helped load Floyd onto a stretcher, but were also in Smith’s way at one point, he said. “I wanted to get my patient to my rig as quickly as possible so I could begin my resuscitation efforts.”

https://www.nytimes.com/live/2021/04/01/us/derek-chauvin-trial-live#george-floyd-emt-paramedics


They murdered him in cold blood. Then they blocked everyone that tried to come to his aid and possibly revive him. Cold, very cold blooded murder.

Will they jury only focus on his drug addiction or will they see it for for what it is, cold blooded murder. Chauvin took pleasure bouncing on his, Georges neck for over 9 minutes. His blank expression is one of a psychopath.
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MerryHolidays

(7,715 posts)
1. This will truly tell us if we are a nation of law or a nation of something else.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:45 PM
Apr 2021

I listened to the trial on the radio, and sometimes I let my younger daughter listen too on the way to/from school. I am devastated, furious, and in shock, all at the same time, when I hear what went on.

What we saw last May was horrific, but what we are hearing now puts in a context where those who killed Mr. Floyd are far below any sentient being on this planet.

I hope that this is not what the USA has become.

sheshe2

(83,728 posts)
3. I have only listened to some of the testimony.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:17 AM
Apr 2021

What I heard devastated me.

I have my hopes and fears that we are or not a just nation. I guess we shall see what comes about. I want to believe. I want to believe it will be justice.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
2. Back in the early 70's I toted around my Minolta SLR.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:09 AM
Apr 2021

One night I took a slight telephoto shot of a traffic stop with Tri-X ASA 400. Pretty grainy photo. Now, everyone has the ability to take quality videos at the drop of a hat and all interactions with law enforcement should be recorded. Because you never know.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
4. I think Chauvin is going down, realizing one holdout could hang the jury.
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:47 AM
Apr 2021

Christ, even if Floyd had to be restrained, it’s impossible to rationalize the 8 minutes and 46 seconds. Don’t care about anything else, like drugs. Chauvin crushing his neck for that long is impossible to explain with the video as proof. It’s possible he gets convicted of manslaughter, but acquittal is beyond comprehension.

If somehow the jury hangs, I think/hope these prosecutors will keep trying Chauvin.

Think of all the poor victims who died without video to support their case.

speak easy

(9,231 posts)
5. Al Sharpton's Eulogy
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 12:59 AM
Apr 2021

(Excerpt)

George Floyd’s story has been the story of black folks because ever since 401 years ago, the reason we could never be who we wanted and dreamed to being is you kept your knee on our neck.

We were smarter then the underfunded schools you put us in, but you had your knee on our neck. We could run corporations and not hustle in the street, but you had your knee on our neck. We had creative skills, we could do whatever anybody else could do, but we couldn’t get your knee off our neck. What happened to Floyd happens every day in this country, in education, in health services, and in every area of American life, it’s time for us to stand up in George’s name and say get your knee off our necks. That’s the problem no matter who you are.

We thought maybe ... it was just us, but even blacks that broke through, you kept your knee on that neck. Michael Jordan won all of these championships, and you kept digging for mess because you got to put a knee on our neck. White housewives would run home to see a black woman on TV named Oprah Winfrey and you messed with her because you just can’t take your knee off our neck. A man comes out of a single parent home, educates himself and rises up and becomes the President of the United States and you ask him for his birth certificate because you can’t take your knee off our neck. The reason why we are marching all over the world is we were like George, we couldn’t breathe, not because there was something wrong with our lungs, but that you wouldn’t take your knee off our neck.

And then there's this :tears:

I was reading and kept thinking about how I was a little embarrassed because when I heard that George, at this point of suffering, this brutal attack, call for his mama. I said, to attorney Crump I said, “Well, I appreciate talking to his brothers and them on the phone, but I want to talk to his mother.” He said, “His mother passed.” I said, “His mother passed? But he was calling for his mother.” And I thought about it because I was raised by a single mother.

Sometimes the only thing between us and our conditions was our mothers. Sometime the only thing that we had that would take danger away was our mothers. The only ones that would make sure the food was on the table was our mother. I know why George was calling for mama. But then as I had got that all placed in my mind and I realized why I was always calling and my mother died eight years ago, but I still try to talk to her. Sometimes just dial her cell phone to hear the voicemail on her phone that I never cut off. I still want to reach out to mama.

But talking to Quincy last night, one of his five children, Quincy said, “I was thinking maybe he was calling his mother. Because at the point that he was dying, his mother was stretching her hands out saying, ‘Come on, George, I’ll welcome you where the wicked will cease from troubling. Where the weary will be at rest. There’s a place where police don’t put knees on you George. There’s a place that prosecutors don’t drag their feet.’ Maybe mama said, ‘Come on, George [come home]'.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/reverend-al-sharpton-eulogy-transcript-at-george-floyd-memorial-service

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
8. I wouldn't be able to be on the jury,
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 01:12 AM
Apr 2021

I'd be a total mess, a basketcase. I'd have to bring my own supply of tissues since there wouldn't be enough.

speak easy

(9,231 posts)
9. From Al Sharpton's Eulogy
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 01:18 AM
Apr 2021

I was reading and kept thinking about how I was a little embarrassed because when I heard that George, at this point of suffering, this brutal attack, call for his mama. I said, to attorney Crump I said, “Well, I appreciate talking to his brothers and them on the phone, but I want to talk to his mother.” He said, “His mother passed.” I said, “His mother passed? But he was calling for his mother.” And I thought about it because I was raised by a single mother.

Sometimes the only thing between us and our conditions was our mothers. Sometime the only thing that we had that would take danger away was our mothers. The only ones that would make sure the food was on the table was our mother. I know why George was calling for mama. But then as I had got that all placed in my mind and I realized why I was always calling and my mother died eight years ago, but I still try to talk to her. Sometimes just dial her cell phone to hear the voicemail on her phone that I never cut off. I still want to reach out to mama.

But talking to Quincy last night, one of his five children, Quincy said, “I was thinking maybe he was calling his mother. Because at the point that he was dying, his mother was stretching her hands out saying, ‘Come on, George, I’ll welcome you where the wicked will cease from troubling. Where the weary will be at rest. There’s a place where police don’t put knees on you George. There’s a place that prosecutors don’t drag their feet.’ Maybe mama said, ‘Come on, George [come home]'.

https://www.rev.com/blog/transcripts/reverend-al-sharpton-eulogy-transcript-at-george-floyd-memorial-service

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
10. I heard his mom was dead and I had the same idea...
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 01:30 AM
Apr 2021

that he was calling to let his mom know he was joining her. The video shows that he peed a bit as he was dying (which is common) so I know he knew he was dying. His body was shutting down and he was reunited with her. I am crying just thinking about it.

I was reading about Lincoln and when he died he had a peaceful smile on his face which people had never seen before. Four people who were there said they all witnessed the same thing. Lincoln was finally at peace. I hope George is with his mom and at peace too.

speak easy

(9,231 posts)
11. I'm not sure about the afterlife,
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 02:39 AM
Apr 2021

but I hope he will get an opportunity to see us, see how things turned out, and know that his life was not wasted.

BigmanPigman

(51,584 posts)
12. I don't believe in it either but you never know...
Fri Apr 2, 2021, 04:39 AM
Apr 2021

If there is a way for him to see his death wasn't in vain, I hope that is what he is witness to. That cop better land in jail!

I am an atheist but weird stuff happened after each of my two dogs died. I heard/saw stuff like they were still here and one time my last baby went to my dad (who passed away a year earlier). After that happened in 2002 I decided something happens after you die but I am not sure what it is.

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