Rep. Jim Clyburn Unloads On Sen. Joe Manchin For Opposition To Voting Rights Bill

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Rep. Clyburn told HuffPost:

“Since when do their rights take precedence over your fellow Democrat Warnock, who saw his state just pass laws to keep him from getting reelected?” he asked. “And you’re going to say it’s more important for you to protect 50 Republicans in the Senate than for you to protect your fellow Democrat’s seat in Georgia. That’s a bunch of crap.”

….snip...

“I’m insulted when he tells me that it’s more important to maintain a relationship with the minority in the U.S. Senate than it is for you to maintain a relationship with the minority of voters in America,” Clyburn said in an interview. “That’s insulting to me.”

Rep. Clyburn is correct. Manchin is choosing to oppose voting rights and democracy for all in the name of a fantasy realm of bipartisanship in the Senate that hasn’t existed for generations. One suspects that Joe Manchin’s position has less to do with bipartisanship and is more related to him maintaining his seat in increasingly dark red West Virginia.

Jim Clyburn is bluntly putting the choice out there.

Republicans are never going to vote for protecting and expanding voting rights. The party’s stated mission is to make it more difficult for non-Republicans to vote. Manchin is choosing to side with Republicans and Democrats need more people like Rep. Clyburn to turn up the heat on him by telling it like it is.

https://www.politicususa.com/2021/04/01/jim-clyburn-joe-manchin-voting-rights.html

[PA_jen]

1. Good for Rep Clyburn.

[4Q2u2]

2. Given the Choice

Of a Republican or Republican lite. Voters will pick the Republican every time.
Joe is saving nothing. This is how we got into trouble in the first place.
Give people a real difference and make a real difference. That is how you win.

[hot2na]

14. Exactly. Manchin is reenacting the folly of the Liebercrats

The Blanche Lincolns, Joe Liebermans, Harold Ford Jrs., Heath Shulers and the rest of them nearly ruined Obama's presidency. They weakened the ACA down significantly; it was still a Big F'ing Deal (as Joe Biden said), but it could have been a much, much bigger F'ing deal.

Quite frankly it was the Liebercrats that inadvertently helped create the conditions for the ascendancy of Trump. Good on Clyburn for calling Manchin on this nonsense.

[Trueblue1968]

30. CLYBURN PATRIOT As the person i'm quoting stated the Liebercrats weakened the ACA

I wonder how Sen. Joe Manchin would weaken our ACA even further.

I feel depressed when i think about what Manchin is doing. Why is he helping the GOP so often?

[quakerboy]

37. $

[BeyondGeography]

3. Excellent

[aocommunalpunch]

4. From what I read around here

This is just another example of a daily “2-minute hate”. Personally, I say crack on, but that’s because Manchin deserves pressure. I don’t bow down because he’s “the best we can get”. If voting rights are so damn important, put your cards on the fucking table. Cheers, Representative Clyburn.

[Escurumbele]

6. Correct. I don't buy that Manchin needs to cater to the people of WV, he needs to convince them

that the bills Democrats are trying to pass will benefit them, otherwise he is not doing his job, he is just trying to preserve his sit, and in my view, the way he usually votes and acts there is very little difference between him and a republican.

His job is to teach people why the bills are good for them, why they need to support Democratic ideals, why they need to turn away the republican actions and how these act against them. It seems to me he is allowing people to dictate what he does and not the other way around.

It sickens me every time he talks about "his republican friends", always catering to them when he knows very well that, at the end of the day, "his republican friends" don't give a damn about him.

[Karadeniz]

8. I also think that people like Manchin and Republicans, instead of catering to misguided

Constituents, need to get out and educate them.

[quakerboy]

38. Some of both is true

Educate and cater.

Unfortunately he chooses to try to convince the people of WV to oppose democratic ideals when they support them, and cater to them when they already to.

[speak easy]

9. I think it's fine,

appropriate pressure. I would never expect Representative Clyburn to go easy on voting rights.

But put your cards on the table, and give Mitch a heads up? Contraindicated.

[eShirl]

5. I mean, find something else to be bipartisan over

[Magoo48]

7. Not to put too fine a point on it but

I’m really getting sick of manchin’s fucking bullshit. Find leverage now and deal.
He’s a small frog hopping around the edge of the pond criticizing those with the courage to swim.

[jaxexpat]

10. Dirty energy jobs in West Virginia declined despite Trump's promise.

Media gave Trump a pass on the inevitable weakness of that stupid promise. Media is pushing for Biden to promise new jobs for those affected by dirty energy downsizing.
Manchin should be fighting back at that hypocrisy, telling his constituents the truth. Coal is as dead as the horse and buggy, as dead as the ancient life forms from which it developed. He should be working to secure West Virginian renewable energy development, displaced worker re-education and training. He should demonstrate how he and Democrats can improve the lot of Appalachia by embracing the inevitable changes coming their way.
Instead, he's stuck in FEAR MODE, the self renewing, self perpetuating rigor mortis that meets ANY progressive action in that region. He could be free of the political extortion which strangles him if he would only break free.

But really after all is said and done, the solution could well be that those people just need to move out and let someone else take over their land. I hear the Cherokee Nation might be interested.

[spanone]

11. ⭐️K&R⭐️

[notKeith]

12. DC needs to become a state ASAP...

...before Manchin removes his Dem body suit and mask and becomes the Republican he actually is.

[Maraya1969]

34. If we could do that we could tell Manchin to fuck off. And Sinema.

[Historic NY]

13. Which side are you on Joe...

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[mopinko]

18. funny. i had an alderman named joe when i started the farm.

he turned on me after many years of "friendship" and support. of him.

i used to walk around the farm singing that song.

[murielm99]

23. I remember Joe.

I ran into him drinking all alone in Springfield, during the state fair. That was the year Pelosi was our keynote speaker at the brunch.

I hope we can get back to having the brunch again soon. Damn covid!

[mopinko]

24. i remember that. he's def still drinking.

he sent an email trying to hit me up for money a few months ago. i told him- drop dead. him-you first. it went downhill from there. obviously drunk at 10 am.

so, i'm looking for paid political work if you know anyone. between the plague and my alimony drying up, i need some cash.
total package including a great venue at my farm and home.
1-1 as campaign guru.

[murielm99]

25. I will let you know if I hear about any work.

We have a tendency to hire only downstate Democrats around here.

[mopinko]

27. well i did run a successful campaign in dupage.

not exactly downstate, but...

[murielm99]

28. We are north of you, buy still considered downstate.

It is either Chicago, or downstate. LOL

Check some more in DuPage. The Democrats are a growing presence there.

[Hotler]

15. But, but, but, but, but, weeeee neeeeeed himmmmmmm.

He's a dick.

[NewHendoLib]

16. Bravo. The sooner we don't "need" DINO Joe, the better. DC Statehood ASAP!

[PortTack]

17. I saw Amy K and Al Franken interviews regarding this, and both pretty much said the same

That some form of HR1/S1 will pass. Neither give lip service lightly. Klobuchar didn’t lay any specifics but was firm in her conviction, as was Franken.

Senate rules I believe is where it will go, and from what I’ve read the filibuster is essentially unconstitutional. I’m trusting our dem leaders.

[iluvtennis]

19. Wow, thank you Rep Clyburn for speaking the truth!

[rickyhall]

20. Either way, this is probably Manchin's last term.

[zaj]

21. I really don't see this as productive.

I respect that Clyburn is both speaking out for his constituents and speaking from his heart.

But he framed it in 2 ways that won't help him in his mission.

1) The voting rights of all Americans are threatened by attacks on democracy.

2) HR1 is designed to protect 250 years of American democracy from being destroyed and being rigged by a few billionaires. It's an aanti-oligarchy bill.

3) If you want to pressure Manchin and the other GOPers, you don't frame this as a party-loyalty issue. It needs to be an "All American" issue. GOP voters need to be pissed that their senators aren't supporting it.

4) For the same reason, it also doesn't help to frame this as a minority-rights issue. While it might be exact that, this approach makes it seem like it's "special rights". That won't Manchin voters in West Virginia or the 10 GOP senators that Manchin is trying to work with.

6) Red meat to the base Dem voters won't move the needle on this for Dems. It might make it even worse.

[Bluesaph]

39. Thank you for this post

This is the type of information we need to hear. Do we want the red meat or do we want positive results? Framing framing framing.

Read George Lakoff.

[patphil]

22. I can't see Manchin's logic here.

Doesn't he realize that West Virginia will probably pass a similar law, and that could result in his defeat in his next election? I'm sure he realizes that Republicans control both houses of the West Virginia legislature, and the Governor's Office. He's already in a very tenuous position since he won in 2018 with less than 50% of the vote, and Trump took the state big time in 2020.
So, I can't understand his reluctance to support this bill.
And even worse, defeat of this bill will allow all those Jim Crow laws to stand, and that will guarantee that the Republicans will take back both houses of the Congress in 2022. Any Democratic initiated legislation fro that point forward will be stillborn.

The Republicans have no intention of working with Democrats on anything...ever! That should be clear. Working with them is a worthless waste of time.
Manchin needs to listen to Clyburn and stand tall for the passage of this bill.

[BobTheSubgenius]

26. I surely understand the issue from Clyburn's POV and fully agree...

...but I'm also quite conflicted by the "80% support is better than 0" position. It's quite a conundrum, and one I'm inclined towards the latter. If the Democrats had a majority in the Senate, this wouldn't be much of a decision.

[OnDoutside]

29. "more related to him maintaining his seat in increasingly dark red West Virginia." Nonsense. WTF is

wrong with the media ?

1 Republicans in WV are bringing in Voter Suppression laws to reduce Manchin Voters

2 HR1/HR4/S1, protects Manchin from those Voter Suppression laws.

3. How hard is it to see this ?

[LymphocyteLover]

31. Hope this has the desired effect... no idea what works on this guy (Manchin)

[Faux pas]

32. Kickin' with gusto!

[Cozmo]

33. God, I am so tired of Manchin I could scream

[TigressDem]

35. Remember Norm Coleman? He was a DINO - DEM in name only

Then he showed his true colors and joined the crazy party

https://www.nytimes.com/1996/12/20/us/speculation-follows-st-paul-mayor-s-switch-to-republicans.html



Think Manchin is also a DINO

[colsohlibgal]

36. Get With It Joe

If you’re going to be a Democrat act and vote like one.

If I were Biden I’d twist his arm till he comes around.