Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News Editorials & Other Articles General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

Nevilledog

(55,081 posts)
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:25 PM Apr 2021

AZ GOP Senator proposes state-sponsored camps, possible jail for homeless



Tweet text:
FreeRangeChicken
@chicken_range
Arizona is quickly becoming the worst state.

AZ GOP Senator proposes state-sponsored camps, possible jail for homeless
Arizona legislators are considering a bill that would drastically change how the state handles its unsheltered homeless population.
abc15.com
8:12 AM · Apr 3, 2021


https://www.abc15.com/news/rebound/coronavirus-money-help/az-gop-senator-proposes-state-sponsored-camps-possible-jail-for-homeless

Arizona legislators are considering a bill that would drastically change how the state handles its unsheltered homeless population.

House Bill 2668 has several provisions that include:

*the creation of state-sponsored homeless camps that unsheltered people would be required to camp in

*and a requirement that cities with more than 50,000 people who with homelessness numbers that are above the state average, must set aside between 10 and 50% of public safety grants provided by the state for outreach.


Joan Serviss, executive director of the Arizona Housing Coalition said outreach—which is already aggressively done by cities—is not the problem.

“What's missing is that there's not enough shelter beds, and we don't have enough affordable housing,” Serviss said.

The bill also includes the threat of criminal charges for sleeping on state-owned land.

*snip*
29 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
AZ GOP Senator proposes state-sponsored camps, possible jail for homeless (Original Post) Nevilledog Apr 2021 OP
Fascist. nt Hotler Apr 2021 #1
Because the homeless are guilty of being poor. nt joetheman Apr 2021 #23
NO. The repugs nt. Hotler Apr 2021 #24
Why not just make them slaves? AZ8theist Apr 2021 #2
This moron hasn't done his homework, obviously. Other states have tried this, finding out that SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #3
My very first thought was debtors prison. Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #11
Same. "Workhouses" was the first thing that sprang to mind. Ugh. nt crickets Apr 2021 #19
All Christians are true Christians. If they do not follow Mathew 25: 35-40, marie999 Apr 2021 #15
My deep deep sorrow and condolences to you and yours. Too bad you had to run into a pastor SWBTATTReg Apr 2021 #20
Lemme guess this GQP senator is a CINO "christian" in name only MagickMuffin Apr 2021 #4
Christians in name only sanatanadharma Apr 2021 #14
Not getting what you are saying re: Chinos. A pair of men's slacks? Chinese people? Sorry... Hekate Apr 2021 #22
Why stop at jail? Tracer Apr 2021 #5
Why even stop there? The sky's the limit when you're a fascist maniac. There Carlitos Brigante Apr 2021 #8
There was a strong arm government in middle Europe Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #6
No Food To Eat, No PLace To Shelter Me. Apr 2021 #7
Barbara Bush would say since they have nothing, this will work out fine for them. Why waste our SammyWinstonJack Apr 2021 #29
The ABC story really buries the lede gratuitous Apr 2021 #9
Why not just build dorms? Deminpenn Apr 2021 #10
How about using them for medical experiments? Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #12
"Are there no prisons?" Bristlecone Apr 2021 #13
AZ is the state of sheriff Joe Arpaio, who tortured prisoners and got away with it for a long time DSandra Apr 2021 #16
It seems to me that Republicans mostly believe in the stick, the use of force and terror DSandra Apr 2021 #17
How Xtian malaise Apr 2021 #18
"Sanctuary Cities" Mad_Machine76 Apr 2021 #21
Exactly this...... Takket Apr 2021 #28
This is crazy and dangerous scarytomcat Apr 2021 #25
How about camps for anti-vaxxers? roamer65 Apr 2021 #26
so you take someone struggling with homelessness... Takket Apr 2021 #27

AZ8theist

(7,377 posts)
2. Why not just make them slaves?
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:30 PM
Apr 2021

It's what the Nazi Repukes want....
Declare them non-human.

My disgust and ABSOLUTE HATRED for all things "Republican" knows no bounds.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
3. This moron hasn't done his homework, obviously. Other states have tried this, finding out that
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:32 PM
Apr 2021

jailing these unfortunate persons (OR Debtors Prison in short)...is NOT the way to handle this.

Moron. Absolute inhuman moron. I would say 'not Christian' behavior, but since the 'Christians' accepted rump and his filthy grubby fingers under the table groping at you know what, this is apparently acceptable 'Christian' behavior now, and its awful hard now-a-days to determine what truly Christian behavior is.

 

marie999

(3,334 posts)
15. All Christians are true Christians. If they do not follow Mathew 25: 35-40,
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:44 PM
Apr 2021

they are not Christians. My husband are I are Jewish but we try to live by it. We buried our daughter yesterday. We had a pastor our family knows because there aren't any rabbis here. He asked us why we tried to follow what Jesus said in Matthew since we were Jewish. We said that Jesus was Jewish. The service was as nice as any service we had ever attended.

SWBTATTReg

(26,257 posts)
20. My deep deep sorrow and condolences to you and yours. Too bad you had to run into a pastor
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 05:21 PM
Apr 2021

such as the one you described, though...during your time of sorrow.

Hugs to you all.

MagickMuffin

(18,318 posts)
4. Lemme guess this GQP senator is a CINO "christian" in name only
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:34 PM
Apr 2021


As these people who claim all these ridiculous titles are not who they want you to see. The titles are only to blind those you can see, but we are on to you and we see through you.


CINO's!


sanatanadharma

(4,089 posts)
14. Christians in name only
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:33 PM
Apr 2021

Better labeled as Chinos to highlight the common racism and jingoism among Chinos (or CHinos)

Hekate

(100,133 posts)
22. Not getting what you are saying re: Chinos. A pair of men's slacks? Chinese people? Sorry...
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 06:11 PM
Apr 2021

It must be obvious to you, but I’m missing the reason why CINO, like DINO and RINO, is not a sufficient acronym.


 

Carlitos Brigante

(26,848 posts)
8. Why even stop there? The sky's the limit when you're a fascist maniac. There
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:57 PM
Apr 2021

has to be a way to turn them into fuel.

Dawson Leery

(19,568 posts)
6. There was a strong arm government in middle Europe
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:41 PM
Apr 2021

that did this 80 years ago. See where the GOP is going?

Me.

(35,454 posts)
7. No Food To Eat, No PLace To Shelter
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:54 PM
Apr 2021

let's see how we can make their lives even more miserable.

SammyWinstonJack

(44,316 posts)
29. Barbara Bush would say since they have nothing, this will work out fine for them. Why waste our
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021
beautiful minds thinking about it.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
9. The ABC story really buries the lede
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:57 PM
Apr 2021

You have to go a dozen or more paragraphs into the story to find out that the heartless bastard behind this is Senator David Gowan, who isn't available for comment. Probably too busy crafting a companion bill to declare homeless persons fair game and designate a season for hunting them.

David Gowan is an asshole.

Deminpenn

(17,506 posts)
10. Why not just build dorms?
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 12:58 PM
Apr 2021

Lived in a dorm at college. Back then, it was just a room with a bed, desk, bookcase and closet and a commual bathroom with showers. Make one of the rooms an office for one or more social workers, one for a small medical clinic and another for a permanent resident who can be trained and trusted to handle emergencies. It would be a place that's safe and clean. There would be jobs available to residents to cook, clean, do maintenance and so on. I'm sure this would be far cheaper than the mishmash of services and left hand not coordinating with the right hand we have now.

Or as CA is doing, tiny house communities?

Link: https://www.newyorker.com/news/california-chronicles/can-micro-real-estate-developers-help-solve-the-homelessness-crisis

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
12. How about using them for medical experiments?
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 01:07 PM
Apr 2021

Or anything else those GOP MOFO'S would like. This is disgusting. Yeah, lets imprison those you made homeless. GOPNAZI

Bristlecone

(11,111 posts)
13. "Are there no prisons?"
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:13 PM
Apr 2021

“And the Union workhouses? Are they still in operation?”

“The Treadmill and the Poor Law are in full vigour?"

“I was afraid, that something had occurred to stop them in their useful course,” said GOP Rep. “I’m very glad to hear it.”


(Paraphrased and edited by me of course.)

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
16. AZ is the state of sheriff Joe Arpaio, who tortured prisoners and got away with it for a long time
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:45 PM
Apr 2021

I’ll let these excerpts from an NPR article in 2009 tell more:

Since he became sheriff in 1993, Arpaio has exploded the number of inmates in the county — not by jailing dangerous criminals but by imprisoning undocumented workers, most of whom are not yet convicted of a crime but are awaiting trial. When he filled up the jail cells, to avoid hurting his popularity by spending taxpayer money, he built tents in the middle of the Arizona desert, where temperatures can reach up to 130 degrees. He deprived the inmates of basic necessities and reduced the meals to two per day while cutting the cost of each meal to 30 cents. He boasts that "it costs more to feed the dogs." Under such conditions, inmates are always hungry and have suffered drastic physical repercussions; one teenager reported losing 50 pounds since he was incarcerated.


Denigration and mental abuse have also reached new and surreal heights. The best example is the number of occasions on which he has marched hundreds of undocumented migrants, chained together, through the streets and the desert — in front of the media. One time, the sheriff forced a group to march wearing only pink underwear and flip-flops. He also formed female chain gangs.

- https://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=112296948


Arizona Republicans are among the top Republicans wanting a fascist / nazi state.

DSandra

(1,719 posts)
17. It seems to me that Republicans mostly believe in the stick, the use of force and terror
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:54 PM
Apr 2021

They think people should be influenced by scaring, the threat and use of force and terror and humiliation and suffering. They don’t even believe in influencing society successfully through persuasion, rather “it’s my way or the highway because I said so! I declare that God has deemed what I say to be the truth and fact!” These idiots and insensitive creeps are really unfit for human civilization.

malaise

(296,114 posts)
18. How Xtian
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:56 PM
Apr 2021

Feed them in prison rather than provide for the homeless - these are fucking monsters

Takket

(23,715 posts)
28. Exactly this......
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 10:59 AM
Apr 2021

drumpf was heading for this........ he just didn't have enough time to get it implemented on a national level. But that won't stop states from trying it.

If any of you DUers have access to star trek DS9 (it is on netflix, paramount+, hulu, amazon prime, youtube tv) go to season 3 episodes 11 and 12.

and weep for how close the dystopian image of the mid-2020s America is approaching...

Takket

(23,715 posts)
27. so you take someone struggling with homelessness...
Sun Apr 4, 2021, 10:49 AM
Apr 2021

and you saddle them with a criminal record they need to put on all their job applications, and lock them up so they can't even look for work? And now you are making the taxpayer cover all the expenses to imprison that person when you could be giving them a housing voucher for FAR less? HOW STUPID ARE THESE PEOPLE???????????????

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»AZ GOP Senator proposes s...