Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:23 PM Apr 2021

NJ Gov Going After Georgia's Corps to Relocate

I laughed my head off when I heard this: Gov. Murphy, our terrific Democratic progressive governor, is going after Georgia corporations.

He sent a letter to Netflix, Disney, and Warner Bros that said:

"If you are looking to expand, relocate, or consolidate, we respectfully invite you to come experience all that the Garden State has to offer, including our shared values of protecting the constitutionally granted rights of our citizens."

Here's a link to the article: https://www.northjersey.com/story/news/new-jersey/2021/04/02/nj-gov-phil-murphy-tax-breaks-companies-leave-georgia/4850716001/

Calling Georgia laws 'Jim Crow 2.0,' Phil Murphy dangles NJ tax breaks to film, TV companies

and a few snips:

The Democratic governor sent a letter Thursday to major production companies, including Walt Disney Co., Warner Bros. and Netflix, offering up to 40% in subsidies.

Murphy sent his letter two days after he signed early voting into law — with Georgian activist and former gubernatorial candidate Stacey Abrams — which he has been touting all week.

In the letter, which was obtained by the Trenton bureau of the USA TODAY Network Atlantic Group, Murphy presented New Jersey as a progressive contrast to Georgia.

snip

I love it that my governor is taking advantage of Kemp et al and their blow to the voting rights of the citizenry. However, there is a leftie think tank here that doesn't think it's such a great idea. It quotes studies that say that these types of tax incentives don't pay out all that well. An example is "studies in two states with film tax credits that showed "a terrible return on investment for taxpayers." In Louisiana, the state got back 36 cents for every dollar spent on tax credits; Massachusetts saw an even lower return, 14 cents for every dollar. "

Still, it is a return. Just not a great return. I wonder what other types of incentives would be better to lure these companies away.

12 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
1. Bad idea. Race to the bottom. Voting rights shouldn't be a matter of "the best bid."
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:36 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Sat Apr 3, 2021, 03:34 PM - Edit history (1)

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
2. It's not a race to the bottom
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:44 PM
Apr 2021

It's just not a great investment. Read the latter part of the article and the progressive institute explains it more than I was able to do with my legal # of snips.

It's a long shot. I think the best thing it's doing is aggravating Kemp, which is priceless.

PSPS

(13,594 posts)
3. Corporate welfare "subsidies" are always a bad investment. Offering more is a race to the bottom.
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:48 PM
Apr 2021

stillcool

(32,626 posts)
4. good idea. Race to the top...
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 02:54 PM
Apr 2021

if you to be in a good environment for your business and all your employees.

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
8. wouldn't that
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 03:51 PM
Apr 2021

require all states to form some sort of commitment to no tax breaks? How would that work?

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
10. the governor is progressive
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 03:54 PM
Apr 2021

not necessarily the tax breaks. I think what you are confusing is that Murphy is doing it to put pressure on Kemp and if he were to get a corporation to move (that isn't going to happen), it would be great. But that won't happen.

It's a pressure move on behalf of voting rights.

spooky3

(34,444 posts)
11. McAuliffe (D-VA) courted NC corps after their
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 05:13 PM
Apr 2021

Legislature passed the bathroom bill. Republicans should be able to see this coming by now.

NJCher

(35,662 posts)
12. Not new tax breaks, same as Georgia's
Sat Apr 3, 2021, 05:15 PM
Apr 2021

Just heard a story on the radio. The NJ tax breaks are already in place, and are similar to Georgia's. I wanted to clarify that.

What he's saying to companies: you'd have the same tax breaks but be in a state that respects the right of people to vote.

BTW this week early voting was passed in NJ.

And one more btw: I have never waited more than minutes to vote in NJ and I've been voting here for decades, every single election. I have never seen a line to vote in any neighborhood, nor have I ever seen a story about lines to get to vote.

Latest Discussions»General Discussion»NJ Gov Going After Georgi...