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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:01 PM Apr 2021

Any 'legal experts' here? A question about the Derek Chauvin trial in Minnesota

When the TV camera shows the defense table, Chauvin is sitting there with a yellow legal pad on the table and he is writing on the pad.
It appears he is writing on it all through the trial.

Sometimes he's sitting there with the pen 'poised' above the pad,
but not writing anything.

What's he doing?

I think I heard or read some years ago that attorneys have the defendant do that so they appear involved in the trial
as opposed to just sitting there.

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Any 'legal experts' here? A question about the Derek Chauvin trial in Minnesota (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 OP
Seems to me it would be expected for him to be making notes about... LAS14 Apr 2021 #1
I am not a criminal lawyer but this appears to be a defense trick to mislead the jurors LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #2
Since you're *not* a criminal lawyer, you don't know what defendants do. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #6
Several criminal defense attorneys on MSNBC has made the same obseration LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #7
Sigh qazplm135 Apr 2021 #8
He writes I am Fucked over and over. pwb Apr 2021 #3
Mostly, it's usually the defendant writing down questions. MineralMan Apr 2021 #4
Of course he's taking notes, and of course he's involved in his trial, Ocelot II Apr 2021 #5
We were watching and noticed that he always seemed to be writing at the VERY bottom of the pad. Treefrog Apr 2021 #9
I Always Set My Clients Up With A Pen And Paper ChoppinBroccoli Apr 2021 #10
In the Chauvin case ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #11
I Faux pas Apr 2021 #12

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
1. Seems to me it would be expected for him to be making notes about...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:02 PM
Apr 2021

... things to tell his attorney in "rebuttal" to what he's hearing?

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,168 posts)
2. I am not a criminal lawyer but this appears to be a defense trick to mislead the jurors
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:03 PM
Apr 2021

The concept is that this keeps the jurors from focusing on the defendants reactions to testimony by giving the defendant something to do while listening to damaging testimony

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
6. Since you're *not* a criminal lawyer, you don't know what defendants do.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:37 PM
Apr 2021

It's not a trick; he's writing down comments and questions, including info he knows and that his lawyer might use on cross-examination.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,168 posts)
7. Several criminal defense attorneys on MSNBC has made the same obseration
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:06 PM
Apr 2021

Paul Butler and others have made this same observation

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
8. Sigh
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:56 PM
Apr 2021

No it's not a defense trick.
It has many purposes.

The accused has access to information that might help an attorney

It gives the accused control.over something in the proceedings that will determine the rest of his or her life

It keeps the accused focused and limits outbursts or facial expressions or even appearing bored or uninterested.

None of that is a "trick"

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
4. Mostly, it's usually the defendant writing down questions.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:06 PM
Apr 2021

The defense attorney needs to be listening to the testimony, so writing keeps the defendant from interrupting that.

Ocelot II

(115,681 posts)
5. Of course he's taking notes, and of course he's involved in his trial,
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 12:35 PM
Apr 2021

not just pretending. His ass is on the line; he could get 10-40 years in prison, which is an especially unpleasant place for police officers.

 

Treefrog

(4,170 posts)
9. We were watching and noticed that he always seemed to be writing at the VERY bottom of the pad.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 01:59 PM
Apr 2021

Finally we saw him writing at the top, but it’s odd. Always seems to be at the bottom.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,784 posts)
10. I Always Set My Clients Up With A Pen And Paper
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 02:03 PM
Apr 2021

Many times witness testimony spurs a thought that they need to convey to you (their attorney), and it's important that I hear the witnesses' testimony. I can't have them in my ear while I'm trying to listen, so I always tell them to write it down and slide it over to me.

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