What keeps people from using Word to make a counterfeit Vaccination card? nt

[LAS14]

[MineralMan]

1. Nothing.

It's not an official document, nor is it a standardized form.

[Ms. Toad]

20. The FBI disagrees with you.

https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330

[MineralMan]

23. I doubt very much that anyone who would fake one of those

would be very concerned about that mild warning. The FBI has far more important things to do.

So, my answer is correct. There is nothing really to prevent someone from making such a fake record. Now, if they use it in an illegal way, that might be cause for an investigation by law enforcement, but such investigations would be very unusual, really.

[Ms. Toad]

25. Not my point -

you said the cards were not an official document nor standardized.

They are both. The FBI's statement indicates they are official documents (i.e. the use of the logo on the card is prohibited, because it is the official logo of the CDC and not authorized for private use.) As to being standardized - it is a standardized governmental form, as indicated by the version date of the form & the form number on the back side.

I don't believe I suggested that the warning would prevent anyone intent on creating a fake from soing so.

[Stallion]

26. Mild Warning? The Cited Statute Provides for Felony Punishable by 5 Years Imprisonment

btw the way they catch you is the illegal use of the CDC seal in the upper right hand corner.

[inwiththenew]

32. Isn't that the same punishment for pirating a movie

5 years, $250k fine which is why there is almost no piracy we all know.

[Johonny]

39. I agree

Most places didn't even enforce the pandemic shutdowns and mask ordinances. They have done nothing to prevent people from jumping the vaccine queues. I assume very little policing of vaccine cards will occur. There is no teeth in any of this.

[Mariana]

2. Nothing. Just like any other vaccination record. nt.

[C_U_L8R]

3. Y'know what else a fake vaccine card doesn't stop?

Getting sick with COVID. What are people thinking?

[Hugin]

31. +1

Job one.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

4. Nothing. People fake all sorts of documents.

[Siwsan]

5. I just got an AARP post about just this topic

Fake COVID-19 Vaccination Cards Put Public Health at Risk

Twitter, Shopify and eBay are being taken to task by top U.S. law enforcement officials who say the platforms are being used to sell blank or fake COVID-19 vaccination cards to consumers across the country.

The attorneys general from 41 states, three territories and Washington, D.C., wrote to the CEOs of the three companies on April 1, saying, “The use of your platforms to disseminate the deceptive marketing and sales of fake vaccine cards is a threat to residents of our states."

The letter comes after a blunt warning this week from the FBI, which stated, “If you make or buy a fake COVID-19 vaccination record card…you are breaking the law.”

Warning letters sent to CEOs
The letters were sent to Jack Dorsey, CEO of Twitter; Tobias Lütke, CEO of Shopify; and Jamie Iannone, CEO of eBay.

Only nine state attorneys general did not sign the letter, sent under the auspices of the nonpartisan National Association of Attorneys General (NAAG). Those officials are from Alabama, Arizona, Hawaii, Idaho, Indiana, Mississippi, Missouri, Montana and Texas.

North Carolina Attorney General Josh Stein, a Democrat, and Tennessee Attorney General Herbert H. Slatery III, a Republican, led the signatories.

People receive legitimate COVID-19 vaccination cards from providers when they get their shots. Those who buy a fake card can have information added to it or add details in themselves, so it appears they have been vaccinated when they have not, NAAG said in a release announcing the news.

More at:

https://www.aarp.org/money/scams-fraud/info-2021/fake-covid-19-vaccination-cards.html?cmp=SNO-ICM-FB-COVID-FRD&socialid=4700283202

[dalton99a]

8. +1

https://www.ic3.gov/Media/Y2021/PSA210330

[USALiberal]

12. Makes no sense since it is available online................

https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf

[dalton99a]

16. I doubt anyone will be prosecuted

[Stallion]

28. Under the statute is a Violation to forge, sell, buy, transfer OR USE a forged Card

so it goes beyond just printing off the card

[USALiberal]

29. Very difficult to identify a fake, just hand written info. Nt

[sir pball]

7. The dozens of readily available premade PDFs is what's stopping them

Why try and make your own probably half-assed forgery when you can find a ready-to-peint PDF with just a few clicks?

I suspect this trend will cool off once a few of these subhumans get some nice charges. I'd hope for attempted homicide but that might be a stretch...

[RobinA]

9. What Good

does a vaccination card do? I've been fully vaccinated since January and I'm still subject to the same rules as everybody else. All it bought me was peace of mind that I won't infect anybody, and for that you don't need a card. I can't travel to Europe, I can't take off the &%^$ing mask. My life is the same as it was last fall.

[LAS14]

10. I do believe, as enough people get vaccinated, perhaps when all who want to....

... are able to, that it will begin to mean something. Too early now.

[roamer65]

15. Greece is welcoming fully vaccinated travelers.

Slowly, places are reopening to the right people.

https://www.travelandleisure.com/travel-news/greece-reopening-vaccinated-travelers-summer-travel

[Ms. Toad]

22. The CDC has relaxed guidelines for people who are vaccinated.

For example - based on my parents' vaccination, my spouse and I were able (under both CDC and their retirement community rules) to visit them yesterday for 5 hours, in their home, unmasked.

Because my spouse and I are fully vaccinated, my parents are not under any restrictions as a result of our visit. Our vaccination cards were the ticket to that freedom for my parents. (Had we not been vaccinated, they would have been unable to visit friends in their homes or have meals in the dining room for 5 days.)

(And if you've only been restricting your activities since last fall, that's a pretty short restriction - yesterday is the first time in more than a year that I have been in someone's home unmasked. Including yesterday, I've now been unmasked in the presence of someone who doesn't live with me 17 times since about March 9 last year. All but 4 were for medical or dental reasons. So that should give you some sense of how cautious I am - and how much difference the vaccination card can make.)

[USALiberal]

11. Why use word, the template is online for you to print.............

https://www.dshs.state.tx.us/immunize/covid19/2020-COVID-19-shot-card-2b.pdf

[mainer]

13. How do you fake a bar code?

My vaccination card has one.

[brooklynite]

18. Mine does not. Nor does it have a serial number.

[mainer]

27. It appears only some vaccine sites stamp on bar codes.

I got mine at a major health care provider, and it has a bar code, drug lot number, etc.

My husband got his shot at Walmart and it doesn't have a barcode.

[Ellipsis]

14. It's serialized.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

21. Not all are

Mine is neither serialized nor does it have a barcode. Even if they did, they were not handing them out in any particular order, nor where they logging your name against anything. The only record that exists that I got the vaccine in Michigan is the card they gave me and the fact that I had an appointment set up. They weren't even checking our health insurance or having us fill out anything. Literally was just confirm appointment, get in line, get the shot, get your card, and leave.

[Ms. Toad]

24. The vaccine doses are -

the cards are not.

[Ellipsis]

36. They wrote the dose down on my card.

I have to think they're tracking that data to the recipient.

[Ms. Toad]

38. Correct - but faking the card itself would be trivial.

The CARDS are not serialized. The doses come from a particular lot, which is recorded. There's a pattern to the lot numbers, but those may be handwritten, affixed v. a sticker, perhaps stamped. So as long as your fake lot # matches the pattern, it would not stand out like a sore thumb if you just printed a card on the right cardstock and printed your information (including a pattern-matched lot #).

I was just disputing the assertion that the cards are serialized.

[brooklynite]

17. Nothing; templates have been circulating for more than a month.

[roamer65]

19. It should be just like a US passport card.

[Hugin]

30. I'm wondering about those people who were vaccinated before the CDC cards were rolled out?

I have two family members in that category.

I showed mine to one of them and since they were vaccinated in Jan - Feb 21 they have State issued documents. I haven't seen one, but, they are quite a bit different.

Is there somewhere or some process they can use to get the CDC like card?

[GoCubsGo]

33. Nothing, although it easy to figure out if it's fake with access to the data.

All they have to do is compare my name, birth date, and the lot numbers to know whether or not the card is real, and whether or not I was actually vaccinated. Not to mention that the CDC has a lot more information than you might realize. I don't know about anyone else, but they scanned in my driver's license when I registered. That has everything they need to know about me, including my SSN, which I did not give them, but is in the state records. At some point, it will likely be used for something more "official" and less able to be copied (i.e., a vaccination passport.)

[LAS14]

37. This is reassuring.

[lindysalsagal]

34. The ultimate, fast-forward darwinian intelligence selector: Especially since

people beyond child-bearing age can still infect and kill those who might have otherwise reproduced. If those young people are dumb enough to hang around with them.

It also selects for integrity....

Those cards put humans at the fruit-fly reproduction speed for evolution...

[JustABozoOnThisBus]

35. When I got my second Moderna shot, ...

... I was sitting at the little table waiting for the nurse to finish playing with the computer. I looked at the table, and it had some brochures about the hospital, a pile of band-aids, a pile of alcohol wipes, and a stack of blank vaccination record cards. So the blank cards are not protected like blank driver licenses or blank passports. It's just a plain cardboard form.

Sure, use Word, or Paint, or any other such app to create the card. I don't think a card will really be very effective against covid, though.