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brush

(53,776 posts)
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:20 PM Apr 2021

On Rachel just now, she announced that the Senate parliamentarian...

just ruled that the Dems can do three budget reconciliations bills this term.

Who knows why but we should just cheer and not wonder why. These bills can be passed by just a simple majority.

WooHoo!

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On Rachel just now, she announced that the Senate parliamentarian... (Original Post) brush Apr 2021 OP
and screw Joe Manchin.....🤬 🤬 🤬 a kennedy Apr 2021 #1
Huh? You do understand that we still need his vote to get to 51 for reconciliation, right? scarletwoman Apr 2021 #21
I know....just saying I for one am sick of his powers within the Senate. a kennedy Apr 2021 #26
Not just for reconciliation FBaggins Apr 2021 #29
We need all our Dems plus Kamala to make 51 IronLionZion Apr 2021 #22
Manchin is part of the script grantcart Apr 2021 #23
I read earlier that it was only one more this year. secondwind Apr 2021 #2
This is still being covered right now on Rachel. Turn on your TV. brush Apr 2021 #3
The Hill goes into detail. I find it very confusing too. I will have to digest it slowly. applegrove Apr 2021 #5
Awesome news! FakeNoose Apr 2021 #4
includes this yr and next yr til the current congress expires after mid-terms nt msongs Apr 2021 #6
:) We know why, and this is fabulous news! I'm expecting Hortensis Apr 2021 #7
Unfortunately we live under a system where individual congresscritters can block anything. UTUSN Apr 2021 #8
three total, not three more qazplm135 Apr 2021 #9
It's not this year, it's this *Congress*, and she misconstrued it a bit Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #10
In other words, we've just been given the chance to pass the infrastructure bill in two parts... brush Apr 2021 #11
The bill hasn't even been drafted yet, and I'm sure the house bill will be larger than Biden's. Nt Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #12
The point that it can be written in two parts, thereby increasing the... brush Apr 2021 #14
Yes, but Biden's two parts are likely different from the two parts that will be voted on Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #16
Everyone has their opinion of what will be in the final cuts... brush Apr 2021 #19
Here's the link. She says there are three more times. brush Apr 2021 #25
Unfortunately her senate rules expert... jcgoldie Apr 2021 #13
Choices have to be made, and maybe earmarks can be used to bring... brush Apr 2021 #18
And then we have next year! Three more bills! KPN Apr 2021 #15
Yippee 🥳 seta1950 Apr 2021 #17
Lawrence discussing it now. elleng Apr 2021 #20
If we get Infrastructure passed, wow Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #24
Here's the video for those who missed it: Rhiannon12866 Apr 2021 #27
It's understood that the initiatives and policies must bear fruit. BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #28

a kennedy

(29,658 posts)
26. I know....just saying I for one am sick of his powers within the Senate.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 03:51 AM
Apr 2021

I know we need ALL Democrats.

FBaggins

(26,733 posts)
29. Not just for reconciliation
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:19 PM
Apr 2021

his vote is also needed in order to uphold the parliamentarian's view. The parliamentarian only has power to make the decision if there are 51 votes behind her.

And he just hinted that he's not on board.

If the filibuster is eliminated or budget reconciliation becomes the norm, a new and dangerous precedent will be set to pass sweeping, partisan legislation that changes the direction of our nation every time there is a change in political control. The consequences will be profound — our nation may never see stable governing again

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
23. Manchin is part of the script
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 11:32 PM
Apr 2021

28% is way too high but 25% is fine.

I believe everyone is on the same page and on script.

Making it look middle of the road and moderate.

secondwind

(16,903 posts)
2. I read earlier that it was only one more this year.
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:22 PM
Apr 2021


Hope I am wrong, I like your numbers better!!!

Woohoo!!

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
9. three total, not three more
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:30 PM
Apr 2021

usually, you can only do one...but, there wasn't one last year so you can carry that over and do two.

What this is uses a never before used rule that lets you amend a previous reconciliation bill, using the reconciliation process.

So, in short, they can do one more reconciliation bill to make up for not doing one last year, and THEN they can amend either of those bills using reconciliation later in the year.

Basically, this just turned once a year reconciliation into twice a year reconciliation.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
10. It's not this year, it's this *Congress*, and she misconstrued it a bit
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:32 PM
Apr 2021

Each year there is a budget resolution, and this congress has two left, one for this year, and one for next year.

IIRC, the parliamentarian has ruled that, in addition to passing the budget resolution via reconciliation, they can go back and use reconciliation to add amendments to each budget resolution.

brush

(53,776 posts)
11. In other words, we've just been given the chance to pass the infrastructure bill in two parts...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:37 PM
Apr 2021

as Biden promised. And maybe this will quiet the complainers on the left for a while that the present bill is not enough.

brush

(53,776 posts)
14. The point that it can be written in two parts, thereby increasing the...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:46 PM
Apr 2021

chances of the bills, when written of course, passing since the filibuster requirement of 60 votes is bypassed and only a simple majority is required to pass.

Do you agree on that?

Fiendish Thingy

(15,601 posts)
16. Yes, but Biden's two parts are likely different from the two parts that will be voted on
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:52 PM
Apr 2021

Some of Biden’s proposals, especially some of the elder and child care bits, may not qualify for reconciliation.

jcgoldie

(11,631 posts)
13. Unfortunately her senate rules expert...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 09:41 PM
Apr 2021

Was almost certain that they could not pass HR1 with this which means you still have to circumvent the filibuster somehow for voting rights.

brush

(53,776 posts)
18. Choices have to be made, and maybe earmarks can be used to bring...
Mon Apr 5, 2021, 10:11 PM
Apr 2021

Manchin and Sinema around on HR1.

Johnny2X2X

(19,061 posts)
24. If we get Infrastructure passed, wow
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:13 AM
Apr 2021

This has a chance to be a jobs bill and infrastructure at the same time as doing away with some of the lair extreme Trump tax cuts. Amazing

Delivering fir the American people is the surest path to keep control.

Rhiannon12866

(205,320 posts)
27. Here's the video for those who missed it:
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 07:23 AM
Apr 2021
Democrats Find Crack In GOP's Filibuster Stonewall; Legislative Opportunity Doubles - Rachel Maddow
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017650193
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