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Demovictory9

(32,449 posts)
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:44 PM Apr 2021

some people are skipping the 2nd dose.

NEW YORK - The United States is now averaging more than 3 million vaccine shots every day. Even as the program is accelerating, new cases are stubbornly still on the rise.

Side effects coming with the second dose of the Moderna and Pfizer vaccines have increased so-called vaccine hesitancy. Some people are even hoping to get away with just one shot. But the National Institutes of Health is warning against stopping at one dose.

"When you just leave it at one dose, the question is, how long does it last?" Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of NIAID, said. "And when you're dealing with variants, you're in a tenuous zone."


Dr. Paul Offit, the director of the vaccine education center at Children's Hospital of Philadelphia, urges people to get both shots despite the side effects associated with the second dose.

"Although it's true the second dose can cause fatigue and fever and headache and muscle ache, it is a small price to pay to be protected against this disease for a more durable or longer length period of time," Offit said.

https://www.fox5ny.com/news/public-health-experts-urge-americans-to-not-skip-2nd-vaccine-dose

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some people are skipping the 2nd dose. (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2021 OP
Whyyyyy in the world would you stop at one dose? FlyingPiggy Apr 2021 #1
everybody with those stories... "first shot was ok, 2nd shot, my arm fell off" Demovictory9 Apr 2021 #4
Clearly that's what happened to this guy A HERETIC I AM Apr 2021 #25
Only a flesh wound... dixiechiken1 Apr 2021 #37
"Tis but a scratch! A HERETIC I AM Apr 2021 #39
because you have MFM008 Apr 2021 #6
First shot produces a lot less antibodies. LisaL Apr 2021 #7
Nope first shot alone gives you 80% protection: mucifer Apr 2021 #26
The question is, how long does one shot last and, Disaffected Apr 2021 #32
Both Moderna and Pfizer went with two shot approach for a reason. LisaL Apr 2021 #51
I'd rather deal w a sore arm than lifelong pulmonary, cardiac, or neuro complication. FlyingPiggy Apr 2021 #14
Agreed. The discomfort is minor compared to the risk of long term illness or death. crickets Apr 2021 #33
10000+ FlyingPiggy Apr 2021 #44
I had no side effects to speak of either time, but if this stupidity is widespread it certainly... Hekate Apr 2021 #2
I had bdamomma Apr 2021 #28
Next month I'll get my second dose of the shingles vax. Now THAT first dose laid me low... Hekate Apr 2021 #38
I Had No Reaction RobinA Apr 2021 #55
I'm counting the days ornotna Apr 2021 #3
+1 happybird Apr 2021 #11
+1 2naSalit Apr 2021 #20
I get my second in a week. TomSlick Apr 2021 #31
Me too. I can't wait! róisín_dubh Apr 2021 #49
I am counting the hours but ChazII Apr 2021 #21
12 for me. CentralMass Apr 2021 #23
I had fairly harsh side effects from Pfizer 2..don't care..so worth it PortTack Apr 2021 #5
I'm with you for both. 10 days into 2nd dose and still have side effects. But Biophilic Apr 2021 #15
What side effects do you still have? Which shot? wnylib Apr 2021 #43
I had the Pfizer shots. Hot flashes (which I was long ago over), fatigue, colorful and really weird Biophilic Apr 2021 #45
Oh my. What fun to look forward to. wnylib Apr 2021 #46
Yup. Plus, getting the vaccine is the right thing to do no matter what. Biophilic Apr 2021 #48
I had no side effects from either shot... llmart Apr 2021 #8
Feeling the side effects of my second shot right now Blue_playwright Apr 2021 #9
I'm on day 5 and nothing. LiberalFighter Apr 2021 #10
I'm got the j&j shot today, feel fine so far Calculating Apr 2021 #12
I can't wait to get my 2nd shot! Raftergirl Apr 2021 #13
I'm going to go shopping and... 2naSalit Apr 2021 #22
2nd Moderna Friday sir pball Apr 2021 #16
They won't take the 2nd shot, because side effects? sheshe2 Apr 2021 #17
Just bdamomma Apr 2021 #29
And think of the doctors and nurses. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #34
Selfish is the word bdamomma Apr 2021 #54
I'm no fan of Paul Offit, but I just got my second dose. mzmolly Apr 2021 #18
I felt sick after the first Moderna shot Chautauquas Apr 2021 #19
1st I had sore arm and was yucky feeling dweller Apr 2021 #24
I made sure my family got their second... VarryOn Apr 2021 #27
Team Moderna here hurl Apr 2021 #30
Maybe the J&J, one and done, should be PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #35
This!!!!! hamsterjill Apr 2021 #42
A coworker was in bed for five days from it obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #52
8 hours and counting since my #2 Pfizer. Tommymac Apr 2021 #36
My 2nd Pfizer shot is less than a week away, and ShazzieB Apr 2021 #40
get my 2nd on the 26th & no side affects. told myself -quit wimping out & suck-it up. monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #41
8 days until my 2nd Moderna shot. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #47
My first Moderna shot did all of those to em obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #50
I didn't have any side effects and neither did my friends. nt leftyladyfrommo Apr 2021 #53
A family friend had a bad reaction to the 1st dose ecstatic Apr 2021 #56

MFM008

(19,806 posts)
6. because you have
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:58 PM
Apr 2021

a terrible reaction to the first.
like physical symptoms that started when you got it and your still dealing with.
Maybe a coincidence but im not willing to take that chance.
I wont be having a second shot.

mucifer

(23,535 posts)
26. Nope first shot alone gives you 80% protection:
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021
(Reuters) - COVID-19 vaccines developed by Pfizer Inc with BioNTech SE and Moderna Inc reduced risk of infection by 80% two weeks or more after the first of two shots, according to data from a real-world U.S. study released on Monday



https://www.reuters.com/article/health-coronavirus-vaccines-int/pfizer-moderna-covid-19-vaccines-highly-effective-after-first-shot-in-real-world-use-u-s-study-shows-idUSKBN2BL2UW

I did some backflips when I read about it. Because I know a lot of people won't take the second shot.

Disaffected

(4,554 posts)
32. The question is, how long does one shot last and,
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:07 PM
Apr 2021

does it give good protection against the variants??

As doc Fauci said in the OP:

"When you just leave it at one dose, the question is, how long does it last?" Dr. Anthony Fauci, the director of NIAID, said. "And when you're dealing with variants, you're in a tenuous zone."

GET BOTH SHOTS!

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
51. Both Moderna and Pfizer went with two shot approach for a reason.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:49 AM
Apr 2021

First shot produced a lot less antibodies. It might be enough for 80 % protection, but it's not a lot of antibodies. And some variants are resistant to vaccine, so you need a lot more antibodies.

crickets

(25,963 posts)
33. Agreed. The discomfort is minor compared to the risk of long term illness or death.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:11 PM
Apr 2021

Also, just as there's no telling how long your protection will last with only one shot, there's no telling how long you are protected from infecting others, including your loved ones. People: if there is a second shot, GET IT. It will save your life and the lives of others.

Hekate

(90,648 posts)
2. I had no side effects to speak of either time, but if this stupidity is widespread it certainly...
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:47 PM
Apr 2021

..is a good reason to start pushing the single-dose vaccine.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
28. I had
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:50 PM
Apr 2021

no side effects either, J&J is a one dose vaccine. Just pure craziness, a sore arm is better than risking a life.

Hekate

(90,648 posts)
38. Next month I'll get my second dose of the shingles vax. Now THAT first dose laid me low...
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:57 PM
Apr 2021

...so I have a benchmark for “side effects” henceforth.

I would be grateful for the COVID vax even if it came at that price.

RobinA

(9,888 posts)
55. I Had No Reaction
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:49 PM
Apr 2021

to both Pfizer shots except the sore arm for about 12 hours. The second Shingrix was a bit more problematic. It wasn't horrible, I went to work, but I wouldn't schedule a big event for the next day. It took three days to be completely normal again.

ornotna

(10,799 posts)
3. I'm counting the days
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:49 PM
Apr 2021

Till I'm up for my second shot. Looking forward to it.

I don't understand the hesitation, it baffles me.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
20. +1
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:32 PM
Apr 2021

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I get mine on Friday, then I'm done! I will still self isolate and wear a mask when I go out but there will be less anxiety about it by May 1 for me at least.

TomSlick

(11,097 posts)
31. I get my second in a week.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:00 PM
Apr 2021

As I see it, any side effects mean my body is responding to the vaccine and producing the needed antibodies. Bring 'em on.

róisín_dubh

(11,791 posts)
49. Me too. I can't wait!
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:26 AM
Apr 2021

I'll end up being one of the rare 40-somethings in England who's fully vaccinated (I'm in the US, but returning to the UK soon). It will make doing "normal" things much more relaxing (obviously I'll still be masked up in public).

Biophilic

(3,646 posts)
15. I'm with you for both. 10 days into 2nd dose and still have side effects. But
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:19 PM
Apr 2021

I'd do it again in a heart beat for several reasons; my own health, my family's health, and the health and well being of my community. These things matter.

Biophilic

(3,646 posts)
45. I had the Pfizer shots. Hot flashes (which I was long ago over), fatigue, colorful and really weird
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:09 AM
Apr 2021

dreams, painful knees and hips, light headed. 10 days of life being a bit more difficult, but way better than a ventilator.

wnylib

(21,433 posts)
46. Oh my. What fun to look forward to.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:13 AM
Apr 2021

I haven't been sick with anything for a long time. Yuk.

But, as you say, better than a ventilator.

Biophilic

(3,646 posts)
48. Yup. Plus, getting the vaccine is the right thing to do no matter what.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:19 AM
Apr 2021

On the other hand a lot of people have had no or very mild symptoms. Hopefully you'll be one of those. I'm just glad to have the shot.

Blue_playwright

(1,568 posts)
9. Feeling the side effects of my second shot right now
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:04 PM
Apr 2021

😬 I feel like shit. But Covid is likely much worse. I’m happily feeling awful.

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
12. I'm got the j&j shot today, feel fine so far
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:15 PM
Apr 2021

Actually happy I got jj and not the two shot variants with more side effects

Raftergirl

(1,285 posts)
13. I can't wait to get my 2nd shot!
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:16 PM
Apr 2021

Only 3 more days.

I’m planning on 2 days of whining to H how horrid I feel.

2naSalit

(86,569 posts)
22. I'm going to go shopping and...
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:35 PM
Apr 2021

Stock up on easy as making toast foods for at least three days out. I was kind of foggy and listless after the first one. My arm only hurt for about 16 hours and I've had far more painful injuries so I can handle something that feels like a bad bruise for half a day.

sir pball

(4,741 posts)
16. 2nd Moderna Friday
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:21 PM
Apr 2021

Given my reaction to the first one, the whole package of fever/chills/aches/immobile arm, I'm not making any plans till Tuesday.

I can't wait.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
17. They won't take the 2nd shot, because side effects?
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:24 PM
Apr 2021

Seriously?

So they think COVID is a walk in the park, is the way to go and a piece of cake? You prefer intubation , a feeding tube, being flipped by four nurses every 4 hours so you can take a breath and hope it won't be your last. This is far better than a sore arm and some nausea?

I can't even.

bdamomma

(63,837 posts)
29. Just
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:57 PM
Apr 2021

craziness, geez, it's better than suffering and dying. I felt a weight is off, and I would be ready if they say you would have to get another vaccine for upcoming years like a flu shot. But there should be oral meds coming out to lessen the effects of Covid. I'm hoping.

sheshe2

(83,746 posts)
34. And think of the doctors and nurses.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:14 PM
Apr 2021

I had a face to face with my niece the other day. Both of us fully vaccinated. She is an ICU nurse and she told me of the traumas. I knew she never had proper PPE. She is to this day wearing three masks because her N95? is not medical grade. It is suppose to be worn once and she is forced to wear it a week. In the beginning she wore a rain slicker for personal protection.

These people are selfish beyond belief and never think of anyone beyond themselves.

Get over yourselves with a little discomfort. Ooooh it hurts. Yes well, dying a slow death will hurt more.

mzmolly

(50,985 posts)
18. I'm no fan of Paul Offit, but I just got my second dose.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:25 PM
Apr 2021

I feel fine. Better than I did before I got the shot.

Chautauquas

(4,440 posts)
19. I felt sick after the first Moderna shot
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:28 PM
Apr 2021

but I'm damn sure going to get the 2nd shot. Being sick for a day or two is a small price to pay to avoid Covid.

dweller

(23,628 posts)
24. 1st I had sore arm and was yucky feeling
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:38 PM
Apr 2021

for 3 days tops , then okay
2nd was slight sore arm, and barely yuck for 2 days ... nothing more
After 2 weeks visited my kids and grandkids, some of my kids and husbands had some shots, at least 1 each ... grands are babies so no shots
2 days later I had a cold 😕 that progressed quickly to losing my voice, but cleared in about 4-5 days ...
I had the Pfizer most others had Pfizer , 1 daughter had J&J.

✌🏻

 

VarryOn

(2,343 posts)
27. I made sure my family got their second...
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:46 PM
Apr 2021

And encouraged everyone else get their second.

We can't fix stupid on those that don't get anything or only part way. Its a free world.

Live and let live.

hurl

(938 posts)
30. Team Moderna here
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:59 PM
Apr 2021

I had a mild reaction to the second shot, but it was just some tiredness that hit 24 hours afterward. Went to bed early and was good as new the next morning. Arm soreness was a thing but too mild to count. The extra protection reported against variants is completely worth side effects of dose #2.

Tommymac

(7,263 posts)
36. 8 hours and counting since my #2 Pfizer.
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:27 PM
Apr 2021

I'll welcome the pain and suffering for a few hours if it happens.

Much better then breathing dirt, plus I'll have less anxiety about infecting other's close to me.

It ain't all about me.

ShazzieB

(16,370 posts)
40. My 2nd Pfizer shot is less than a week away, and
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:42 PM
Apr 2021

I can't wait to join the ranks of the fully vaccinated!

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
47. 8 days until my 2nd Moderna shot.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:19 AM
Apr 2021

Eagerly awaiting!

In science's name I declare, may science bless me and may science bless us all!

obamanut2012

(26,068 posts)
50. My first Moderna shot did all of those to em
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:37 AM
Apr 2021

I got my second yesterday morning, and took off the rest of the week just in case. So far, I'm tired and have a slight scratchy throat, but waaaaaaaaay less than after my first shot, where I slept for an almost solid day and a half.

ecstatic

(32,688 posts)
56. A family friend had a bad reaction to the 1st dose
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:17 PM
Apr 2021

My dad suggested that he skip the second dose, but he went ahead and got it anyway. Now he's incontinent and has had relentless itching all up and down his back. The point here is, follow your gut. If you have a bad reaction to the first dose, don't dig in deeper.

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