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no_hypocrisy

(46,019 posts)
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:14 AM Apr 2021

Let's say that the allegation is true that Matt Gaetz preemptively asked for a Presidential Pardon

for all possible violations, crimes, etc.

My questions:

A) Was it granted but not publicized?
B) If Trump didn't grant it, then why not?
C) Gaetz was looking for pardons for potential allegations/indictments in his past (not yet filed in criminal court). If Trump had granted him that pardon, why would he leave out Ivanka, Junior, and/or Eric?

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Let's say that the allegation is true that Matt Gaetz preemptively asked for a Presidential Pardon (Original Post) no_hypocrisy Apr 2021 OP
IMO, if Trump granted Gaetz a pardon, gab13by13 Apr 2021 #1
According to the reporting it was not granted drray23 Apr 2021 #2
d) did he attempt to bribe the prez? mopinko Apr 2021 #3
Pardon would be accepting guilt. mahina Apr 2021 #4
Not necessarily onenote Apr 2021 #7
Agreed. I wish people would retire that nonsense idea. Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2021 #9
I didn't know that, thanks. mahina Apr 2021 #12
Because going to jail himself scared the exPresident* enough his advisors were able to ... marble falls Apr 2021 #5
There were and are rumors that he did pardon all his kids n/t malaise Apr 2021 #6
there are no secret pardons. onenote Apr 2021 #8
That is good news malaise Apr 2021 #10
If there was a secret pardon, then the Biden DOJ would know. n/t FSogol Apr 2021 #11

gab13by13

(21,240 posts)
1. IMO, if Trump granted Gaetz a pardon,
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:25 AM
Apr 2021

it will turn out worse for the GQP, the Grand Q Pervert Party. Protecting a child molester isn't going to go over well with normal people who aren't zombies.

drray23

(7,615 posts)
2. According to the reporting it was not granted
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:30 AM
Apr 2021

it went nowhere. The white house aides nixed it because it was so broad it was a bit much even for the Trump whitehouse.
Thats what was reported on O"Donnel by Michael Schmidth , the New York times reporter who broke the story.

onenote

(42,536 posts)
7. Not necessarily
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:02 AM
Apr 2021

Pardons can and are granted to absolve individuals who the president declares to have been unjustly or wrongly charged or convicted.

marble falls

(56,996 posts)
5. Because going to jail himself scared the exPresident* enough his advisors were able to ...
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:56 AM
Apr 2021

... keep him from being tempted, Barr knew there was no hiding or claiming the prosecution was political, so a pardon was going to be very controversial. Maybe it was felt letting Gaetz dangle slowly in the wind would take attention away from the exPresident*.

If Gaetz had a super secret get out of jail card, now would be the time to use it. Also, he'd be subpoenaed without benefit of his 5th amendment rights if he had been pardoned for the crimes others are going to be prosecuted for.

onenote

(42,536 posts)
8. there are no secret pardons.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:03 AM
Apr 2021

Never have been.Never will be.

It would be impossible to make it stick in court.

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