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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,883 posts)
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:00 PM Apr 2021

Breyer: Expanding Supreme Court could hurt public trust

Justice Stephen Breyer on Tuesday said calls from some to expand the Supreme Court in order to dilute the current conservative majority would make the justices appear more political and damage the court's influence.

The Washington Post reports that Breyer, 82, made the remarks in a prepared speech at Harvard Law School. The justice defended the court's independence by pointing to its recent decision to decline lawsuits brought by former President Trump that sought to overturn the results of the election.

"The court's decision in the 2000 presidential election case, Bush v. Gore, is often referred to as an example of its favoritism of conservative causes," Breyer said, according to the Post. "But the court did not hear or decide cases that affected the political disagreements arising out of the 2020 Trump v. Biden election."

The court's authority depends on "a trust that the court is guided by legal principle, not politics," Breyer added.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/breyer-expanding-supreme-court-could-hurt-public-trust/ar-BB1foa9r?li=BBnb7Kz

I don't think it's going to be expanded any time soon though the number of judges has varied over the years.

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Breyer: Expanding Supreme Court could hurt public trust (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
How delusional is this about current public perception of the Supreme Court? RockRaven Apr 2021 #1
Approval of the court is in the low 40's. Dawson Leery Apr 2021 #2
what trust is left to erode? apnu Apr 2021 #3
Exactly, Sir The Magistrate Apr 2021 #11
Public trust in SCROTUS is already at an all-time low. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #4
what public trust is he referring to? agingdem Apr 2021 #5
Someone on DU jokingly suggested we cut the Court back to six seats & get rid of the last three. CrispyQ Apr 2021 #6
Agree with Breyer, expanding Court is hokey and would not play well down the road. Hoyt Apr 2021 #7
The door to retirement is thataway, Stephen gratuitous Apr 2021 #8
How about increasing it to the number of circuit courts Bettie Apr 2021 #9
That Is My Prefered Solution, Ma'am The Magistrate Apr 2021 #12
And it can be argued Bettie Apr 2021 #18
+1 crickets Apr 2021 #19
That's a helluva slogan for ice cream greenjar_01 Apr 2021 #10
Can't hurt it much worse than Fratboy Judge, Bible Judge, Gorsuch, Thomas, Citizens United, & FSogol Apr 2021 #13
Denying Obama pick, Trump ramming in three others in question, has already done that. LizBeth Apr 2021 #14
Public trust?? 🤣😂🤣🤪 Too late! NurseJackie Apr 2021 #15
Who is this guy? I thought he was one of the saner judges. ananda Apr 2021 #16
Pass HR1, add DC and Puerto Rico as states, then ram through court reform legislation Fiendish Thingy Apr 2021 #17
Breyer is an idealist andym Apr 2021 #20
What trust is he talking about? Goodheart Apr 2021 #21
Bit late for that ibegurpard Apr 2021 #22
It would be nice if Breyer proposed an actual solution MisterNiceKitty Apr 2021 #23
Breyer should retire. roamer65 Apr 2021 #24
Did he have anything to say when MoscowMitch stole Obama SC seat? malaise Apr 2021 #25

apnu

(8,754 posts)
3. what trust is left to erode?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021

The Republicans have been focused on stuffing the court with partisans since the Bork nomination. That right there shows they have no trust in the high court. Thanks to Republican court stuffing, literally everyone else has no trust in the court now that they pulled it off.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
11. Exactly, Sir
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:21 PM
Apr 2021

I have no trust at all in a court containing the likes of Gorsuch, Kavanaugh, and Barret.

agingdem

(7,840 posts)
5. what public trust is he referring to?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:10 PM
Apr 2021

other than Kagan, Sotomayor, and Breyer, the Supreme Court has devolved in an old episode of Night Court...I like Breyer but is he suffering from a neck condition that doesn't allow him to look to his extreme right??

CrispyQ

(36,446 posts)
6. Someone on DU jokingly suggested we cut the Court back to six seats & get rid of the last three.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:11 PM
Apr 2021

Repub heads would explode!

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
7. Agree with Breyer, expanding Court is hokey and would not play well down the road.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:16 PM
Apr 2021

I'd rather keep voting in Democrats to make appointments.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
8. The door to retirement is thataway, Stephen
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:16 PM
Apr 2021

Because that's some Grade A Certified Bullshit right there. The Court's decision in 2000 whisked the case out of the Florida state courts where the Gore campaign was exercising its rights under Florida law to contest the results in three counties and rendered a decision that the Court itself knew was bogus. Politics definitely won out over legal principles there as the Court bent itself to the will of the Bush campaign without any basis in the law or the facts.

But what Breyer calls "political disagreements" in the 2020 election couldn't rise to even the bogus level of Bush v. Gore. Mostly because the Trump campaign couldn't be bothered to produce any evidence to back up its whining about losing the popular vote by 7 million ballots or cite to any facts at all that supported their specious arguments.

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
9. How about increasing it to the number of circuit courts
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:16 PM
Apr 2021

That's 13, then each justice has a circuit court to oversee.

Nine was the number set when there were nine circuit courts.

The Magistrate

(95,244 posts)
12. That Is My Prefered Solution, Ma'am
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:23 PM
Apr 2021

The precedent is solid, and the number not unwieldy. Juries seat twelve, after all.

FSogol

(45,472 posts)
13. Can't hurt it much worse than Fratboy Judge, Bible Judge, Gorsuch, Thomas, Citizens United, &
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:23 PM
Apr 2021

Bush v Gore all did.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
15. Public trust?? 🤣😂🤣🤪 Too late!
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:43 PM
Apr 2021

Expanding the USSC is the only thing that will restore my trust. (That, and TERM LIMITS!!)

Fiendish Thingy

(15,568 posts)
17. Pass HR1, add DC and Puerto Rico as states, then ram through court reform legislation
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:49 PM
Apr 2021

Then Biden can add 6 new young justices to SCOTUS.

andym

(5,443 posts)
20. Breyer is an idealist
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 01:55 PM
Apr 2021

It's good to have people like him on the Supreme Court. The history of the SC clearly points to the court as being strongly influenced by the politics of the era that justices lived. The biggest problem is that the Constitution itself is a political document, grounded in the conflicting ideas and political needs of the time of its creation, so long ago. Using it as the ultimate authority in different eras with the possibility of amending it being so difficult, has and will create problems. Of course, it's not like there is a practical alternative either. To some extent we are thralls to history and its consequences.

ibegurpard

(16,685 posts)
22. Bit late for that
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:01 PM
Apr 2021

And he needs to retire so Biden can replace him with someone younger right now. We can't afford another RBG situation.

MisterNiceKitty

(422 posts)
23. It would be nice if Breyer proposed an actual solution
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:25 PM
Apr 2021

Like the one in the article below:

Just a short excerpt:
"The way to save the court is to create another one. The United States should join scores of other nations, including Germany and France, and create a specialized court to decide constitutional questions."

https://lawmagazine.bc.edu/2021/01/courting-change/

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
24. Breyer should retire.
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

We need to get younger, more progressive justices on the court.

Hopefully Thomas and Alito kick the bucket soon.

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