Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:40 PM

ansible (1,322 posts)

So is Trump ever going to prison?

Even after 1/6 happened? Seems like in only 4 months people already forgot and moved on.

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41 replies	Author	Time	Post
So is Trump ever going to prison? (Original post)	ansible	Apr 7	OP
I don't think Trump will see any prison time.	Marie Marie	Apr 7	#1
Agreed on both counts [nt]	Nexus2	Apr 8	#11
I highly doubt he goes to prison. Hope I am wrong.	Celerity	Apr 7	#2
Though there are exceptions to the rule, rich people don't go to prison	Dave says	Apr 7	#3
See: Madoff, Bernard	brooklynite	Apr 8	#24
"Though there are exceptions..."	Dave says	Apr 8	#31
No.	3Hotdogs	Apr 7	#4
I don't think so, can hope. I do think he will become more and more financially strapped	PortTack	Apr 8	#5
I'd sure love to see it	True Dough	Apr 8	#6
Melania is a lifer. Biggest mistake people make (not saying you did) is thinking that she somehow	Celerity	Apr 8	#10
I never mistook her for a caring individual	True Dough	Apr 8	#18
Rich white males don't go to prison	Demobrat	Apr 8	#7
It appears to me that this entire crime family will continue to be free as a bird forever	msfiddlestix	Apr 8	#8
Are you under the impression that prosecutors publicly share their evidence before trial?	brooklynite	Apr 8	#25
Oh, is there a trial on the docket?	msfiddlestix	Apr 8	#26
Again, that awaits completion of building a case.	brooklynite	Apr 8	#28
Are you unable to engage without condescending remarks?	msfiddlestix	Apr 8	#41
NO. nt	Raine	Apr 8	#9
I doubt it. He'll do everything to run out the clock as a free man	DFW	Apr 8	#12
This message was self-deleted by its author	LetMyPeopleVote	Apr 8	#13
trump has lawyered up	LetMyPeopleVote	Apr 8	#14
Trump can't keep any good lawyer. Lies his ass off, and fails to pay.	lagomorph777	Apr 8	#35
In America?	SoCalDavidS	Apr 8	#15
Build a wall around Merde-a-Loco?...	GReedDiamond	Apr 8	#16
Never. He will remain free the rest of his life.	Kablooie	Apr 8	#17
Lol nope.	WhiskeyGrinder	Apr 8	#19
I doubt it, but I hope otherwise.	Buckeye_Democrat	Apr 8	#20
0.0% chance he ever sees the inside of a prison cell	Johnny2X2X	Apr 8	#21
He should.	Kid Berwyn	Apr 8	#22
As has been said, rich people ..	Maxheader	Apr 8	#23
I doubt it. He won't suffer by having his lifestyle degraded, either.	Buns_of_Fire	Apr 8	#27
+1000	smirkymonkey	Apr 8	#30
Thank you. Sometimes the synapses fire, sometimes they don't.	Buns_of_Fire	Apr 8	#34
Don't rush the law's procedures	SmartVoter22	Apr 8	#29
Right now, I'd settle for him sweating it out in a courtroom.	Paladin	Apr 8	#32
He won't go to prison	Bettie	Apr 8	#33
IF he is ever charged,	sarisataka	Apr 8	#36
No he will not. nt	Autumn	Apr 8	#37
The AG and prosecutors in New York State would like to say yes	FakeNoose	Apr 8	#38
I doubt it...and it would be very hard to convict Trump of the 1/6 insurrection much less	Demsrule86	Apr 8	#39
No. Law enforcement doesn't want to deal with the Reich Wing blowback.	kairos12	Apr 8	#40

Response to ansible (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:44 PM

Marie Marie (9,845 posts)

1. I don't think Trump will see any prison time.

And I sure hope that I am wrong.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:33 AM

Nexus2 (883 posts)

11. Agreed on both counts [nt]

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Response to ansible (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:51 PM

Celerity (18,994 posts)

2. I highly doubt he goes to prison. Hope I am wrong.

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:53 PM

Dave says (3,821 posts)

3. Though there are exceptions to the rule, rich people don't go to prison

Prison is for the little guys.

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Response to Dave says (Reply #3)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:31 AM

brooklynite (69,481 posts)

24. See: Madoff, Bernard

Epstein, Jeffrey

Weinstein, Harvey

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #24)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:57 AM

Dave says (3,821 posts)

31. "Though there are exceptions..."

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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:56 PM

3Hotdogs (5,798 posts)

4. No.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:09 AM

PortTack (18,553 posts)

5. I don't think so, can hope. I do think he will become more and more financially strapped

Painfully so.. I hope. Which would be a prison to him and his ilk

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:24 AM

True Dough (11,975 posts)

6. I'd sure love to see it

I also thought Melania would leave his old ass by now.

Glad I didn't put money on it.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:29 AM

Celerity (18,994 posts)

10. Melania is a lifer. Biggest mistake people make (not saying you did) is thinking that she somehow

just tolerates Trump and isn't really a nazi fuck at heart. She is all that and more. She would have the hired help bake pies for a lynching if they came back into vogue in Florida. Plus, the slag would CHARGE the lynching crowds for the pie, in true Trumpian grifter fashion.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #10)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:07 AM

True Dough (11,975 posts)

18. I never mistook her for a caring individual

But there is plenty of footage out there of her swatting away Trump's outstretched hand, not to mention how her facial expressions betray her scorn for him.

I thought she'd bolt after the presidential run was over for the sake of not being attached to someone she clearly detests. But, maybe you're right, she might believe there's some more self-gains she can milk out of the relationship, as painful as it must be.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:54 AM

Demobrat (7,223 posts)

7. Rich white males don't go to prison

unless, like Bernie Madoff and Michael Milkin (pardoned by Trump) they cause other rich white males to lose money.

The worst that will happen is he will get hit with huge fines.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:01 AM

msfiddlestix (1,523 posts)

8. It appears to me that this entire crime family will continue to be free as a bird forever

I see a little mention about investigations in Manhattan on the tax thing... a couple of months ago the best crime boss prosecutor was hired to cross all the T's and dot the i's. Michael Cohen attended over a half dozen interviews etc etc, but everything has gone silent.

That asshole is still free to pretend he's the real president, and he'll be back in 2024! All the fraudulent fundraising. none of this shit should be going on anymore. but it is. this just cannot stand anymore, but it is.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:32 AM

brooklynite (69,481 posts)

25. Are you under the impression that prosecutors publicly share their evidence before trial?

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Response to brooklynite (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:35 AM

msfiddlestix (1,523 posts)

26. Oh, is there a trial on the docket?

No? I didn't think so.

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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #26)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:48 AM

brooklynite (69,481 posts)

28. Again, that awaits completion of building a case.

In the meantime, its not the job of the Attorney General or District Attorney to share their findings with you.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:49 PM

msfiddlestix (1,523 posts)

41. Are you unable to engage without condescending remarks?

In the meantime, kindly avoid responding to me until you learn how.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:22 AM

Raine (26,181 posts)

9. NO. nt

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:35 AM

DFW (42,312 posts)

12. I doubt it. He'll do everything to run out the clock as a free man

My hope is that he becomes such a social pariah during the rest of his life that the only places that will still cheer him at speeches will be small fundamentalist churches in small, hard-to-get-to towns in rural parts of Tennessee, Mississippi or Idaho.

If everywhere else would just shun him, that would crush him. He’d be nothing more than a well-known receptionist at Mierda Lago.

I don’t think Melania would divorce him, either. I think she will avoid being around him, like she did during his time in office (more like out of the office). But I think she probably signed a pre-nup that leaves her high and dry if she leaves first.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:00 AM

LetMyPeopleVote (93,700 posts)

14. trump has lawyered up

trump has a good criminal defense attorney lined up

Link to tweet

?s=20

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:29 AM

lagomorph777 (22,196 posts)

35. Trump can't keep any good lawyer. Lies his ass off, and fails to pay.

Lawyers don't like either behavior.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:52 AM

SoCalDavidS (3,199 posts)

15. In America?

Not A Chance

This is the DU member formerly known as sfstaxprep.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:58 AM

GReedDiamond (4,656 posts)

16. Build a wall around Merde-a-Loco?...

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:36 AM

Kablooie (16,867 posts)

17. Never. He will remain free the rest of his life.

Unfortunately.
He may have to pay some big fines but that won't be for decades because he seems to get a zillion appeals on every single charge.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:09 AM

WhiskeyGrinder (11,588 posts)

19. Lol nope.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:12 AM

Buckeye_Democrat (11,374 posts)

20. I doubt it, but I hope otherwise.

Even Hillary Clinton never mentioned prison for him. She simply stated, months ago prior to the election. that she hoped he'd be out of the White House and then spend the remainder of his life on golf courses.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:12 AM

Johnny2X2X (10,464 posts)

21. 0.0% chance he ever sees the inside of a prison cell

In America, we do not jail ex Presidents, period. Being President is basically a get out of jail free card for life.

He could face sanctions, he could face fines against his business interests, but jail will never even be on the table.

What people don't get is that jailing Trump would be like Republicans jailing Obama for some made up reason for 40% of the country. They would think of it the same way, even though here we all know Trump is guilty of hundreds of crimes and Obama none.

Can you imagine the violence in the streets if Republicans took control of the government and threw Obama in jail for no reason at all?

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:13 AM

Kid Berwyn (5,753 posts)

22. He should.

Traitor. Mass murderer. Fraud.

Never stop trying to get him where he belongs.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:22 AM

Maxheader (4,003 posts)

23. As has been said, rich people ..

and those politicos, are looked at by the law...differently...

Drive stumpy hard on past and present questionable actions.

The pos should have been in jail way before 16'....

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:45 AM

Buns_of_Fire (14,278 posts)

27. I doubt it. He won't suffer by having his lifestyle degraded, either.

He's got the resources (real and imagined) to drag this out until way past his expiration date. I picture him, lying in his overstuffed bed, checking out much like John Foster Kane did -- whispering "McChicken" as his lifeless hand falls and a Big Mac rolls across the floor.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:53 AM

smirkymonkey (58,906 posts)

30. +1000

Hilarious! You have a very fertile imagination!

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:14 AM

Buns_of_Fire (14,278 posts)

34. Thank you. Sometimes the synapses fire, sometimes they don't.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:50 AM

SmartVoter22 (581 posts)

29. Don't rush the law's procedures

You seem to be in a hurry.
Shall we not gather evidence, testimony or even check phone records?
For all those who think the Trump cases are moving too slowly for Americans to remember a crime may have been committed.
For those folks, let me apologize right here, right now...

We are so sorry that the American legal system isn't run like a McDonald's drive thru.
We try to complete entire investigations, trials and appeals within that precious 5min time frame you may be expecting.

Next time, we'll try harder to convict and imprison a potential criminal while the french fries are still hot.

While your waiting in line, at your favorite drive thru, let me provide you with some interesting, and factual information about Trump's legal case.
This link is the case that sought his tax records, which SCOTUS forced Trump, like they did with Nixon....to hand over the documents.
Enjoy the reading.
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/attorney-general-james-takes-action-force-trump-organization-comply-ongoing

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:05 AM

Paladin (23,025 posts)

32. Right now, I'd settle for him sweating it out in a courtroom.

I'm tired of the continuous reports of all the massive evidence that has been collected, concerning his wrongdoing. Let's have some action.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:12 AM

Bettie (10,970 posts)

33. He won't go to prison

he won't even face any actual consequences.

I wish I believed otherwise, but that's our system, you have the money or people perceive you as a "rich guy" you get away with everything. He could murder a bunch of toddlers on life TV and people would make excuses and there would be no charges.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:36 AM

sarisataka (11,914 posts)

36. IF he is ever charged,

It will take a couple years for the trial to start.

IF he is convicted, there will be an appeal which will take a couple more years. Repeat as necessary.

During all of this he will be free pending 'final' outcome.

So the answer to the question is- no.

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:39 AM

Autumn (40,285 posts)

37. No he will not. nt

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Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:49 AM

FakeNoose (17,775 posts)

38. The AG and prosecutors in New York State would like to say yes

However they can't charge him for the insurrection/riot in January. They're mainly focusing on back unpaid taxes, false filings and other crimes that were committed in their jurisdiction. Only Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Dept. of Justice would be able to pursue federal charges against Chump.

So it's really 2 different questions: Will NY state charges stick? Will federal action also be pursued?