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So is Trump ever going to prison? (Original Post) ansible Apr 2021 OP
I don't think Trump will see any prison time. Marie Marie Apr 2021 #1
Agreed on both counts [nt] Nexus2 Apr 2021 #11
I highly doubt he goes to prison. Hope I am wrong. Celerity Apr 2021 #2
Though there are exceptions to the rule, rich people don't go to prison Dave says Apr 2021 #3
See: Madoff, Bernard brooklynite Apr 2021 #24
"Though there are exceptions..." Dave says Apr 2021 #31
No. 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #4
I don't think so, can hope. I do think he will become more and more financially strapped PortTack Apr 2021 #5
I'd sure love to see it True Dough Apr 2021 #6
Melania is a lifer. Biggest mistake people make (not saying you did) is thinking that she somehow Celerity Apr 2021 #10
I never mistook her for a caring individual True Dough Apr 2021 #18
Rich white males don't go to prison Demobrat Apr 2021 #7
It appears to me that this entire crime family will continue to be free as a bird forever msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #8
Are you under the impression that prosecutors publicly share their evidence before trial? brooklynite Apr 2021 #25
Oh, is there a trial on the docket? msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #26
Again, that awaits completion of building a case. brooklynite Apr 2021 #28
Are you unable to engage without condescending remarks? msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #41
NO. nt Raine Apr 2021 #9
I doubt it. He'll do everything to run out the clock as a free man DFW Apr 2021 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #13
trump has lawyered up LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #14
Trump can't keep any good lawyer. Lies his ass off, and fails to pay. lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #35
In America? SoCalDavidS Apr 2021 #15
Build a wall around Merde-a-Loco?... GReedDiamond Apr 2021 #16
Never. He will remain free the rest of his life. Kablooie Apr 2021 #17
Lol nope. WhiskeyGrinder Apr 2021 #19
I doubt it, but I hope otherwise. Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #20
0.0% chance he ever sees the inside of a prison cell Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #21
He should. Kid Berwyn Apr 2021 #22
As has been said, rich people .. Maxheader Apr 2021 #23
I doubt it. He won't suffer by having his lifestyle degraded, either. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2021 #27
+1000 smirkymonkey Apr 2021 #30
Thank you. Sometimes the synapses fire, sometimes they don't. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2021 #34
Don't rush the law's procedures SmartVoter22 Apr 2021 #29
Right now, I'd settle for him sweating it out in a courtroom. Paladin Apr 2021 #32
He won't go to prison Bettie Apr 2021 #33
IF he is ever charged, sarisataka Apr 2021 #36
No he will not. nt Autumn Apr 2021 #37
The AG and prosecutors in New York State would like to say yes FakeNoose Apr 2021 #38
I doubt it...and it would be very hard to convict Trump of the 1/6 insurrection much less Demsrule86 Apr 2021 #39
No. Law enforcement doesn't want to deal with the Reich Wing blowback. kairos12 Apr 2021 #40

PortTack

(32,754 posts)
5. I don't think so, can hope. I do think he will become more and more financially strapped
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:09 AM
Apr 2021

Painfully so.. I hope. Which would be a prison to him and his ilk

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
6. I'd sure love to see it
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:24 AM
Apr 2021

I also thought Melania would leave his old ass by now.

Glad I didn't put money on it.

Celerity

(43,285 posts)
10. Melania is a lifer. Biggest mistake people make (not saying you did) is thinking that she somehow
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:29 AM
Apr 2021

just tolerates Trump and isn't really a nazi fuck at heart. She is all that and more. She would have the hired help bake pies for a lynching if they came back into vogue in Florida. Plus, the slag would CHARGE the lynching crowds for the pie, in true Trumpian grifter fashion.

True Dough

(17,301 posts)
18. I never mistook her for a caring individual
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:07 AM
Apr 2021

But there is plenty of footage out there of her swatting away Trump's outstretched hand, not to mention how her facial expressions betray her scorn for him.

I thought she'd bolt after the presidential run was over for the sake of not being attached to someone she clearly detests. But, maybe you're right, she might believe there's some more self-gains she can milk out of the relationship, as painful as it must be.

Demobrat

(8,968 posts)
7. Rich white males don't go to prison
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:54 AM
Apr 2021

unless, like Bernie Madoff and Michael Milkin (pardoned by Trump) they cause other rich white males to lose money.

The worst that will happen is he will get hit with huge fines.

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
8. It appears to me that this entire crime family will continue to be free as a bird forever
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:01 AM
Apr 2021

I see a little mention about investigations in Manhattan on the tax thing... a couple of months ago the best crime boss prosecutor was hired to cross all the T's and dot the i's. Michael Cohen attended over a half dozen interviews etc etc, but everything has gone silent.

That asshole is still free to pretend he's the real president, and he'll be back in 2024! All the fraudulent fundraising. none of this shit should be going on anymore. but it is. this just cannot stand anymore, but it is.

brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
28. Again, that awaits completion of building a case.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:48 AM
Apr 2021

In the meantime, its not the job of the Attorney General or District Attorney to share their findings with you.

msfiddlestix

(7,275 posts)
41. Are you unable to engage without condescending remarks?
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:49 PM
Apr 2021

In the meantime, kindly avoid responding to me until you learn how.

DFW

(54,334 posts)
12. I doubt it. He'll do everything to run out the clock as a free man
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:35 AM
Apr 2021

My hope is that he becomes such a social pariah during the rest of his life that the only places that will still cheer him at speeches will be small fundamentalist churches in small, hard-to-get-to towns in rural parts of Tennessee, Mississippi or Idaho.

If everywhere else would just shun him, that would crush him. He’d be nothing more than a well-known receptionist at Mierda Lago.

I don’t think Melania would divorce him, either. I think she will avoid being around him, like she did during his time in office (more like out of the office). But I think she probably signed a pre-nup that leaves her high and dry if she leaves first.

Response to ansible (Original post)

Kablooie

(18,625 posts)
17. Never. He will remain free the rest of his life.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:36 AM
Apr 2021

Unfortunately.
He may have to pay some big fines but that won't be for decades because he seems to get a zillion appeals on every single charge.

Buckeye_Democrat

(14,853 posts)
20. I doubt it, but I hope otherwise.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:12 AM
Apr 2021

Even Hillary Clinton never mentioned prison for him. She simply stated, months ago prior to the election. that she hoped he'd be out of the White House and then spend the remainder of his life on golf courses.

Johnny2X2X

(19,024 posts)
21. 0.0% chance he ever sees the inside of a prison cell
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:12 AM
Apr 2021

In America, we do not jail ex Presidents, period. Being President is basically a get out of jail free card for life.

He could face sanctions, he could face fines against his business interests, but jail will never even be on the table.

What people don't get is that jailing Trump would be like Republicans jailing Obama for some made up reason for 40% of the country. They would think of it the same way, even though here we all know Trump is guilty of hundreds of crimes and Obama none.

Can you imagine the violence in the streets if Republicans took control of the government and threw Obama in jail for no reason at all?

Maxheader

(4,371 posts)
23. As has been said, rich people ..
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:22 AM
Apr 2021

and those politicos, are looked at by the law...differently...

Drive stumpy hard on past and present questionable actions.

The pos should have been in jail way before 16'....

Buns_of_Fire

(17,173 posts)
27. I doubt it. He won't suffer by having his lifestyle degraded, either.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:45 AM
Apr 2021

He's got the resources (real and imagined) to drag this out until way past his expiration date. I picture him, lying in his overstuffed bed, checking out much like John Foster Kane did -- whispering "McChicken" as his lifeless hand falls and a Big Mac rolls across the floor.

SmartVoter22

(639 posts)
29. Don't rush the law's procedures
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:50 AM
Apr 2021

You seem to be in a hurry.
Shall we not gather evidence, testimony or even check phone records?
For all those who think the Trump cases are moving too slowly for Americans to remember a crime may have been committed.
For those folks, let me apologize right here, right now...

We are so sorry that the American legal system isn't run like a McDonald's drive thru.
We try to complete entire investigations, trials and appeals within that precious 5min time frame you may be expecting.

Next time, we'll try harder to convict and imprison a potential criminal while the french fries are still hot.

While your waiting in line, at your favorite drive thru, let me provide you with some interesting, and factual information about Trump's legal case.
This link is the case that sought his tax records, which SCOTUS forced Trump, like they did with Nixon....to hand over the documents.
Enjoy the reading.
https://ag.ny.gov/press-release/2020/attorney-general-james-takes-action-force-trump-organization-comply-ongoing

Paladin

(28,246 posts)
32. Right now, I'd settle for him sweating it out in a courtroom.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:05 AM
Apr 2021

I'm tired of the continuous reports of all the massive evidence that has been collected, concerning his wrongdoing. Let's have some action.

Bettie

(16,086 posts)
33. He won't go to prison
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:12 AM
Apr 2021

he won't even face any actual consequences.

I wish I believed otherwise, but that's our system, you have the money or people perceive you as a "rich guy" you get away with everything. He could murder a bunch of toddlers on life TV and people would make excuses and there would be no charges.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
36. IF he is ever charged,
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:36 AM
Apr 2021

It will take a couple years for the trial to start.

IF he is convicted, there will be an appeal which will take a couple more years. Repeat as necessary.

During all of this he will be free pending 'final' outcome.

So the answer to the question is- no.

FakeNoose

(32,620 posts)
38. The AG and prosecutors in New York State would like to say yes
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:49 AM
Apr 2021

However they can't charge him for the insurrection/riot in January. They're mainly focusing on back unpaid taxes, false filings and other crimes that were committed in their jurisdiction. Only Attorney General Merrick Garland and the Dept. of Justice would be able to pursue federal charges against Chump.

So it's really 2 different questions: Will NY state charges stick? Will federal action also be pursued?

Demsrule86

(68,539 posts)
39. I doubt it...and it would be very hard to convict Trump of the 1/6 insurrection much less
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:51 AM
Apr 2021

anything else. I hope he is hounded until the day he dies for his money and ends up bankrupt.

kairos12

(12,851 posts)
40. No. Law enforcement doesn't want to deal with the Reich Wing blowback.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 10:04 AM
Apr 2021

He will get away with every scam.

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