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This is a question which has been bothering me for quite some time. Although I am not a large volume poster, I wanted to put this out in hopes the group mind might have some insight.
There have been many recent studies into the question of why MAGAs and insurrectionist are so susceptible to the big lie and why they feel they must use force and violence to bring about changes in our country. This question has been asked and answered many times. But this is my question and I have never heard it asked, much less answered.
The question is simply this, If you succeed in completely removing our current government, what is your ideal replacement? What does your perfect country look like? What do you envision your place in the new order to be?
Do you want the Aryan Dream envisioned by the Nazis? Will all the white christian folks own plantations where all the libs and minorities toil for minimum compensation? Do all the MAGAs believe that our feudal oligarchs will reward them for their undying loyalty?
Some of these nightmare scenarios plague my thoughts when I hear the garbage spouted by our opponents and the RW media. But what do they imagine their paradise to be if they win? Do they really want to win or is it just never-ending grievance? Is there enough introspection and foresight in our opposition to think about the direction theyre headed? I hear what they are against. What are they for?
Just asking. Id appreciate any thoughts.
Funtatlaguy
(10,870 posts)Growing up with these folks, heres my best answer.
Have you watched the series called The Handmaids Tale?
They want to live in Gideon.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)to word things vaguely enough that you can't pin them down, but pointed enough to engage the audience.
"We're going to bring back our rights as defined in the Constitution." Sounds great to the lazy, ignorant, stupid, or "too busy" listener, and no one's going to ask just what those rights are, or how we're going to get back to them. Anyone who does just can't get heard over the noise.
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Buckeye_Democrat
(14,853 posts)... during the 2016 GOP primaries was right-wing authoritarianism.
The One Weird Trait That Predicts Whether Youre a Trump Supporter: And its not gender, age, income, race or religion.
By MATTHEW MACWILLIAMS January 17, 2016
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/01/donald-trump-2016-authoritarian-213533/
There are some simple online tests for RWA like this one:
https://openpsychometrics.org/tests/RWAS/
From Wikipedia, the following describes what RWA's want:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right-wing_authoritarianism#Attitudes
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Right-wing authoritarians want society and social interactions structured in ways that increase uniformity and minimize diversity. In order to achieve that, they tend to be in favour of social control, coercion and the use of group authority to place constraints on the behaviours of people such as political dissidents and immigrants. These constraints might include restrictions on immigration, limits on free speech and association and laws regulating moral behaviour. It is the willingness to support or take action that leads to increased social uniformity that makes right-wing authoritarianism more than just a personal distaste for difference.
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essaynnc
(801 posts)Let's say that we vote in the republican, all across the board. What does your world look like? Does minimum wage get lowered, nobody has health care, social security, any government assistance? stop paying taxes, stop environmental protections, end functioning government as we know it today? do we tell all non-white Americans to go back where they came from??? I don't get it either.
I think that this may be the bigger lie...Vote for me, I've got your best interests in mind !
JFK60
(22,976 posts)Just for starters.
Archae
(46,314 posts)And when I say theocracy, I mean fundamentalist protestants.
vlyons
(10,252 posts)They constantly claim that they want freedom, but what kind of freedom? The freedom of a terrible 2-year old, who throws a temper tantrum, when told that no, they have to eat their spinach. And no, they have to go to bed.
catrose
(5,065 posts)Voltaire2
(12,995 posts)They have been fed a diet of irrational hatred of immigrants gays libs people of color etc for 40 years. There is no agenda other than that.
brewens
(13,563 posts)Sadly, he never realized his dream.