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NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:15 AM Apr 2021

10 Things the Fully Vaccinated Need to Know

https://www.aarp.org/health/conditions-treatments/info-2021/fully-vaccinated.html

10 Things the Fully Vaccinated Need to Know
Here's what you should and shouldn't do post-vaccination, according to health experts

If it has been at least two weeks since you received your last dose of the COVID-19 vaccine, congratulations! You are now considered “fully vaccinated.” You are armed with our best weapon against a virus that has killed more than 2.6 million people worldwide and upended our lives in unimaginable ways.

That is truly something worth celebrating.

But before you toss aside your mask and throw a party, it's important to remember that the coronavirus is still spreading and the majority of Americans have yet to be vaccinated — so precautions continue to be necessary to protect yourself and the people around you.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has published some specific guidance about what the fully vaccinated can do and cannot do, and AARP has asked experts to answer other common questions about life after vaccination. Here are 10 things you should know now that you've been jabbed.

1. You still need to wear a mask

Even though COVID-19 cases are down from their peak in January, the coronavirus is still circulating in the U.S., and new and more contagious variants have emerged. So wearing masks and social distancing are still important in helping slow its spread until we can reach herd immunity — when an estimated 70 to 85 percent of the population is vaccinated.

"Until more of the population is vaccinated, masking is important, not just to protect yourself but also other people,” says Purvi Parikh, M.D., an allergist and immunologist at NYU Langone Health and an investigator in COVID-19 vaccine clinical trials.

Masking will also help slow the spread of coronavirus variants — and prevent the emergence of new ones — because the virus can't mutate if it is not spreading.

2. You could still catch COVID-19

This is the other reason experts don't want you to put aside your mask just yet. Although all three vaccines authorized for emergency use in the U.S. were found to be highly effective against severe disease and death from COVID-19, there's still a chance you could get infected with the virus.

The Pfizer-BioNTech and Moderna COVID-19 vaccines were about 95 percent effective in preventing symptomatic COVID-19 after two doses in clinical trials. The Johnson & Johnson vaccine was 66.1 percent effective in multi-country clinical trials and 72 percent effective in U.S. trials.

"The whole point of a vaccine is that it prevents you from dying or ending up in the hospital,” Parikh says. “But you may still get sick.”

3. You could infect someone else

There's also a small chance that you could get infected with the virus and not even realize it, and then you could transmit it to someone who is not vaccinated, says Kristen Marks, M.D., an infectious disease specialist at New York-Presbyterian/Weill Cornell Medicine who leads COVID-19 vaccine trials.

Researchers are still studying whether the vaccines prevent the asymptomatic spread of the virus, she says; early data indicates that they likely do. But the evidence is preliminary and more research is needed.

4. You can visit friends and family

Fully vaccinated people can gather indoors with others who are also fully vaccinated, without wearing masks or physical distancing if you choose, the CDC says, because the chance of anyone getting infected would be remote.

You can also spend time inside with unvaccinated people from a single household without wearing masks or physical distancing if you choose, the CDC says, as long as no one is at increased risk for severe COVID-19 disease and no one lives with somebody who's at increased risk as well.

That means you can visit (and hug!) your unvaccinated children and grandchildren. What's important, the CDC says, is to keep two unvaccinated households from mingling. The agency offers this example: If fully vaccinated grandparents are visiting with their unvaccinated daughter and her children, and the daughter's unvaccinated neighbors also come over, the visit should then take place outdoors, with everyone wearing well-fitted masks and maintaining physical distance (at least 6 feet). This is due to the risk the two unvaccinated households pose to one another.

The CDC still recommends avoiding medium-size and large gatherings.

5. You don't have to quarantine after exposure

You do not have to quarantine or get tested after an exposure to someone with the coronavirus, as long as you aren't experiencing any symptoms, the CDC says. If you develop a cough, fever, shortness of breath, diarrhea or other symptoms of COVID-19, however, you should get tested.

6. You should keep your vaccine record card handy

In the future, you may need proof of vaccination to travel, work in certain industries or attend large events, Parikh says. Several other countries already have a validation system in the works, and a number of private companies in the U.S. are working on creating a digital passport that would include your vaccination status. “Obviously, your vaccine card is your main proof right now,” Parikh adds.

Your card may also come in handy to confirm which vaccine you received, and when you received it, if a booster dose is required. Some people are laminating their cards; another way to preserve it is to take a photo and store it on your phone. If you didn't hang on to your card, the provider that administered your vaccine should have an electronic or paper record of it.

7. Travel is still discouraged

Even though the number of airline passengers has been rising, the CDC continues to recommend against travel, even for those who are vaccinated. In explaining the decision on March 8, CDC Director Rochelle Walensky said:

"In terms of travel, here's what we know: Every time that there's a surge in travel, we have a surge in cases in this country. We know that many of our variants have emerged from international places, and we know that the travel corridor is a place where people are mixing a lot. We are really trying to restrain travel at this current period of time, and we're hopeful that our next set of guidance will have more science around what vaccinated people can do, perhaps travel being among them."

8. It's a good time to go to the doctor or dentist

Countless Americans put their health care on hold due to the pandemic. Now that you're vaccinated, it's time to schedule that colonoscopy, dental cleaning or elective surgery you've been putting off. “Being vaccinated, now is the safest it has been to have surgery in well over a year,” says Beverly Philip, M.D., president of the American Society of Anesthesiologists.

The only screening you may want to hold off getting right away is your mammogram. Many women develop swelling in the lymph nodes in their underarm after vaccination, the CDC says. Although the swelling is a normal sign that your body is building protection to the coronavirus, it could cause a false mammogram reading. For that reason, some experts recommend waiting four to six weeks after you are fully vaccinated to get a mammogram.

9. You may need a booster shot

Marks says there are two reasons we might need a booster shot: If our immunity wears off naturally or if the virus changes so much that the immunity we have from the current vaccines proves inadequate.

Researchers still don't know how long immunity from the vaccines will last. “We're collecting data,” Marks says. “The phase 3 trials only started last summer, and the data lags a few weeks behind that.”

The current vaccines should provide some protection against the coronavirus variants circulating right now. But a few contain a mutation that may allow the virus to elude some of the antibodies produced through vaccines. The vaccine manufacturers are working to create booster shots or updated versions of their shots to improve protection against those variants.

Chances are that we will have to get some kind of COVID-19 shot on a regular basis, perhaps once every three years or every year, like the flu shot.

10. A return to normal hinges on herd immunity

Before life can get totally back to normal, experts say that first we need to reach herd immunity — when enough Americans are vaccinated to significantly slow the spread of the virus. Estimates of when we will reach that point range from this summer to early 2022.

"I'm very optimistic about summertime, when rates will naturally reduce and the number of people we've been able to vaccinate will make it so that the virus is not being transmitted as quickly,” Marks said. “The wild card is the variants.”

Factors that will affect that timeline include the percentage of Americans willing to get the vaccine, how quickly a vaccine for children is authorized and how well the vaccines work against more contagious variants of the virus.


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10 Things the Fully Vaccinated Need to Know (Original Post) NurseJackie Apr 2021 OP
K&R!!!! 2naSalit Apr 2021 #1
Thank you NurseJackie! lapucelle Apr 2021 #2
Good information Alice Kramden Apr 2021 #3
Herd stoopidity will prevail over common sense. Expect surges. Take every precaution. BSdetect Apr 2021 #4
I am creating a Post Vaccine Bucket List Evergreen Emerald Apr 2021 #5
I started mine a couple weeks ago! CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #51
K&R...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #6
This urgently needs to be pinned somewhere prominent. Hugin Apr 2021 #7
;-{) Goonch Apr 2021 #8
Thank you! Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #9
Thank you! And the jury is still out on the vaccines & S. African variant. Pobeka Apr 2021 #10
J&J reports on the South Africam variant say that wnylib Apr 2021 #35
disconnect stopdiggin Apr 2021 #52
Let me clarify Pobeka Apr 2021 #65
thank you. that is helpful. stopdiggin Apr 2021 #71
Just a niggle -- serum tests don't measure efficacy. Pobeka Apr 2021 #75
Will we ever have herd immunity? inwiththenew Apr 2021 #11
2 reasons I might wear a mask, even if the COVID goes away. multigraincracker Apr 2021 #12
+1. dalton99a Apr 2021 #15
Yes. Though it still feels wierd to pull up my mask before walking into the bank... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #16
Ford, the car company is now multigraincracker Apr 2021 #20
Hmmm. Hard to imagine how well those could work (without an exhale valve, that sorta defeats... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #41
That's the excuse deplorable shop owners gave for banning masks IronLionZion Apr 2021 #47
Exactly. AZ8theist Apr 2021 #28
My mother and I have decided it will be permanent for us. Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #36
+1 IronLionZion Apr 2021 #45
Not me. I've been as good at wearing it as anyone you know. KN95 everywhere GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #69
Excellent post! Thank you! Buckeye_Democrat Apr 2021 #13
Kick dalton99a Apr 2021 #14
Great list, thanks! My fear is that people will go ape-shit after getting their vaccine. George II Apr 2021 #17
That's a valid concern. And... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #21
K&R! gademocrat7 Apr 2021 #18
Yep. Mask up and trust no one outside your sphere. MAGAts & fundamentalists will sport fake cards. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #19
Yep; I can just see the market for fake cards. oldsoftie Apr 2021 #30
This info is already somewhat dated. Dream Girl Apr 2021 #22
I'll wait. I have no desire to sit next to a Covid-Mary (or Covid-Karen)... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #23
you might want to look at that again stopdiggin Apr 2021 #53
Thank you. Good post. nt PatrickforB Apr 2021 #24
DO NOT LAMINATE YOUR VACCINATION CARD!!!!!!!!!! AZ8theist Apr 2021 #25
Good addition. Hugin Apr 2021 #27
Once you have both shots, there is really no reason not to laminate the card. Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #42
I got plastic sleeves...similar to badge holders... AZ8theist Apr 2021 #76
My employee ID, which is considerably more solid than the vaccine card Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #77
My employee ID, left on the dash in AZ.. AZ8theist Apr 2021 #79
I copied both sides of the card and covered it in plastic to carry, the original i keep in safe Shanti Shanti Shanti Apr 2021 #74
Great post malaise Apr 2021 #26
Good stuff! IrishAfricanAmerican Apr 2021 #29
Excellent, succinctly written article. Thanks for posting! nt Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2021 #31
Excellent! geardaddy Apr 2021 #32
Excellent. MontanaMama Apr 2021 #33
NurseJackie....Thank you sooooooooo much! Upthevibe Apr 2021 #34
Thanks, NurseJackie! lillypaddle Apr 2021 #37
Good info. Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 2021 #38
This is OUTSTANDING stuff, NurseJackie! calimary Apr 2021 #39
Great article LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2021 #40
Bookmarked! Heartstrings Apr 2021 #43
I infer that "last dose" means "final dose?" BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #44
All good. I am fully vaccinated but I'll lay low twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #46
I'm feeling some strong side effects after the second shot yesterday IronLionZion Apr 2021 #48
Good common sense advice. Martin68 Apr 2021 #49
J&J hits 95 percent after about 60-some days. CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #50
Thank you, Nurse Jackie, for this PSA Hekate Apr 2021 #54
Thank you! wryter2000 Apr 2021 #55
Thanks stage left Apr 2021 #56
Mahalo, Jackie.. Bookmarked! Cha Apr 2021 #57
The percent effectiveness has wavered down and up bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #58
The only "100%" claim that I've heard is: "100% effective at preventing death"... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #59
That makes sense bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #60
I believe that statement was being made in response to people who... NurseJackie Apr 2021 #61
I would rec. the CDC website as guidelines are updated as things change, like travel as of 4/2 EleanorR Apr 2021 #62
Thanks! NurseJackie Apr 2021 #63
Thank you, Jackie. sheshe2 Apr 2021 #64
Thank you, Nurse Jackie. wendyb-NC Apr 2021 #66
Herd immunity. Moooo. TigressDem Apr 2021 #67
Thanks. The wife and I are fully vaccinated this Tuesday when I will be 2 weeks from my second shot GulfCoast66 Apr 2021 #68
A very good read DFW Apr 2021 #70
Many thanks, NJ, for this important information. I had no idea Totally Tunsie Apr 2021 #72
I am fully vaccinated now ribrepin Apr 2021 #73
Thank you for this! I will print it out for my husband to read liberal_mama Apr 2021 #78

lapucelle

(18,231 posts)
2. Thank you NurseJackie!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:40 AM
Apr 2021

This is an informative and helpful clear synopsis of CDC recommendations for those who are fully vaccinated.

Someone else shared this link last week for information on where individual states are vis-à-vis vaccination percentages. You can go to this chart to get some idea on what dates your state might be approaching herd immunity. (It's important to remember that due to state-to-state and international mobility, EVERYONE needs to be on board with and working hard to achieve "full" vaccination)

When Might A Majority Of People In Your State Be Fully Vaccinated?


https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/01/28/960901166/how-is-the-covid-19-vaccination-campaign-going-in-your-state

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
51. I started mine a couple weeks ago!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:12 PM
Apr 2021

The first thing I listed was all our favorite eat-in restaurants that we can go to.

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
10. Thank you! And the jury is still out on the vaccines & S. African variant.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:03 AM
Apr 2021

Lab studies show pfizer is about 10x less effective at neutralizing the S. African variant, and moderna is about 12x less effective. I haven't seen any data for J&J. These were reported in the Nature Journal.

Early good news is pfizer still looks good against S. African variant -- I believe it was from S. Africa and 1 or 2 thousand people who have had no symptomatic COVID. I apologize for not having the reference, I should have made a copy when I read it. It is a very small sample but encouraging none the less.

Keep wearing those masks, be diligent, promoting a culture of mask wearing still is not just protecting others, but possibly yourself too.

wnylib

(21,417 posts)
35. J&J reports on the South Africam variant say that
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:24 AM
Apr 2021

J&J is around 60% effective against it and 100% effective against hospitalization and death from the South Africsn variant.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
52. disconnect
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:19 PM
Apr 2021

between paragraph 1 and 2. (or else my reading comprehension has plummeted -- always a possibility)

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
65. Let me clarify
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:35 PM
Apr 2021

(First paragraph)
Lab studies are done with serum obtained 14 or more days after the second dose. This serum contains antibodies produced by the immune reaction to the vaccine. Then they combine a known quanity of actual or simulated virus particles with serum, and see how much of the viral particles are removed (bound to by antibodies).

(Second paragraph)
But, a 10x less effectiveness in the lab study doesn't necessarily mean people aren't adequately protected, it may still be enough to prevent symptomatic infection. Real people have an entire physical body worth antibodies being pumped through blood vessels and there may be more than enough, even at 10x less, to stop an infection, or prevent it from becoming symptomatic. That's why they need to see how the vaccines work in the real world with humans who will either show symptoms or not.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
71. thank you. that is helpful.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:10 AM
Apr 2021

a 10 or 12x reduction in efficacy sounds like an enormous deficit. But, as you explain -- the real measure is in how many people become ill (or gravely ill).

Pobeka

(4,999 posts)
75. Just a niggle -- serum tests don't measure efficacy.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 09:34 AM
Apr 2021

So be careful not to say a 10x or 12x reduction in efficacy -- efficacy is the measure of how many people get sick.

inwiththenew

(972 posts)
11. Will we ever have herd immunity?
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:08 AM
Apr 2021

I ask that as a serious questions. Anti-vaxxers and maskless idiots aside, won't the virus be constantly mutating like the flu?

We don't have heard immunity against the flu and even getting the flu vaccine is not a guarantee you won't get it. Or is this going to be different from the flu?

multigraincracker

(32,658 posts)
12. 2 reasons I might wear a mask, even if the COVID goes away.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:09 AM
Apr 2021

1 First year I can say I never had a cold or even a runny nose.

2 Allergies have been much less of a problem this year.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
16. Yes. Though it still feels wierd to pull up my mask before walking into the bank...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:23 AM
Apr 2021

to get cash or whatever.

Just odd.

multigraincracker

(32,658 posts)
20. Ford, the car company is now
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:27 AM
Apr 2021

making clear plastic ones. Pretty soon you'll be able to take a Ford for a test drive and get one free.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
41. Hmmm. Hard to imagine how well those could work (without an exhale valve, that sorta defeats...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:19 PM
Apr 2021

part of the purpose of a mask).

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
47. That's the excuse deplorable shop owners gave for banning masks
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:58 PM
Apr 2021

in many red rural areas they still don't want customers to wear masks claiming they could be robbed.

AZ8theist

(5,447 posts)
28. Exactly.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:58 AM
Apr 2021

At 63, I doubt seriously I will EVER go outside again WITHOUT a mask.
A fascinating aspect of this past year is you don't hear about the "seasonal flu" epidemic. That's right, wearing masks, washing your hands, and maintaining social distancing has kept the flu at bay this past season. WHO KNEW????

Well, EVERBODY since about 1918, that's who....

"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it."--George Santayana, The Life of Reason, 1905.

Ka-Dinh Oy

(11,686 posts)
36. My mother and I have decided it will be permanent for us.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:33 AM
Apr 2021

We just do not want to take the chance. She's 80 plus and I live in a complex with seniors and disabled. Living in my red county there are to many assholes who do not wear their masks making it more likely to stay around longer.

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
45. +1
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:53 PM
Apr 2021

People were flipping out this time last year thinking that allergy symptoms might be COVID. It's so nice to inhale less pollen now.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
69. Not me. I've been as good at wearing it as anyone you know. KN95 everywhere
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 01:31 AM
Apr 2021

Don’t go around people much and distance when I do.

But I hate the damn thing. And I’m very social.

As soon as every American who wants the vaccine has it, I’m done with the mask. Except of course places that will still require it.

Remember we took all these steps to prevent hospitals to not be overrun. Once everyone who wants the jab has it, that is no longer a risk.

In 5 days I’m 2 weeks after my second shot. The wife is already protected. I’ll keep wearing the mask to protect those that are not yet vaccinated. But once no one is wanting the jab, I’m done with the mask.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
21. That's a valid concern. And...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:28 AM
Apr 2021

... there are many stupid people who will believe that when a governor lifts covid restrictions, that's the "all-clear" sign to do whatever you want.

oldsoftie

(12,516 posts)
30. Yep; I can just see the market for fake cards.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 10:32 AM
Apr 2021

One acquaintance who refuses the shot is a "Diamond" member of Norwegian cruise lines. He has been waiting to get back on a ship. I cant WAIT to see his reaction to them now requiring all be vaccinated. I have NO DOUBT he'll try to get he and his wife fake docs.

 

Dream Girl

(5,111 posts)
22. This info is already somewhat dated.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:28 AM
Apr 2021

Travel is fine. If you’re fully vaccinate, withPfizer at least, you should not be able to catch or transmit the virus.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
23. I'll wait. I have no desire to sit next to a Covid-Mary (or Covid-Karen)...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:30 AM
Apr 2021

... on a three hour flight.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
53. you might want to look at that again
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:30 PM
Apr 2021

from a 'personal' perspective you might be alright ....
But the advisory was pointing to a demonstrated collective cost for travel. And the travel and hospitality industry is still some ways off from an ability to require valid documentation. So -- something to think about.

AZ8theist

(5,447 posts)
25. DO NOT LAMINATE YOUR VACCINATION CARD!!!!!!!!!!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:50 AM
Apr 2021

You will notice, even with a 2-shot vaccine, there are 2 lines under the Covid vaccine dates.

You may need those to fill in for boosters in the future.
What we are doing, is getting plastic sleeves (like employee "badge holders&quot to store the card in. Store this in a secure place at home. If you ever need a booster, you can simply remove it from the sleeve and have it signed off. Take a picture of the card using your smart phone. If you get it laminated it can't be signed by your medical professional.

This is our plan, yours may differ. I have NO DOUBT that a booster shot, due to the variants causing havoc, will be required in the future. Bank on it.....

Ms. Toad

(34,056 posts)
42. Once you have both shots, there is really no reason not to laminate the card.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021

If/when a booster shot is needed, you can get a second card (the same way they are handling people who forget to bring/lose their cards between the first and second shot). With any luck, by that time they will have redesigned the card so that it can more easily be carried in a wallet.

Nothing wrong with your solution - but I want a more durable solution, and there is nothing wrong with laminating it to protect the card between now and sometime longer than 6 months from now when a booster shot is needed.

AZ8theist

(5,447 posts)
76. I got plastic sleeves...similar to badge holders...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 11:19 AM
Apr 2021

No need to laminate. Perfectly protected and you can pull them out for reuse any time.
Cheap pack of ten on line ...

Ms. Toad

(34,056 posts)
77. My employee ID, which is considerably more solid than the vaccine card
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 12:49 PM
Apr 2021

would beg to differ as to it being perfectly protected. n/t

AZ8theist

(5,447 posts)
79. My employee ID, left on the dash in AZ..
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:07 AM
Apr 2021

..would agree.

But who is going to carry around a vaccine card? Stick it in a sleeve and put it in a drawer....

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
44. I infer that "last dose" means "final dose?"
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:44 PM
Apr 2021

I don't know what else it could mean when the only regimens to which it could apply are all two-dose max. I just think "final" would have been a better choice.

IronLionZion

(45,405 posts)
48. I'm feeling some strong side effects after the second shot yesterday
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:01 PM
Apr 2021

If I were a malicious prankster I could scare a lot of people since I look like I have COVID with red eyes and low fever.

CaptainTruth

(6,582 posts)
50. J&J hits 95 percent after about 60-some days.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:53 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)

The final effectiveness of J&J is just as good as Moderna & Pfizer, it just builds more slowly & takes 60+ days to get there.

Dr Eric Feigl-Ding had a good thread about it on Twitter a while ago:

[link:


?s=19|]

Edit to add text:

UNDERRATED BENEFITS of J&J vaccine on severe illness— lost in efficacy comparisons is how the J&J vaccine efficacy actually may **get better over time** for severe #COVID19–as high as 90-95% at 56 days—trend is very strong. And makes J&J on par w/ Pfizer-BioNTech & NIH-Moderna.🧵

https://t.co/d9bLaHuvY4

wryter2000

(46,026 posts)
55. Thank you!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:05 PM
Apr 2021

I'm Pfizered. I can't wait until I can travel to visit my vaccinated brother and his vaccinated wife.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
58. The percent effectiveness has wavered down and up
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:12 PM
Apr 2021

Most of the time sources quote the 95% Pfizer and whatever it is for Moderna. But last week, I assume in an effort to boost vaccination, they told us both were 100% effective.

And those cards are great. Now that names are penciled in, how would they verify them? I suppose everyone's in a data base somewhere.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
59. The only "100%" claim that I've heard is: "100% effective at preventing death"...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:17 PM
Apr 2021

... or "preventing serious complications requiring hospital care and respirators."

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
60. That makes sense
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:21 PM
Apr 2021

I didn't think 100% is possible, and I only heard the headlines that of course had no qualifiers.

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
61. I believe that statement was being made in response to people who...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:23 PM
Apr 2021

... could not decide which one is "best" and would therefore prolong and procrastinate indefinitely. And also to encourage the shy ones who wanted to wait for "something better" to come along rather than one that's only 80% or 90% effective.

EleanorR

(2,389 posts)
62. I would rec. the CDC website as guidelines are updated as things change, like travel as of 4/2
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:26 PM
Apr 2021
Summary of Recent Changes

Fully vaccinated people can resume domestic travel and do not need to get tested before or after travel or self-quarantine after travel.

Fully vaccinated people do not need to get tested before leaving the United States (unless required by the destination) or self-quarantine after arriving back in the United States.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/vaccines/fully-vaccinated-guidance.html

NurseJackie

(42,862 posts)
63. Thanks!
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 04:29 PM
Apr 2021

For me, personally, it's going to be much longer before I feel comfortable sitting on a plane next to someone who may/or-may-not be an anti-vaxer, or who may/or-may-not be an anti-masker (except when traveling).

wendyb-NC

(3,319 posts)
66. Thank you, Nurse Jackie.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 06:59 PM
Apr 2021

I bookmarked this so I can refer back, when I am unsure. I still wear a mask, try to social distance as much as possible, and only go out for supplies when absolutely necessary. Bless you and thanks again. Take and be well.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
68. Thanks. The wife and I are fully vaccinated this Tuesday when I will be 2 weeks from my second shot
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 01:17 AM
Apr 2021

But this mask wearing has to end sometime. In my mind when everyone who wants the vaccine has it it’s back to normal.

No way I hell Americans, liberals or conservatives are going to wear a mask for 2-3 years when once vaccinated you don’t put hospitals, or yourself at risk of dying or hospitalization.

After all, government officials are risk adverse. No matter when the recommendation that mask are no longer required, some few people will still die. I hope like hell the Biden Administration does not keep pushing masks well after most people’s risk of dying is long past. It will devastate us in the next election.

I’m no anti masker. I wear a KN95 anytime I go out. And distancing is important to me. But I hate it and will not do it when the only people at risk are anti-vaccers. Fortunately, the number of people who are refusing has dropped to 15% and may drop more. That might be enough. Then we can start shipping more vaccines to less wealthy countries.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
72. Many thanks, NJ, for this important information. I had no idea
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:46 AM
Apr 2021

of the vaccination's effect on mammograms...good to know!

The only screening you may want to hold off getting right away is your mammogram. Many women develop swelling in the lymph nodes in their underarm after vaccination, the CDC says. Although the swelling is a normal sign that your body is building protection to the coronavirus, it could cause a false mammogram reading. For that reason, some experts recommend waiting four to six weeks after you are fully vaccinated to get a mammogram.


ribrepin

(1,725 posts)
73. I am fully vaccinated now
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:35 AM
Apr 2021

but 11 year old granddaughter has had a close exposure so we are still avoiding. It just never stops.

liberal_mama

(1,495 posts)
78. Thank you for this! I will print it out for my husband to read
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 01:33 PM
Apr 2021

We are both fully vaccinated tomorrow as we got our 2nd doses of Pfizer on March 28!

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