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The AtlanticHes just resumed his campaign for New York City mayor after taking two weeks off to recover from COVID-19. The strain of the illness shows. Hes hard to hear through his two masks. He coughs occasionally. He seems tired, though his trademark egghead affabilitythink that chemistry teacher the middle schoolers really like or the guy who you have to admit leads a good team-building exerciseis on full display. He hams it up for passersby, posing for thumbs-up selfies, reminding commuters that primary day is June 22, telling people in impressive streetwear, You look so cool?! with a genuine sense of awe.
From the lectern, he announces a very big idea to the assembled crowd, which includes curious locals, a few journalists, and a gaggle of staffers in masks that say andrew yang. It is called the Big Apple Corps. (This also happens to be the name of a popular gay-and-lesbian community marching band.) Yang proposes that the city hire 10,000 recent college graduates to tutor the 100,000 public-school kids suffering most from learning loss due to the pandemic. He cites statistics on the digital divide and on the effectiveness of tutoring. He makes it personal. Im a public-school parent myself, he says. This year has been terrible for our kids.
Yangs pitch to New York City voters is not so dissimilar from his pitch to the broader American public in the 2020 Democratic presidential primary: big ideas, backed with data. He wants the city government to establish a basic income for the half a million New Yorkers living in deep poverty. He wants to create a public-banking network. He wants to transform New York into a hub for cryptocurrencies, and build casinos, and convert hotels into affordable housing. Put the white papers and campaign pronouncements together, and a picture emerges of a hypermodern municipal paradise devoted to social democracy and human flourishing.
The picture of how these big ideas would be funded and implemented is fuzzier. Yang has managed a tech nonprofit, a tutoring business, and a campaign and a half. But he has never held elected office, nor has he led a bureaucracylet alone one with the scale and political fractiousness of New Yorks. He has also committed, if softly, to cutting taxes.
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)and not 2020?
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Caliman73
(11,738 posts)The poster apparently really likes Yang.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)"Don't keep fighting the last Democratic presidential primary"?
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)If I say, "I wish Elizabeth Warren were President", I am making a statement about who I would like to be President. I am not fighting about who won the primary. Now, if I said, "Joe Biden cheated Elizabeth Warren out of becoming President by..." Then, not only would I be pointing myself out as delusional, but I would be litigating the last primary. I support Biden. He is the Democratic President, but I still have my preferences. If the poster is constantly posting anti-Biden posts, then that would be a problem and I am sure juries would become involved.
Communication is a two way street. It is up to the sender to send the message as clearly as possible, BUT it is also the job of the receiver to interpret the message correctly. Assuming that someone expressing a preference is "fighting" maybe needs to be checked out.
My wife doesn't like harder rock or certain kinds of rap. She did not grow up listening to that music. I did. I have a very wide taste in music. She will say, "I don't like that...it sounds like noise". I can interpret that as her attacking me and my tastes in music, OR I can simply say, she has a preference and it doesn't match my own (and she has poor tastes ). We can fight over a perceived insult or we can just disagree on musical tastes.
So the question is, do you want to relitigate the primaries based on a picture on a signature line, or do you want to just accept that people have differences in tastes for Democratic candidates?
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)without a difference. And why not support Yang in his current campaign rather than one that he lost.
Caliman73
(11,738 posts)The poster clearly expressed the support for the current campaign and the reaction if Yang were to become NYC Mayor. The good thing but double edged sword about speech is that we can express any preference as long as it does not violate the TOS, and it appears that the poster's signature line, which as been the poster's signature line for awhile, has clearly not violated the TOS or upset anyone.
Alas, it appears that there will be no resolution to this disagreement so I leave you to your business and bid you a good day.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Maybe it doesnt
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)Who is assuming that I don't support Yang for his current campaign?
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Say that Yang is your preferred candidate for 2021?
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Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)I'm just curious as to why your still supporting Yang for an election that is long over rather than the upcoming one.
Sherman A1
(38,958 posts)I dont have to explain myself to you.
JI7
(89,249 posts)walkingman
(7,615 posts)tinrobot
(10,900 posts)They're downtown, on Wall Street.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)another businessman with no government or public service experience. That has worked out so well in the past.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)That said, I'm waiting to hear what Yang's snow removal and trash pickup policies are...
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)I recall the public turning against him in his third term, the one that he wasn't supposed to have.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)FWIW - by that point he certainly had government experience.....
Sanity Claws
(21,848 posts)People voted for him freely and turned against him.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)So was detaining protestors during the 2004 gop convention. And the tax breaks he gave to himself and his millionaire buddies while raising property taxes on the middle class. Yes all very popular, with republicans.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)because he outspent everyone else by 10 to 1. Doesn't mean that his policies were good for New Yorkers.
former9thward
(32,005 posts)If New Yorkers did not like his policies they would not have voted to re-elect him twice.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)Are you saying that stop and frisk was a good policy? Or that it was ok to illegally detain protesters to the 2004 republican convention?
AZProgressive
(29,322 posts)It is also unconstitutional policing. Bloomberg did more stop-and-frisk than Giuliani. There are some instances where a Terry Stop is appropriate but not stopping and frisking random people on the street.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)to the RNC. NYC was sued over that and had to play millions in damages.
former9thward
(32,005 posts)What I think is of no matter. I am commenting on what New York City voters must have thought. Please read the posts carefully.
Dem4Life1102
(3,974 posts)But I have an opinion on the voting law. Do you?
former9thward
(32,005 posts)We were talking about whether money can buy re-elections. I say it has little importance. The voters are going to look at the incumbant's record. They either like it or not.
Agschmid
(28,749 posts)Polybius
(15,411 posts)I only turned against him when he started supporting the nanny state. Banning big sodas infuriated me.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)Oh my!
lame54
(35,290 posts)CaliforniaPeggy
(149,615 posts)onetexan
(13,041 posts)joetheman
(1,450 posts)economic disparities and economic slump. Looks like Biden at least followed some of that suggestion. AND, Yang moved his family to GA to help get the two Dem Senators elected. Yang has been pretty much an unsung hero. To me, he needs to be a more major player in the Biden administration.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Honestly, when it comes to elected positions of national attention, I don't think there's anything more overrated than mayor of NYC.
Long is the list of NYC Mayors who we've been told are national movers and shakers because they were or are mayors of New York, only to see them all fizzle out.
brooklynite
(94,552 posts)It's to successfully manage one of the world's largest and most complex cities, affecting the lives of 8 million people. Some people here think that's important.