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Can Kamala Harris vote for infrastructure reconciliation? (Original Post) MoonRiver Apr 2021 OP
She only votes if there's a tie. Phoenix61 Apr 2021 #1
If she has to, but we need all 50 Dems to get there...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2021 #2
actually we just need a tie.... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #3
Not just 2 to be absent... knowingly absent FBaggins Apr 2021 #6
I was thinking more like illness or some other... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #10
Wait, Manchin said he won't vote for reconciliation now? Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #4
He hinted that he doesn't support multiple reconciliation bills in the same year FBaggins Apr 2021 #5
You always negotiate Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #7
The question is whether they have to wait for October FBaggins Apr 2021 #8
Just build the Manchin West VA super-mega-highway to nowhere Calista241 Apr 2021 #9
Hit the nail on the head Johnny2X2X Apr 2021 #11
More for his cronies, more for his state... lagomorph777 Apr 2021 #12

Phoenix61

(16,993 posts)
1. She only votes if there's a tie.
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:14 AM
Apr 2021

I don’t see any repub stepping up. I had some friends who had a rat infestation compliments of Hurricane Michael. They thought everything was fixed months ago but this past week found the rats had chewed through the drain hose on the dishwasher. All the bottom cabinets in the kitchen, sheet rock and flooring have the be replaced. Manchin’s like those rats. We thought the problem was fixed turns out it was just hidden.

getagrip_already

(14,621 posts)
3. actually we just need a tie....
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 10:48 AM
Apr 2021

If a republican doesn't show for a vote, for any reason, and it is a tie at 49, then she can still cast the deciding vote.

on edit.. it would take 2 gop to be absent. not one. my bad, but the tie still holds.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
6. Not just 2 to be absent... knowingly absent
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:05 AM
Apr 2021

That is... knowing that a vote is going to be held the day after tomorrow... still not showing up for that vote.

The majority can't just see that two minority members are absent and decide "hey... let's hold that vote now!"

getagrip_already

(14,621 posts)
10. I was thinking more like illness or some other...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:13 AM
Apr 2021

or prison or some other reason someone couldn't be present.

Johnny2X2X

(18,972 posts)
4. Wait, Manchin said he won't vote for reconciliation now?
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 10:50 AM
Apr 2021

When did he say that? Last I hear he was negotiating the corporate tax rate and he started at 25%.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
5. He hinted that he doesn't support multiple reconciliation bills in the same year
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:03 AM
Apr 2021

He didn't say that reconciliation couldn't be used again... though (as you note) he also said that he doesn't support the current infrastructure proposal (which likely makes reconciliation a moot point for now).

Johnny2X2X

(18,972 posts)
7. You always negotiate
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:08 AM
Apr 2021

They never draft a bill and pass it as is, Manchin will vote for reconciliation on infrastructure, just has to be negotiated to his liking first.

FBaggins

(26,721 posts)
8. The question is whether they have to wait for October
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:10 AM
Apr 2021

or whether (as Schumer would like), reconciliation can be used again this budget year.

Manchin hinted yesterday that he wouldn't support that.

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
9. Just build the Manchin West VA super-mega-highway to nowhere
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:12 AM
Apr 2021

Hire and overpay a bunch of West Virginians. Put it in the bill. Done Deal.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
12. More for his cronies, more for his state...
Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:24 AM
Apr 2021

...at this point, just pay the fucking ransom. In 2022, get some more Dems in there and cut Manchin loose.

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