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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI guess I have just about reached my limit in dealing with the utter naked STUPIDITY
in which the nation seems awash.
I have just heard a know-it-all speaking to someone who had a reaction to their vaccination say that "Yeah, they wouldn't even test it in RATS, but they will stick it in your arm!"
I just can't be expected to treat these Trump-humping ignoramuses as anything short of an existential threat.
"Be civil?"
Not any more. These people NEED to be offended.
niyad
(113,302 posts)century.
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)I'm tired of the right wing "complaining" about getting shots, infrastructure, stimulus, and voting in general. It's all about them, not about what the people want. To hell with them.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)They seem to be unable to support anything that doesn't align with their "beliefs" or that benefits anyone besides themselves.
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)I cannot imagine how people come to think that way.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)because their entire being and self worth is based entirely and purely on their money !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I think about people I know who are wealthy or rich. If somehow they lost it all, they would never be able to land on their feet and survive. Never in a million years.........
During the stock market crash a century ago, it was reported that a lot of people on wall street and bankers jumped out of windows.
I don't know if that is true, but I can easily believe it to be a fact..........
The trust fund kids that I know, have absolutely no sense of accomplishment. None what so ever. They are all deeply insecure at some inner level. Their entire lives have been handed to them on a silver platter from day one. They never had to do anything or work at anything, so they never had the feeling of accomplishing anything. Their entire sense of self worth is in the crapper.
It is no small wonder they cling to the only thing keeping them afloat.....their money.......
It is indeed sad to watch these pathetic people, but even sadder to watch them try to actively destroy the rest of us, just so they can stay on the top. THAT is indeed nauseating............
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)You are spot on. And how sad is that!!!!
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)Not just sad, but severely depressing in so many different ways.........
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)That's all they want no matter the price paid by someone else.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)They feel their ends justifies their means. It is truly despicable..........
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)What few friends and acquaintances I had left after the Cheney/Rumsfeld administration, got wiped out of my life after the first few years of the Trump/RepubliCON administration.
My life is currently 100% Republican free..............
I cannot begin to understand ANY people who back a person or party that is so flagrantly destructive of all others........
OLDMDDEM
(1,573 posts)I have a republicon son. He's the only one in the family and it hurts to see him supporting policies that affect him and his family in a negative way. I just don't get it.
calimary
(81,261 posts)that my kids are both enlightened, and they seem to be staying that way as they grow older. Theyve been old enough, for at least a decade, to be beyond any supervisory guidance or direct influence from either their dad or me. And theyre still making the correct decisions and conclusions.
Thank you, Dear God!
But I do have a niece whos gone down the CON rabbit hole with her trumper husband, but her brother is far more liberal and connected to reality, fortunately enough. He now sees his sister as a lost cause.
I often wonder how many families across the U.S. are torn apart and broken by this trump-induced nightmare.
I know........a family member, they are the hardest.
I had so many Life Time Friends that I have had to separate from who drank the Kool aide......truly gut wrenching.
The worst part? You can't even discuss anything with them......The are absolutely oblivious to any form of reason or rationale thought.
The psychiatrists I have talked to have come around to believing that they have been indeed brainwashed by the Right Wing, Via listening to nothing except Fox News and Right Wing radio, 24/7, the past 10+ years......Good people, who have been brainwashed to HATE..............It is like a massive RepubliCON PSY-OPS attack............
Sadly, I am not at all optimistic about the future. I think we have passed the point of no return after 40 years of the RepubliCONs shit..
They have an un-fathomable amount of money to finance their destruction of this nation, it's people, and Democracy. Their most recent administration has given them TONS more.
It is beyond obvious from their actions these past four decades that they want to install a ruling class at the very top, with the 99% becoming serfs and peasants......
They are truly millimeters away from installing a FASCIST CORPORATE TYRANNY, and being this near their goal, they will stop at nothing.
Katie Bar The Door.........WASF
dalton99a
(81,485 posts)Lonestarblue
(9,988 posts)Im ready for a separation or possibly a divorce. My patience with the Republican viewpoint evaporated many years ago, and I view them as nothing but a drag on our future as a country anyone would want to live in. I commented on another post that Im ready for an EU-type arrangement with open borders and commerce but separate governments. Not sure what we would do with the military, but Im tired of living in a country where 40% or so of the population believes in conspiracies, worships a sexual predator, and prefers to ignore the common good in favor of personal irresponsibility while also trying to regulate the actions of people they dont like.
Tiger8
(432 posts)I live in a Blue State and try to avoid spending money that will eventually end up in Red State government hands.
And yes, I understand nuances, like.....
- There are many fine people who live in Red States, or Blue parts of Red States.
- A Trumper in a Blue State can own a business, while their Red State competitor is a normal person.
My objective is to just run my life in a way where Im true to my own values, but without it becoming too burdensome.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)That's exactly what they are.
Republicans are now 25 percent of the electorate, and they are grasping the power not rightfully theirs.
Evolve Dammit
(16,728 posts)Hugin
(33,140 posts)by our very existence. Their gibbering fades into an echo of general hate.
It's what they do and there is no changing it or them.
They hate and will not compromise on it.
TreasonousBastard
(43,049 posts)50% of the population is below average.
The question is-- what do we do about it?
ashredux
(2,605 posts)Bet ya you will hear that from them
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)That's a start. A year spent away from their bigoted and ignorant folks would improve them.
Also shutting down home-schooling except when medically necessary. All those fundies educated at home in silos of RW information are part of our problem.
Perhaps mandatory public schooling, with a curriculum that includes civic education.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)is that I admire your optimism and your idealistic thoughts. We all have them. They are indeed refreshing to think about.....
However, When you are up to your ass in alligators, it is extremely hard to concentrate on your primary objective of draining the swamp.
Grasswire2
(13,569 posts)the multi-generational cycle.
And that's only done by education and intervention.
You can drain the swamp AND break the cycle, too.
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)I have been screaming this from the roof tops starting months before the Carter/Reagan election that was nothing less than Treason by all the RepubliCONs involved......HWBush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/Pearle/Wolfowitz and a hundred others.......AND the beginning of their entire RepubliCON fiasco all of us are now overwhelmed with.
My greatest blowback then, was not only from the RepubliCONs, but The Reagan Democrats, as they called themselves.............
Last week, as I was locking my car, my mind wandered to what an incredible world this would be if people were just honest.....
Then my thoughts for some reason, skipped to RepubliCON politicians, and I just had to shake my head and chuckle as I walked towards the store entrance......
All I am saying, is that there have to be realistic priorities and a certain amount of methodology in achieving goals.......
KT2000
(20,577 posts)address the algorithms that feed such fantasies. I am sure we do not get the information that the RWers are thrilled to receive. They may even be surrounded by that bias. I too have had it and do not baby the ignorance, especially as it is dangerous for all of us.
aeromanKC
(3,322 posts)Damn MAGAt's are soooo F'n ignorant!!! Dunning-Krueger for sure!!
Harker
(14,018 posts)kirkuchiyo
(402 posts)Recently tested positive for Covid. She works in administration in a Hospital and was offered the vaccine and declined it. Now she's posting online how horrible she feels and most commenters are saying, didn't you get the vaccine? So she's stopped posting. What an idiot. But her hubby and daughter both love their confederate flags. We aren't really friends anymore, she just doesn't know it. Idiot.
Jon King
(1,910 posts)The MAGAs are long lost. All we can do is try to limit the damage they can do to the rest of us. Double masks, vaccinations, etc.
Dems must target young voters early and often. The demographics are completely against the Repugs, even their dirty voting tricks can only delay the inevitable.
azureblue
(2,146 posts)as they were to us when Trump was in office. Karma comes around......
And yes, I will not deal with willfully stupid people who insist on being stupid..
DENVERPOPS
(8,820 posts)I have cringed for these past years when all the Dem's were saying:
"We will take the high road".
Few recognized that we were facing the RepubliCON Party, who's specialty had become Guerrilla Warfare....
llashram
(6,265 posts)as anything but. They are the enemy intent on taking my freedom away.
INdemo
(6,994 posts)"exactly what did Trump do to make America Great" ....They just don't have an answer. If they do they will say "well he did better than Obama or he did better than Hillary"...They just don't have an real answer. (Some don't realize Hillary was never actually President)
Most Trump supporters I know just by overhearing a conversations while pumping gas or whatever...
I hear some of them say "I'm not getting that damn Biden poison shot in my arm with that tracer chip...
We haven't really realized up to this point in our history just how seriously dumb these people are.
As one from the Baby Boomer Generation I realize that my Grandchildren (now young adults) and my Great Grandchildren will have to fight these Fascists politically and I just don't know how to protect them except to teach them that our Democracy is on life support and the only way to help protect it is to get active in Democratic Politics.
GB_RN
(2,355 posts)My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.
This has become the mantra of the Reichwing.
mountain grammy
(26,620 posts)trumpers are indeed an "existential threat."
vlyons
(10,252 posts)They hate liberals, and would stand silently by, maybe even applaud, if we were shipped off to the gulag. They make us wrong at every turn just to make themselves feel right. Their ego-self is all entwined with hating liberals. Their decision-making process isn't based on reason and analysis and evidence. It's based on negative emotions and what Fox News tells them.
Evolve Dammit
(16,728 posts)Paladin
(28,257 posts)Treating the trump shitheads with anything short of open-and-obvious scorn gives them a measure of respect, of which they will never be worthy. This is a war, folks---might as well act like it.
whistler162
(11,155 posts)The Trump's got their shots and they seem okay? Apologes to rats.
KS Toronado
(17,231 posts)and 49% of reQublican men refusing the vaccine, I suspect we'll have a lot fewer of them to put up with shortly.
Sad to see so many additional people die because of the virus but they basically asked for it with their free-dumbs.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)The guy that introduced me to two of them is one of my best-ever friends - a totally honest, salt-of-the-earth guy, generous of both heart and possessions. I expressed misgivings about Canadian MAGAts, and he said something like "But they are great people."
I felt compelled to say they aren't. He questioned that, and I pointed out some of the major horrors that he was tacitly supporting. Enabling is probably a better word. He said something like "I know, but..." and I said there are no buts.
"What would you think of the nicest person you think you ever met if you found out they collect child porn? Torture small animals? Are they still 'great people'?"
He had to allow the obvious, and agree. It may seem harsh to judge someone on the single, very worst part of them, but I disagree. You can extend the analogy to death camps or any other damned thing you want. At some point, there is a belief or action that is beyond the pale. If there is not one of those points for a given person, they should be ostracized themselves.
Skittles
(153,160 posts)in talking with him, catching up, I found he had voted for Trump - TWICE
I declined his invitation and let him know why.
I cannot play nice with people who approve of racism and fascism. NO INDEED.
Maraya1969
(22,480 posts)Hospitalized because of the COVID vaccine. I grabbed my phone and asked her to tell me where she read it and she said she just read the title to an article on Yahoo.
There was something about people being Covid after the shot but it was nothing like what she said. I kept asking her questions while trying to validity her bullshit.
Im convinced that people just make short shit I
Maybe someone said something to get. I dont know. But I wasnt going to let her get away with it
Its maddening
Rhiannon12866
(205,320 posts)I overheard someone say that he wasn't getting the vaccine since he won't be a "Guinea Pig " and who knows what the long term effects will be?? I was so tempted to speak up, but I knew it was a losing cause and I'd just be creating an adversary.
SalmonChantedEvening
(31,951 posts)They want nice in return for their ugliness. I have no nice to spare.