Regarding the Derek Chauvin murder trial

[Uncle Joe]

Chauvin's attorney will have to absolutely destroy the credibility of the pulmonology expert; Dr. Martin Tobin that testified this morning because his testimony was totally devastating to their straw defense of fentanyl, or a weak heart causing George Floyd's death.

(snip)

Tobin said he watched videos of Floyd's arrests "hundreds of times" and found Chauvin's left knee was on Floyd's neck for the majority of the time.

The combination of Floyd being handcuffed behind his back, the officers' manipulation of the cuffs, and the pavement beneath Floyd combined to interfere with Floyd's ability to breathe, Tobin testified.

(snip)

"It's like the left side is in a vise. It's totally pushed in, squeezed in from the street at the bottom, and then from the way the handcuffs are manipulated," he said. "That totally interferes with central features of how we breathe.”

Tobin said images from the videos show Floyd trying to use his right fingers and knuckles to push the right side of his lungs up to get air into them. "This tells you he has used up his resources and he's literally trying to breathe with his fingers and knuckles," Tobin said.


https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2021/04/07/derek-chauvin-trial-live-day-9-live-george-floyd-updates/7122850002/

[secondwind]

1. Been watching from the start..

That poor man suffered horribly.

[Uncle Joe]

2. I hear you secondwind

same here.

[duhneece]

3. Dr. Martin Tobin's testimony may have been the most damning so far

Chauvin's actions being against policy is fairly firmly established, but 'they' keep saying the defense will blame the death on Mr. Floyd's death but Dr. Tobin's testimony put a lie to that. Chauvin murdered Mr. Floyd, period.

[Uncle Joe]

5. After Dr. Tobin's testimony

blowing their straw defense out of the water, I'm wondering what the chances are that Chauvin's attorneys will convince him to change his plea to guilty?

I know they can't honestly believe that he's not guilty at this point.

[mcar]

4. It was the most damning testimony yet

I don't see how they can discredit the man. The Chauvin team must be in a panic.

[Uncle Joe]

6. I agree on all counts mcar

I don't see how they could discredit Dr. Tobin either but I believe that's their only course of action unless Chauvin's plea is changed to guilty.

[mcar]

7. I'm guessing they will continue to push

their already debunked claims of "the crowd made me nervous (all those angry Black folk, doncha know)," "George Floyd was overdosing so he was barely conscious/he was in a drug-induced frenzy," and add to it - "how would Chauvin know that he was killing Floyd by putting 90+ lbs of weight on the man's neck?"

[Uncle Joe]

9. Can you imagine what our society would devolve to in the long haul if

that argument were to win out?

Some people might believe that angry black folk in public could never object to police brutality lest their objections only be seen as threat; thus legitimizing increased police abuse, a "catch 22."

In truth, eventually that tiger would consume everyone as our nation became increasingly authoritarian and it wouldn't be just people of color that lose their freedom.

[stillcool]

10. so well described...

a country living in fear, with little hope of ever righting what's wrong. Justice means the victims become the culprits, and the culprits become the victim, and it's all good. We're almost there, maybe we already are.

[sop]

8. They'll bring in their own defense experts to contradict everything the prosecution has offered.

It will come down to which expert(s) is/are more credible, and if they can create reasonable doubt in the mind(s) of someone on the jury. It will be very difficult, but they'll try.

[IcyPeas]

11. it wasn't just the weight on Floyd's neck

he painted a picture of Floyd lying prone, handcuffed, against the asphalt literally being squished. his entire chest was being held down, his handcuffed wrists were being pushed into his back.... as well as the knee on the neck.

This was something I hadn't really thought about before. It is way worse than we first thought. It was torture.

I don't know what the prosecutor can do to erase this image. this picture is in the jurys head now too.

[TheRealNorth]

12. The defense will have to find a pulmonologist....

To testify otherwise in order to create doubt in the jury. I would think that they can probably find a Trump-humping pulmonologist to do the dirty for them.