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Joe Manchin is now a certified loon (Original Post) wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 OP
That's like saying that any civil rights legislation needs to make racists happy. NT Bleacher Creature Apr 2021 #1
WTF? mzmolly Apr 2021 #2
I just sighed so many times in a row I passed out. SoonerPride Apr 2021 #3
Did anybody worry about what the Democrats thought Haggard Celine Apr 2021 #4
That is like saying after seeing the attempted coup/riot on 1/6/21 that democrats need to work ... Botany Apr 2021 #5
They weren't happy when they were in charge of everything... lame54 Apr 2021 #6
It would make them happy if everyone but Bettie Apr 2021 #15
Dumbest thing I've heard in a long time BornADemocrat Apr 2021 #7
He'd be at the Beaches of Normandy wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #8
+1 CaptainTruth Apr 2021 #13
I am beginning to think someone has dirt on him. madaboutharry Apr 2021 #9
I concur belpejic Apr 2021 #18
I doubt it or he would not have voted to convict Trump during both impeachment totodeinhere Apr 2021 #34
What world does Manchin live in? It's certainly not this one. brush Apr 2021 #10
He must want something really, really big Bettie Apr 2021 #17
I didn't know he had a daughter. Does she have any experience in running a large agency? brush Apr 2021 #33
She was the CEO of a pharma company.... Bettie Apr 2021 #36
God, she sounds like a republican in hiding too. brush Apr 2021 #37
He lives in a state where people expect him to act in a bipartisan manner. TwilightZone Apr 2021 #35
Sucks to be him then EndlessWire Apr 2021 #38
HR1 is hugely popular with Republicans zaj Apr 2021 #11
Manchin confuses republican voters SharonClark Apr 2021 #12
Joe Manchin is special... Blue Owl Apr 2021 #14
Have they made you happy, Joe? world wide wally Apr 2021 #16
If we could get statehood for D.C. Diamond_Dog Apr 2021 #19
So he is okay sitting in congress and doing NOTHING for the country. 1/2 million dead, but we can't onecaliberal Apr 2021 #20
He's really a republican -enjoys tormenting the "libs" just like MAGA. Peregrine Took Apr 2021 #21
Manchin, "we had an insurrection on January 6, because of voting, right? " NO!!!!!!!! uponit7771 Apr 2021 #22
Well, considering Trump supporters don't seem to value democracy and a whole lot of them Vinca Apr 2021 #23
well... the good news is I see clear sailing for the Infrastructure Bill. WarGamer Apr 2021 #24
And if Manchin obstructs the voting bill wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #25
HR1 is dead Bill walking... WarGamer Apr 2021 #27
It could have been passed wellst0nev0ter Apr 2021 #28
they'd have to kill the filibuster WarGamer Apr 2021 #32
Oh not yet. Amy K told TRMS they have plan for passing HR1. She's not one to give lip service PortTack Apr 2021 #31
Yeah EndlessWire Apr 2021 #39
We will lose control of Congress if he blocks the For the People Act. Efilroft Sul Apr 2021 #26
Had Manchin been around on January 1, 1863, he probably would have insisted ... 11 Bravo Apr 2021 #29
I know the rules here, but F*CK, he makes me so angry. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #30

Botany

(76,697 posts)
5. That is like saying after seeing the attempted coup/riot on 1/6/21 that democrats need to work ...
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

... with the party that was behind that violence.

lame54

(39,317 posts)
6. They weren't happy when they were in charge of everything...
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:28 PM
Apr 2021

The only thing that will make them happy is an all out Russian attack on the Whitehouse

Bettie

(19,446 posts)
15. It would make them happy if everyone but
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:52 PM
Apr 2021

them was dead.

Nah, then they'd fight among themselves over which brand of evangelical religion would be ascendant.

belpejic

(787 posts)
18. I concur
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:00 PM
Apr 2021

Someone has his nuts in a vise, and that someone really doesn't support unions (which get a big push in the infrastructure bill), voting rights, or both.

* Edited to include, as someone mentioned below, campaign finance as well.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
10. What world does Manchin live in? It's certainly not this one.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:32 PM
Apr 2021

I'm so tired of the impossible conditions he's been setting on any issue to get his cooperation. What a republican in sheep clothing.

Bettie

(19,446 posts)
17. He must want something really, really big
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:53 PM
Apr 2021

and he's doubling and tripling down to get it.

Maybe he wants his horrible daughter to head the FDA or something.

Bettie

(19,446 posts)
36. She was the CEO of a pharma company....
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 06:11 PM
Apr 2021
https://www.cnn.com/2016/09/07/politics/manchin-defends-bresch-mylan-epipen-price/index.html

(CNN) —
West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin defended his daughter in an interview Tuesday after the pharmaceutical company she leads raised the price of EpiPens – a move that thrust the father-daughter pair into the center of the political debate over healthcare costs and drug prices.

Bresch became a target of derision over the summer after a nearly 500% increase in the cost of the lifesaving allergy drug EpiPen, which is one of the company’s signature products. The drug, which cost around $100 in 2009, shot up to as much as $600.

The move sparked outrage from parents with children who rely on the drug, and even prompted comments from Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton on the need to rein in rising drug costs. One of those parents was actually a colleague of Manchin – Minnesota Sen. Amy Klobuchar – and multiple members of Congress called for hearings on the spiking cost.

In the interview, Manchin suggested that the controversy was a “blessing in disguise” because it would lead to greater attention to the challenge of rising drug costs.

TwilightZone

(28,836 posts)
35. He lives in a state where people expect him to act in a bipartisan manner.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 06:09 PM
Apr 2021

That's why they elected him in the first place and why they have reelected him. In fact, it's the primary reason we have a Democratic senator in a state Trump won by 40 points.

Should he do what his constituents want? Clearly many don't think so. Personally, I wish he'd get on board with all major legislation that we're trying to pass, but I understand why he does what he does.

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
38. Sucks to be him then
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 11:30 PM
Apr 2021

because he will be remembered as a closet Republican. He's an obstacle in the way of Democracy. He's completely selfish, and supports fascists.

I don't want to live under fascism, and don't want to see what they will do to us if they ever get back in power. And, I am completely sick of Joe Manchin and his obstructionist ways. Wasn't the wife's job enough?

I want to change his first name from Joe. Something else. Joe is for OUR guy.

 

zaj

(3,433 posts)
11. HR1 is hugely popular with Republicans
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 02:32 PM
Apr 2021
"Republicans are concerned about the bipartisan popularity of the campaign finance provisions of HR1, the voting rights package recently passed by the House.


According to the New Yorker, which obtained a recording of a private meeting between a policy adviser to Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) and leaders of many conservative groups, public messaging against those provisions is not going well.

Specifically, support for the bill’s measures forcing more disclosures of secret donors was so broad that a senior operative from the Koch network advised just killing it in Congress rather than trying to turn the tide of public opinion. Currently, S1, HR1’s Senate complement, would face the 60-vote threshold of the filibuster and seems unlikely to garner Republican support.

Kyle McKenzie, the research director for the Koch-run advocacy group Stand Together, reportedly said during the meeting that people found the argument that the bill would stop billionaires from buying elections extremely compelling.

“Unfortunately, we’ve found that that is a winning message, for both the general public and also conservatives,” he reportedly said."




https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/republican-hr1-s1-warnock-koch
 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
20. So he is okay sitting in congress and doing NOTHING for the country. 1/2 million dead, but we can't
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:07 PM
Apr 2021

help. He doesn't say anything about that. This is sad, and it may get a hide but I am going to say it anyway. Based solely on his own statements Manchin seems to sympathize with those who stormed the capitol. The white grievance brigade.

Peregrine Took

(7,583 posts)
21. He's really a republican -enjoys tormenting the "libs" just like MAGA.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:20 PM
Apr 2021

I hope he is shunned by the Dems.

I wouldn't ride in the same elevator withhim.

uponit7771

(93,504 posts)
22. Manchin, "we had an insurrection on January 6, because of voting, right? " NO!!!!!!!!
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:26 PM
Apr 2021

Fuck man !!!

1/6 happened because Putin's Whore CONTINUED to lie to people...

I'm holding out but I'm losing hope with this guy, that quote is a kick in the minerals.

Vinca

(53,555 posts)
23. Well, considering Trump supporters don't seem to value democracy and a whole lot of them
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:31 PM
Apr 2021

are racists, I doubt they will ever be happy with anything. What a stupid fucking thing for Manchin to say. This guy has got to go the next time he's up. Surely there is a bona fide Democrat who can win a race in that state. Enough already.

WarGamer

(18,328 posts)
24. well... the good news is I see clear sailing for the Infrastructure Bill.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:33 PM
Apr 2021

And I bet we can get universal enhanced background checks for firearms.

Beyond those two things, I can't see much more being done with this Congress.

 

wellst0nev0ter

(7,509 posts)
25. And if Manchin obstructs the voting bill
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:36 PM
Apr 2021

Say goodbye to Democratic governance for another decade.

I only wish Democrats had any semblance of urgency in 2009-2010 instead of defunding Acorn over a lie.

WarGamer

(18,328 posts)
32. they'd have to kill the filibuster
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 05:16 PM
Apr 2021

And then Keep Manchin and Sinema in line...

And then survive a SCOTUS case.

What would Barf, GoodHair, Sleepy, Handmaiden, Scalito and JR do?

Mobilize for the GOTV effort of all time in 22.

PortTack

(35,816 posts)
31. Oh not yet. Amy K told TRMS they have plan for passing HR1. She's not one to give lip service
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 04:38 PM
Apr 2021

Did not expound on the details, but I don’t think it’s dead. She obviously thinks manchin will come around, but he has to be shown the qgop isn’t going to work with Joe Biden

Efilroft Sul

(4,368 posts)
26. We will lose control of Congress if he blocks the For the People Act.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:36 PM
Apr 2021

Don't kid yourself thinking we'll pick up seats with all the voter suppression bills happening in the Republican-controlled states. It won't happen no matter how much you get out the vote with no election protection.

You don't play ball with assholes for the sake of "bipartisanship." You saw what happened January 6. You don't negotiate with terrorists.

11 Bravo

(24,292 posts)
29. Had Manchin been around on January 1, 1863, he probably would have insisted ...
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 03:52 PM
Apr 2021

that the Ku Klux Klan sign off on the Emancipation Proclamation.

Because ... unity ... or something.

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