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duforsure

(11,885 posts)
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 04:23 AM Apr 2021

Could businesses charge consumers differently based on if they haven't gotten vaccinated?

Could say airlines charge people more if not vaccinated? Health Insurance companies ? I'm sure there are many different area's that could be applied to cover cleaning costs, or increased risk for hospitalization costs. Could businesses do this passing their additional costs onto those who refuse to get their vaccinations?

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Could businesses charge consumers differently based on if they haven't gotten vaccinated? (Original Post) duforsure Apr 2021 OP
I think it would be less problematic to give a discount Wanderlust988 Apr 2021 #1
Excellent idea. murielm99 Apr 2021 #2
discounts could work, but , duforsure Apr 2021 #3
Health insurance does it with smoking; incentivize the reduction of covid too? Captain Zero Apr 2021 #6
I doubt that would be legal left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #4
Businesses have the right to refuse service duforsure Apr 2021 #5
When I said "I doubt it would be legal" ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #7
Member prices v. non-member prices. JanMichael Apr 2021 #13
That's stretching it left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #14
Deny "membership". I should have added that. JanMichael Apr 2021 #16
What do customers have a right to know arlyellowdog Apr 2021 #8
No, they would likely be sued for racial discrimination MichMan Apr 2021 #9
Perhaps the Federal government could make it a requirement MichMan Apr 2021 #10
proof of vaccine or negative pcr to board a plane or ship. WarGamer Apr 2021 #25
Florida governor orde red d_r Apr 2021 #11
Private businesses Claire Oh Nette Apr 2021 #20
But it likely would result in discrimination against a protected class MichMan Apr 2021 #24
I 🤔 think it is businesses d_r Apr 2021 #27
No real way to tell who got the vaccine! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #12
Cards with the vaccination data are given to those who got vaccinated left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #15
Yes, and they are so easy to fake that they are worthless as proof! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #17
One person's opinion is ... left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #18
Here is a link for you.... USALiberal Apr 2021 #21
Got one in my wallet left-of-center2012 Apr 2021 #23
In Indiana there's a database of who got it. Captain Zero Apr 2021 #19
Good idea to have the state track it! Nt USALiberal Apr 2021 #22
This is a running red herring GusBob Apr 2021 #26

Wanderlust988

(509 posts)
1. I think it would be less problematic to give a discount
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 04:36 AM
Apr 2021

to people who have gotten vaccinated as opposed to raising the price just for vaccinated people...a coupon or rewards-like program if you will.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
3. discounts could work, but ,
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:30 AM
Apr 2021

Not raising the price for vaccinated people, raising the price of un-vaccinated people to help cover the cleaning costs they create. If taken to court I think businesses could win to cover money they have to put out because of them, and encourage people get vaccinated. Health insurance companies especially, and airlines. sporting events.
Discounts or any way to charge vaccinated people differently would work. We're already seeing free donuts, drinks and other free products for people vaccinated. Companies are having to pay additional costs to treat area's , and either have to accept lower profits , or recoup them , and those refusing to get vaccinated are costing them, and should be held financially responsible. Or should companies just say no vaccination card, no mask, no service?

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
6. Health insurance does it with smoking; incentivize the reduction of covid too?
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 06:12 AM
Apr 2021

Before I retired my company and others were offering lower insurance rates if a person was a non-smoker or if a person began a plan to reduce or quit they got a refund. Seems to me it could be an INCENTIVE to reduce your costs for insurance. Why not? Give everyone until a certain date and then if they have not done it they are locked in at a higher rate for the rest of the year.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
4. I doubt that would be legal
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:31 AM
Apr 2021

However being discussed is allowing people who have been vaccinated to fly or into a business.

There was a man on the news last night who owns a restaurant.
People who have been vaccinated are allowed inside while those who have not been vaccinated have to eat outside or use take out.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
5. Businesses have the right to refuse service
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:50 AM
Apr 2021

No shoes, no shirt, some no mask. Not sure the reason they couldn't use vaccination too, like other countries are starting to use for travel. They have costs for cleaning. Not sure the law would side against businesses for doing this, or having a additional charge . Health insurance companies also could do this for increasing their costs for higher risks of higher hospitalization costs.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
7. When I said "I doubt it would be legal" ...
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 07:00 AM
Apr 2021

I meant charging one price to those vaccinated, and another to the unvaccinated.

The right to refuse service, that I understand.
However it too has limitations. For instance race, religion, etc.

JanMichael

(24,885 posts)
13. Member prices v. non-member prices.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 08:22 AM
Apr 2021

Conferences, bars in dry counties, and associations with certifications, do that all of the time. The vaccine is the membership.

left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
14. That's stretching it
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 08:30 AM
Apr 2021

The topic as I understood it was 'denying service to the unvaccinated'.
Not setting up memberships, etc.

Anyway ... enjoy your day.



arlyellowdog

(866 posts)
8. What do customers have a right to know
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 07:16 AM
Apr 2021

Especially when dealing with healthcare people. Long discussion in Nextdoor about getting a new dentist because former dentist was a vaccine denier. The person would not disclose the name of the dentist. I just got a mammogram (I have had cancer). The tech asked when I got my vaccine. Just talking, I asked which vaccine she got and she said, “No I don’t trust them (she was not a Trumper). I was a bit nervous, but I’m vaccinated. The young woman in the waiting room was not. How many mammograms has this tech given to unsuspecting women. We need clarification of our right to know.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
9. No, they would likely be sued for racial discrimination
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 07:58 AM
Apr 2021
Detroit — A majority of southeast Michigan counties are vaccinating residents at twice the rate Detroit is and that gap is threatening to prolong the pandemic in Michigan's largest city and forcing health officials to find alternatives to mass-vaccination sites like the TCF Center and Ford Field.

About 1 in 5, or 21%, of Detroiters have received at least one shot, according to the city's vaccine dashboard, compared to 33% of residents in Macomb County, 40% in suburban Wayne County and 41% in Oakland and Washtenaw counties. Statewide, 37% of all residents have at least one dose.


https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/detroit-city/2021/04/07/detroit-lagging-covid-19-vaccination-rates/7109466002/

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
10. Perhaps the Federal government could make it a requirement
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 08:03 AM
Apr 2021

Proof of vaccination could be a requirement for anyone receiving financial benefits or assistance from the Federal government.

Might be more legal than private business doing it.

Claire Oh Nette

(2,636 posts)
20. Private businesses
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 10:22 AM
Apr 2021

DeathSantis can't tell private sector business what to do. As long as they aren't discriminating against protected classes, they absolutely can require vaccines.

MichMan

(11,915 posts)
24. But it likely would result in discrimination against a protected class
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:08 PM
Apr 2021

Not all races have been vaccinated in equal numbers.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
27. I 🤔 think it is businesses
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 04:41 PM
Apr 2021

With state contracts. I dont know how it impacts theme parks, airlines, cruise ships, chain restaurants or hotels, and so many n. I saw that the Miami food and wine festival was asking to be able to require vaccine and that nova university was going to require.

Captain Zero

(6,805 posts)
19. In Indiana there's a database of who got it.
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 09:33 AM
Apr 2021

Was created on a computer while they manually filled out the CARD.

SO IN Indiana if you present a card, but aren't in the database, you might be committing a criminal act ?

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
26. This is a running red herring
Sat Apr 10, 2021, 05:16 PM
Apr 2021

Just because you haven’t been vaccinated doesn’t make you infected or contagious. You are not a pariah

If you have been vaccinated you may still become infected and contagious. You are not bullet proof

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