Is it possible for Democrats to move farther to the left than Republicans have moved to the right?

[kentuck]

That seems to be what James Carville is afraid of?

Is it possible to go as far cra-cra as the Republicans have gone?

What would the Democrats have to do to accomplish such a great feat?

[Ferrets are Cool]

1. Not as long as we have critters like Manchin.

[Demsrule86]

11. Well we have no majority without Manchin and no liberal or progressive will take his place.

I did a post where I listed all the Democratic Senators who had lost an election or retired and the Republicans beat the candidate...there was over 20 since Obama and we got the seat back in only two cases.

[Ferrets are Cool]

13. Don't you think I've heard that 1000x already?

I can hate the bastard and still be glad he has a D behind his name. I just wish he would act like one.

[Lovie777]

2. In my opinion - no . ...

As the Democratic Party does have independent thought which is frustrating at times. Being a "big" tent party - there can be different opinions, attitudes and mainly pulling out hairs events.

But alas this is how democracy works. As to the RWers, they are your run of mill dictatorship party.

[rampartc]

3. we would have to do what the occupiers should have done in 2012

build a guillotine and demand an end to bail outs, bankers, and foreclosures.

make your own list of demands but don't worry about carville.

carville was correct. "its the economy stupid." we can work towards social justice, but without broad prosperity it will never happen.

i live among these trumpists in louisiana. whenever i hear about gun control, or transgender rights, or reparations, or preferred pronouns etc , well, these things' are not unreasonable, but i know that it will set our economic issues (as well as the people we want to help) back for generations.

[empedocles]

5. Will set back our political issues and prospects, 'for generations'

Poll: Socialism Unpopular Even As Sanders Rises In 2020 ...
https://www.npr.org/2020/02/19/807047941
Feb 19, 2020 · Approval of socialist declines as age rises. But even 50% of Gen Z and millennial respondents (ages 18 to 38) had an unfavorable view of it, as opposed to

[rampartc]

6. i hear you

i am a socialist (in health care at least), but understanding the concept i don't go around talking about it as "socialism." southern trailer parks are full of evangelicals who hate socialists and depend on medicaid.

[dawg]

7. If we move much further to the left ...

we might actually reach the center - at least by the standards of the rest of the developed world's political parties.

[Demsrule86]

10. The rest of the world doesn't vote in our elections so it is immaterial what their political

parties do or don't do.

[Hortensis]

8. No. We're actually quite stable ideologically, where we were through the 1940s-70s

and most of this century. This is proven by many honest studies.

So no one should be fooled by the mind-fuckers into believing we've moved substantially left from where we always were. (Understandable that people who are farther left want to believe the mainstream's joining them, but! No.)

The "practically socialist" Biden of the RW liars and the "practically Republican" Biden of far-left liars are both the same person we're seeing: Biden the typical liberal Democrat. Want to know what Democrats want for our nation: Look at what the Biden administration wants to accomplish. As power and possibilities grow, our hopeful goals grow more and bigger, without significant ideological shift.

Now, anxiety increases extremism, and in this era the LW fringes have grown a bit and their voices become more augmented by modern communications. But those are a minority. Only some of them identify Democrat, and sadly, sometimes tragically, not all of those vote Democrat.

What Carville's worried about is that the hostile messages from mind-fuckers on both left and right that Democrats are going socialist and lunatic0fringey will prevail. That L-R agitprop almost lost us our house majority in 2020 by frightening people into voting Republican to "balance" a Democratic president.

They can do it again, and we know they'll try. Hostiles on the far left have no more limits than those on the right.

[Demsrule86]

9. Not if we want to win elections.

He is afraid we may lose if we move to far to the left...and we might. Although, I do think the country has shifted left since Pres. Clinton.

[jalan48]

12. I don't think our big donors would allow it. Social justice, maybe. Economic justice, no way.