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WhiteTara

(29,705 posts)
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 07:46 AM Apr 2021

'This has never happened': California's only wildfire research center makes scary discovery

https://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/fuel-moisture-content-California-wildfire-16087019.php?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

"I was shocked when we went up there because usually in April we have a lot of new growth and old growth, and we didn’t see any new growth on the shrubs," said Craig Clements, a SJSU professor and director of the center. "We weren't seeing any of the lighter colored, bright green new growth sprouting out of the growth. Usually we take clippings of new stems and there weren't any. This has never happened."

Clements shared an image (above) from the expedition on Twitter and wrote, "The lack of rain this season has severely impacted our chaparral live fuel moistures. Wow, never seen April fuels look so... dry. No new growth anywhere in this Chamise. April is climatologically the highest live FMC of the season. Very Scary!"

This year the fuel-moisture content across the Santa Cruz Mountains is terrifyingly low as the state moves out of a second, consecutive rainy season marked by dry conditions. The 2020-2021 winter was the third driest on record, according to the California Department of Water Resources. The region's reservoirs are beginning to see the impact and are at half their total capacity.

Clements said that the lab manages three FMC sites in the mountain range — the one on Mount Umunhum, another in Scotts Valley, and one in the hills behind Los Gatos — and measurements have all been dismal. All three sites are part of the National Fuel Moisture Database that was launched in 2001 and has become a tool for fire behavior specialists working fires. The data collected in April will be used by firefighting agencies — including Calfire and the U.S. Forest Service — in coming months when blazes spark in the Santa Cruz Mountains and across the state.

Stay safe out there my friends.
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'This has never happened': California's only wildfire research center makes scary discovery (Original Post) WhiteTara Apr 2021 OP
My mother used to say about such events Duppers Apr 2021 #1
what is an RC? msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #8
Real Character? Royal Crown? NurseJackie Apr 2021 #11
ha ha. useless abbreviations.. I try to ignore but wanted to understand msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #12
deleted duplicate msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #13
The 2 largest groups of warming deniers... Duppers Apr 2021 #20
In other Words, Religious Cults, should have thought of it myself. msfiddlestix Apr 2021 #22
You're welcome. Duppers Apr 2021 #23
OMG. That is terrifying in so many ways, Silver Gaia Apr 2021 #2
C3-- catastrophic climate change, is real. We are in for a very scary fire season. niyad Apr 2021 #3
I've been seeing the opposite plant reactions locally. Hugin Apr 2021 #4
What region do you live in? PatSeg Apr 2021 #5
The very center of the desert sw. Hugin Apr 2021 #9
Thanks PatSeg Apr 2021 #15
Very scary! brer cat Apr 2021 #6
Man made SteelSmasher Apr 2021 #7
We are accelerating our demise at an alarming rate. Ferrets are Cool Apr 2021 #10
Large areas of the US Southwest will be rendered uninhabitable NickB79 Apr 2021 #14
Texas Snoopy 7 Apr 2021 #16
It looks really bad, drought and less than 50% snowpack. We have friends Hortensis Apr 2021 #17
The Native Americans who lived in California did not grow crops McCamy Taylor Apr 2021 #18
And the dry conditions will only become worse. Duppers Apr 2021 #21
Oregon is a mix. LizBeth Apr 2021 #19
Where have all the animals gone? womanofthehills Apr 2021 #24

msfiddlestix

(7,281 posts)
12. ha ha. useless abbreviations.. I try to ignore but wanted to understand
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:59 AM
Apr 2021

the reference.. pointless I guess.

Duppers

(28,120 posts)
20. The 2 largest groups of warming deniers...
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 06:26 PM
Apr 2021

Republican // Christians.

These Christian think only god can control these things, so we shouldn't worry. Or if we're being harmed, it's because of our sins.

Yes, our "sins" of our use of polluting fossil fuel burning & our overly populating the planet which cannot support 8+Billion people. But these Repub Christians won't acknowledge these things.



Duppers

(28,120 posts)
23. You're welcome.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:16 AM
Apr 2021

Glad you asked! In retrospect, think most folks probably didn't know what I was talking about either.


Hugin

(33,135 posts)
4. I've been seeing the opposite plant reactions locally.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:10 AM
Apr 2021

Everything is blooming like crazy.

Which is also bad because it means the plants are stressed. We had a brief burst of moisture about a month ago and the native fauna is drought resistant. I only hope they can complete their cycle before they dry out and die in bloom which looking at the extended forecast is doubtful.

Hugin

(33,135 posts)
9. The very center of the desert sw.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:37 AM
Apr 2021

After that spate of moisture we've been at 5% humidity for the last three weeks with a steady wind/breeze.

I can only remember one similar incident decades ago when during a very cold winter we had a false summer and everything bloomed with leaves coming out. The cold returned killing all of the new growth. When spring came for real there was quite a bit of second growth. That was a bad fire season during the summer.

PatSeg

(47,419 posts)
15. Thanks
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:16 AM
Apr 2021

I kind of figured that's where you were. Climate change is profoundly affecting pretty much everyone now.

SteelSmasher

(35 posts)
7. Man made
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:29 AM
Apr 2021

I don't know how much of this drought is man made but companies using California's water for soda and bottled water has not helped.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,106 posts)
10. We are accelerating our demise at an alarming rate.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 09:52 AM
Apr 2021

We are killing the oceans, the Artic ice and the rainforest. The human race is farked. It is only a matter or when, not if.

NickB79

(19,236 posts)
14. Large areas of the US Southwest will be rendered uninhabitable
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:11 AM
Apr 2021

And not far off, 100 or 200 yr from now. I'm 41; I'll certainly see American climate refugees fleeing en mass in my lifetime. We're going to see a repeat of the Okie caravans of the Dust Bowl, only traveling in a different direction. More north this time.

I shudder to imagine what my 11-yr old daughter will see in her's.

Snoopy 7

(527 posts)
16. Texas
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:17 AM
Apr 2021

Texas is also bad we went into stage 1 water restrictions a week ago, we usually don't do that until mid-summer. The heat hasn't even started and the plants are still suffering from that weird (but fun) snow storm, mid March, which was followed by a hail storm a week ago. We lost oxygen makers (plants) and there are a lot her that are showing their stress. Our Oak tree is showing stress with leaves growing on the trunk, it's trying to produce photosynthesis as much as possible but I'm afraid it's not going to make it. FERRETS ARE COOL is absolutely right...

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
17. It looks really bad, drought and less than 50% snowpack. We have friends
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 10:28 AM
Apr 2021

all over California, and a half sister in the Sierra Nevada, and they're all at risk, even in cities.

LizBeth

(9,952 posts)
19. Oregon is a mix.
Sun Apr 11, 2021, 01:56 PM
Apr 2021

Further north of course, the better off. In Eugene we are a little behind in rain but further south, severe drought which brings the fires. It was hell here for a time last summer with a fire on top of Eugene. Mask for walking dog because of fire rather than mask for covid. I even used the filters for the fire unlike with covid.

womanofthehills

(8,703 posts)
24. Where have all the animals gone?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 12:34 AM
Apr 2021

I live in the middle of NM - 6500 ft - some call it high desert. Last yr we had a mice & pack rat infestation with more than the usual number of squirrels , lizards & rattlesnakes. Fewer bunnies because of some bunny disease. But ..it’s like the mice and rats have disappeared along with most of the rabbits, lizards and squirrels. Maybe hungry coyotes have eaten them all???? Might be the drought but there is always food for animals on my land - lots of cactus and chicken scratch plus I have a small fish pond so there is always water. It’s creeping me out because it’s so abnormal. So far my trees still look good with new growth (juniper and pinyon) from a little winter snow but if we get a pathetic monsoon again this yr - I’m worried about forest fires. My best girlfriend is the fire lookout up on the mountain and she’s good because she has been doing it for many yrs - so that’s one small comforting thing. I do have lots of ravens though!

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