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I've been condo neighbors for about thirteen years now with a couple about my same age, mid 60's. Well, sort of neighbors, because she moved out about six years ago and just comes around on a regular basis.
Until about a month ago, that is. You see, he's always been extremely diabetic, type 1, the worst lifelong kind. Very thin man because he has to be extremely careful about what he eats, and his outbursts of anger are probably due to his disease. So, over the years he's been alternately very cordial to me and then very in-my-face "you're a goddamn dumbass just like every other fucking liberal!" He's horribly racist, too... I've never heard him use the n-word, but he might as well have for all the shit that spews from his mouth. I just blew it all off, attributing it all to his disease, more amused than anything because he's pretty feeble... and because my dog is in love with his.
She, on the other is very sweet. She moved out when in one of his mood swings he grabbed her by her throat and slammed her up against a wall.... she finally heeded the advice of her own children to leave him, but from a sense of duty to their father and because she felt guilty about leaving such a sick man home alone she still visits on a regular basis to make sure he's alive and properly nourished.
Well, things changed dramatically last month when she came by and discovered him quaking on the floor, drooling in a pile of sweat. He had had a severe stroke, and now she's had to commit him to a permanent care facility... where he now believes he's a teenager on vacation in some swanky hotel and Ronald Reagan is our current president. It's all pretty sad, actually... I never wished ill on the man, although I honestly don't miss him... for obvious reasons.
This is getting long, I know....
So, now that he's gone she has moved back into the house, along with a female roommate. They're both very, very sweet and friendly, and last night when they invited me over for a shot of rum or two I accepted without reservation. Turns out she also had her new boyfriend over.
Anyway, I brought along the game Codenames, thinking that the four of us might enjoy it, especially after a nip or two. And so we did, for the most part... until two of the words on the board were "America" and "vet". So, she gave the clue "trump". I said "trump?". She replied, "yeah, donald". It was her first time ever playing the game, so I started laughing and said "you know you're not supposed to use proper nouns, though I admit he's very improper".
She: "He's for America first and cares about our vets. Biden doesn't care at all about our veterans!"
The situation quickly dissolved from there...
Me: "No, I don't buy that Mr. Bonespurs cares about our veterans. And unlike that trump monster President Biden is a very decent man."
She: "Biden doesn't even deserve to be president. He stole the election!"
OK, I suspected that she was a Republican, as is almost everybody else in this neighborhood, but had no idea she was such a trumpian.
"trump! trump! trump!" she started chanting. And then even worse she belted out "Q! Q! Q! I never told you this but I went to a trump rally and had the best time of my life!"
A lot of alcohol was talking now, because I doubt that she would have gone into any of this if it weren't for the rum. I just accidentally messed up the cards on the table and said "oops! Game over!"
LisaL
(44,973 posts)I don't want to deal with any Trumpers.
I no longer discuss politics with idiot trumpers. Life is so much better that way.
Rorey
(8,445 posts)I'm so sorry you have to live so close to an idiot like that.
I have a neighbor whom I know is a Republican, but we never talked politics until right after the last election. She brought it up, not me. She was pretty upset, and we haven't talked all that much since then.
We were never super close. We'd chat when we were in our yards, and we call each other a few times a year. On the other side of her is another strong Democrat, but I know they don't talk politics with each other.
I hope you can figure out a way to live peaceably so close to that nutcase.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)That would have been when I said goodnight.
North Shore Chicago
(3,316 posts)My neighbor and I had a good relationship until he went full MAGA. I know everything I need to know about you if you are a trump supporter.
Numerous relationships soiled by trump.
MOMFUDSKI
(5,530 posts)your sentiment that you know everything you need to if someone is a trump supporter. Michael Cohen's pod had John Dean on and Dean said with a lot of research they found a trumper is a person with not much inner confidence and NEEDS a daddy figure. Simple but sure makes sense to me. Also that they are not terribly informed or smart people. Check.
Arkansas Granny
(31,516 posts)other social interaction.
PJMcK
(22,037 posts)My contempt for anyone who believes Trump's crap is absolute. So I just start laughing and refuse to say anything more.
Drives 'em crazy.
chia
(2,244 posts)I can't imagine sitting at that table with that happening. Makes me mentally break out in a cold sweat.
Find your doggy a new doggy friend!
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)WTF? Who behaves like that, at that age?
llashram
(6,265 posts)yesterday. Will not take the shot. Feels trump was sent by his god. It may be true but his god had to come from south to north. I never realized how ignorant 70 million voters for their living god are. Just swamp creature ugly.
tanyev
(42,556 posts)LisaL
(44,973 posts)NT
Goodheart
(5,324 posts)But she's had both doses of Moderna, the second upon which she got sick for a couple of days.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)In my personal experience with Trump loving Qanon/conspiracy theories believers, they don't get vaccinated.
All three were vaccinated.
tanyev
(42,556 posts)I presume you are vaccinated too. Im waiting for my 2nd shot so the idea of going into someone elses house is still freaking me out a little bit.
until you are fully vaccinated-two weeks after second dose.
tanyev
(42,556 posts)Even after two weeks post shot I plan to keep wearing a mask and social distance. The two things I might change are switching from grocery curbside pickup to going inside the store (with mask) and eating my lunch inside the building at work. Ive been going out to my car to eat for six months now. Id happily keep doing that, but pretty soon its going to be too smoking hot in Texas.
PatSeg
(47,430 posts)Like perhaps The Body Snatchers or some futuristic science fiction story where you are surrounded by creatures who look human, but they aren't. It really feels like some kind of mass insanity.
appalachiablue
(41,131 posts)very involved with military families. The Trump's have no service members and Cadet Bonespurs.
The ignorance and folly of these followers is shocking. Like conservative middle aged and older CT, celeb and Trump 'Woodstock' fans.
LisaM
(27,811 posts)that she honestly doesn't understand what brain-sucking worm has gotten into the heads of these people.
kimbutgar
(21,147 posts)74 million people infected by the bs rhetoric like lapdogs with worms.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,491 posts)and that's exactly where they want us. When we're divided, we don't stir up any trouble as a group.
Look at it this way: If it were not for political and social divisions, you and your neighbor lady might unite to build a community center, help the homeless or help maintain a park together and as a result, unite to vote for what's best for our nation. As it is, those things are far less likely to happen in your community.
When I was young in the 50s and 60s, people or all stripes and incomes came together for schools, churches and communities without regard for politics.
Sadly, this is the new America and it's heartbreaking........
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)Its been my experience that most of the Trumper types are far too selfish to consider doing anything as altruistic as building anything but for themselves.
Speaking of which, in spite of most everything being handed down to them and all the built in advantages they have standing on the shoulders of giants? they think they did it all themselves and any minority getting ahead some in life somehow, some way comes at their expense and diminishes them somehow.
And paranoid? Gets worse every year they age it seems.
Fla Dem
(23,668 posts)Anybody the devoted where she is chanting QQQ, is as crazy as they come and I agree, it was a horror show.
RicROC
(1,204 posts)the craziness of her ex-husband. Now, it's out in the open that she's just as crazy- maybe she drove him to insanity.
BlueJac
(7,838 posts)Hoping not to dream about it.
summer_in_TX
(2,738 posts)I hate the way RW propaganda has divided us, and turned otherwise decent, caring people into unwitting pawns. Divide and conquer.
It burns me to see their hatred-for-profit business model turn people into unthinking tools in the control of those who care nothing for them and their well-being!
Shermann
(7,413 posts)I have to say there is some unintended humor there for me.
Woodwizard
(842 posts)I mostly ignore them most are not following politics at all, it seems more of a I came from a family of republicans so I am one mentality.
Except for one neighbor he is a bit of a nut, on disability but yells about all the people taking from society Not sure what his disability is he is ten years younger than me and gets around fine. He did work for the MTA so probably got some claim there. Came to my shop looking for work off the books a few years ago. I gave him info on a shop looking for people of course he never applied.
Initech
(100,072 posts)vercetti2021
(10,156 posts)Bye bye bye. I'm leaving.
Ligyron
(7,632 posts)Sounds like shes drunk and Ii love with the sound of her own voice and the possibility of triggering the lib.
Bet she doesnt even believe that Q crap, just wanted to piss you off.
HA! My Sunday amateur armchair analysis from 60 thousand feet.
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kairos12
(12,861 posts)Truth serum. Unfortunately.
In vino veritas.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Especially with our intro to her being her sweetness. What will you do now that she's shown her true colours?
My very personal opinion that I expect no one to adopt is that...it doesn't matter what other isms or attitudes she or someone like her might adopt, they are not good people.
Goodheart
(5,324 posts)And I did.
While I was working she said "I love that in this country we can have different opinions."
And I said "But we can't have different facts. Facts are facts. And I know them, and you don't."
Then I hushed her up or I wouldn't finish the job.
LOL
BobTheSubgenius
(11,563 posts)Remained a good neighbour and someone she can consider a friend, but didn't back down and compromise your beliefs.