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JohnSJ

(92,174 posts)
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 09:59 AM Apr 2021

Glenn Greenwald defends Matt Gaetz's right to have sex with 'consenting' 17-year-old girl

Libertarian journalist Glenn Greenwald, a frequent Fox News guest, this week said that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) has the right to have sex with a "consenting" 17-year-old girl.

Greenwald made the remarks on Twitter although Gaetz has denied that he had sex with a 17-year-old girl. Gaetz has also said that he is innocent of sex trafficking allegations.

"All or some of these accusations against Rep. Gaetz very well may be true and, one day — perhaps imminently — there will be ample publicly available evidence demonstrating this," Greenwald wrote on Twitter. "But that day has not yet arrived. That should matter for how the case is discussed."

He went on to note that the age of consent is 16 or 17 in 37 states, although it's illegal for a 38-year-old man to have sex with a 17-year-old girl in Florida.


https://www.rawstory.com/glenn-greenwald-matt-gaetz/

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Glenn Greenwald defends Matt Gaetz's right to have sex with 'consenting' 17-year-old girl (Original Post) JohnSJ Apr 2021 OP
I do think a standard for all states is needed jimfields33 Apr 2021 #1
Excuse me but that's not the point... agingdem Apr 2021 #3
I think what he is saying is whether it is statuary rape or not depends on your state. cinematicdiversions Apr 2021 #6
It does need standardized qazplm135 Apr 2021 #13
In addition, we are talking about sex trafficking, and the use of drugs to facilitate that, along JohnSJ Apr 2021 #9
In Florida that is true. jimfields33 Apr 2021 #15
I can hear that slimy moronic Gaetz's defense now... agingdem Apr 2021 #16
I am glad they have a ton of other charges to get him on. jimfields33 Apr 2021 #17
No it is not, you are legally incorrect depending in the state. Celerity Apr 2021 #21
Here's a universally applicable standard gratuitous Apr 2021 #20
Someone here asked why Greenwald was held in such disdain now, when a decade or more ago, he was hlthe2b Apr 2021 #2
why the hell is that ass Greenwald defending Gaetz at all?... agingdem Apr 2021 #5
He is being highly misleading as pointed out in the article dsc Apr 2021 #4
and he is an elected representative in Florida. Greenwald is also following the typical republican JohnSJ Apr 2021 #11
Defending the qgop....maybe he'll come up with a defense for the other crimes he's charged with PortTack Apr 2021 #7
The press and everyone else (including me) needs to ignore everything Greenwald says. LonePirate Apr 2021 #8
what a putz... gaetz won't be charged with statutory rape..... getagrip_already Apr 2021 #10
+++ JohnSJ Apr 2021 #12
Agreed, it's the paying for it and crossing state lines that ultimately will do him in. crickets Apr 2021 #23
For a grown man to have sex with a minor girl less than half his age MineralMan Apr 2021 #14
Age of Consent in Brazil is 14. If 12-13, a 5-year age gap applies. So a 54-yo man can fuck a 14-yo. TheBlackAdder Apr 2021 #18
Glenn Greenwald is a sick basterd ! stonecutter357 Apr 2021 #19
I think this says it best True Dough Apr 2021 #22

jimfields33

(15,786 posts)
1. I do think a standard for all states is needed
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:02 AM
Apr 2021

It is weird to think you can have sex in DC but not Florida.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
3. Excuse me but that's not the point...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:09 AM
Apr 2021

consent or no consent sex with a 17 year old is still statutory rape...

 

cinematicdiversions

(1,969 posts)
6. I think what he is saying is whether it is statuary rape or not depends on your state.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:21 AM
Apr 2021

Nothing to do with consent.

qazplm135

(7,447 posts)
13. It does need standardized
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:35 AM
Apr 2021

Another quirk is that you can have sex with someone legally in some states at 16 or 17, but if you take pics, it's federal child porn.

Make it all 18 is the easiest solution.

JohnSJ

(92,174 posts)
9. In addition, we are talking about sex trafficking, and the use of drugs to facilitate that, along
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:26 AM
Apr 2021

with other issues.

Is it any surprise that he was the only Congress person to vote against anti-sex trafficking legislation?





agingdem

(7,849 posts)
16. I can hear that slimy moronic Gaetz's defense now...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:07 AM
Apr 2021

Judge... I may have "allegedly" picked her up in Florida but I waited until I crossed into Georgia to exchange body fluids...

Celerity

(43,333 posts)
21. No it is not, you are legally incorrect depending in the state.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:29 AM
Apr 2021

If the age of consent is 17 and there are no 'close age' add-ons, then a 17 year old having consensual, non prostituted sex with anyone 17 and older, be they 18, 28, 38, 48, 58, ect., is not statutory rape.

In common law jurisdictions, statutory rape is nonforcible sexual activity in which one of the individuals is below the age of consent (the age required to legally consent to the behavior).

hlthe2b

(102,234 posts)
2. Someone here asked why Greenwald was held in such disdain now, when a decade or more ago, he was
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:04 AM
Apr 2021

considered in a much more favorable, even progressive light.

Well, this isn't the reason, but it is a GOOD one. What a creep.

agingdem

(7,849 posts)
5. why the hell is that ass Greenwald defending Gaetz at all?...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:16 AM
Apr 2021

what's in it for him?...is he trying to justify something similar in his own life?..a guy in his 30s having sex with a 17 year old is not like two horny teenagers in the back of dad's van...

dsc

(52,160 posts)
4. He is being highly misleading as pointed out in the article
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:14 AM
Apr 2021

he conflates states which permit a Romeo and Juliet exception with states that outright have a 16 year old age of consent. But in any case, assuming this is true, Mr. Gaetz broke the law and ignorance of said law would be no excuse. I tend to think 18 is a more reasonable age of consent in terms of wide age gaps than 16. But even if I didn't think that, what matters is what Florida thinks.

JohnSJ

(92,174 posts)
11. and he is an elected representative in Florida. Greenwald is also following the typical republican
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:31 AM
Apr 2021

playbook of distraction, and ignoring the questions of sex trafficking, and using drugs to facilitate that

LonePirate

(13,417 posts)
8. The press and everyone else (including me) needs to ignore everything Greenwald says.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:25 AM
Apr 2021

Just like with the former guy, stop giving him oxygen to spread his nonsense.

getagrip_already

(14,739 posts)
10. what a putz... gaetz won't be charged with statutory rape.....
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:30 AM
Apr 2021

He will be charged with pandering, transporting a minor across state/international lines for prostitution, and sex trafficking. He may also be charged with election tampering and election funds violations (if he expensed any of his shenanigans as campaign expenses, that's a felony).

Sex is not considered consensual if you paid for it. It has nothing to do with the age of consent. That his targets were minors is major disgusting to boot.

But I doubt they will hit him with statutory rape, though they could.

crickets

(25,963 posts)
23. Agreed, it's the paying for it and crossing state lines that ultimately will do him in.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 05:39 PM
Apr 2021

Election funds violations also are likely. I dearly wish statutory rape charges would stick as well. What a scum.

MineralMan

(146,288 posts)
14. For a grown man to have sex with a minor girl less than half his age
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 10:41 AM
Apr 2021

is simply wrong. That is simply a fact.

I stress the word "minor" here. Regardless of the legal age of consent, it is simply inappropriate and predatory.

There is a huge difference between a 21-year-old having sex with a 17-year-old and a 38-year-old doing the same.

Matt Gaetz is an obvious sexual predator. The 21-year-old is not necessarily a sexual predator.

Once both parties are no longer minors, all bets are off, really. In Florida and in Federal law, the age of majority is 18.

Leave the kids alone, Gaetz, you felonious, predatory creep!

TheBlackAdder

(28,186 posts)
18. Age of Consent in Brazil is 14. If 12-13, a 5-year age gap applies. So a 54-yo man can fuck a 14-yo.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 11:20 AM
Apr 2021

.

Libertarians are all about THEIR rights. Me, Me, ME!

So we know that Greenwald thinks it's OK for old men to have sex with teens if Age of Consent allows it.

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