"Susan Sarandon just had a racism induced stroke."

[NurseJackie]

Link to tweet

A Podcast Microphone is not a Nipple
@WelchRobertII

Susan Sarandon just had a racism induced stroke.

Deb Haaland
@DebHaalandNM

@DoloresHuerta

[SCantiGOP]

1. What's the connection to Sarandon?

N/T

[jcgoldie]

2. ...

https://m.dailykos.com/stories/2016/2/22/1489132/-Video-of-Susan-Sarandon-Harassing-Dolores-Huerta

[LiberalLovinLug]

22. OMG an activist confronted a labor leader about her support for a candidate!!!!!

...that supported GMOs and took money from Monsanto.


OMG it was a celebrity!!!!

OMG it was one of the the "leftist liberal elite" that Fox News warned us about!!!!

OMG she was a Bernie Supporter!!!!!

OMG she MUST be a racist!!!!

OMG this was only 5 years ago!!!!!

[George II]

29. That was FAR from merely being "confronted". It may have been 5 years ago (when Huerta....

....was "only" 86 years old), but now five years later Sarandon has yet to apologize to Dolores Huerta.

You may want to joke about it and diminish it, but not many Democrats have your sentiments.

[George II]

39. No "lol" about it! This has nothing to do with "Hillary" (why mention that in the first place?)....

It has to do with a woman accosting and screaming at an 86 year old woman who has devoted her life to the cause of workers and unions. Even if she disagreed, there is a respectful way to approach it, not lurk in a hallway and do what she did. She was totally out of line and disrespectful to Dolores Huerta.

Why did Sarandon need to find out Huerta's position in the first place? Obviously she was there BECAUSE she knew her position.

[LiberalLovinLug]

42. The conversation was all ABOUT Hillary

It was directly about Hillary, and her taking of Monsanto's money, and questioning Huerta's support of that. If someone here is going to regurgitate this incident up, at least lets have the facts straight.

And Susan did not need to "find out Huerta's position" on topics such as Monsanto. Huerta has always been quite clear on Monsanto's insistence on the use of their herbicide Roundup;

https://msmagazine.com/2015/05/04/dolores-huerta-still-fighting-for-farmworkers-rights/

Legendary feminist and workers’ rights activist Dolores Huerta, who cofounded the United Farm Workers union with Cesar Chavez in the 1960s, recently traveled to Washington, D.C. to sound the alarm on a common herbicide used on millions of acres of cropland in the U.S. that could be endangering the health and lives of the very people who produce our food—farmworkers and their families.



Which is the reason Susan was so flabbergasted why Huerta would not support the candidate that speaks out against Monsanto's influence and the health threat against farm workers and instead was backing the candidate that takes their money. (I'm not judging her, she had her reasons. May be as simple as she wanted to publically back the inevitable winner early, but in that moment, even I would want to know why)

[George II]

46. Thankfully NONE of our candidates are one-issue Democrats. And workers' rights activist....

....Dolores Huerta DID work to get the dangerous herbicide banned or its use reduced, in fact she did more that Sarandon ever did.

Susan Sarandon should have known this before she accosted her and screamed at her about an issue that Huerta worked harder to resolve than she did herself.

Like most surrogates and Americans, Huerta took everything into account, not just one issue, before deciding upon who to support.

And again, there were much more respectful ways of approaching the issue with Delores Huerta. But I guess Sarandon thought a face-to-face public confrontation would have been a better "show"?

Now, please stop fighting the 2016 Democratic Primary, okay LiberalLovinLug?

[betsuni]

48. What do you mean by "taking of Monsanto's money"?

[Hortensis]

78. The poor judgement of all who deceived themselves

into voting against or not voting for Democrats, or Hillary specifically, by eagerly soaking up all the hostile spins and lies necessary to do that continues to amaze.

Honest people accept facts when they run up against them, instead of rejecting all that don't please , and of course have the cognitive ability to recognize and accurately evaluate reality. The difference between those who indulge their leanings, whether trumpists or the self-Hillary-deranged and the outright Q-nuts is in the direction of leaning and how far they follow lies and ignore truth. Not whether they do.

After all this time without shame or change, I believe Sarandon's an irredeemable idiot. If she could do 2016 all over again, she'd probably do it all the same, just restate a few comments that came back to bite her.

[BlueLucy]

84. Sarandon didn't have to behave like an aggressive bully.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

33. Is there a transcript? Didn't look like a harassing episode imho

From body language

[Cha]

66. There's Nothing funny about that... it was

Despicable from that 3rd party Lying POS Susan Sarandon.. spewing "Hillary is more Dangerous than trump" & refusing to ever admit she was wrong.

She's a dangerous privileged self-centered asshole... thinking she's always right.. when she is Always WRONG.

[lagomorph777]

3. Six degreees.

People who spend their days obsessing on Sarandon can find connections everywhere. It's like an ancient aliens thing.

[George II]

11. The fact is "activist" Susan Sarandon DID accost a TRUE activist and Union organizer and....

....poke her finger in her face and scream at her, probably totally oblivious of all that Dolores Huerta did for the working class and union movement. Huerta was in the trenches for decades, not commenting from afar.

It's not "obsessing" or "ancient". It was a disrespectful attack on Huerta for which she still has not apologized.

[Lucinda]

14. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️

Yep

[PatrickforB]

26. Yeah, ripping ourselves apart with internicine battles is

a really, really bad idea. Let us all look toward the future, and assist the Biden administration in all ways possible in imposing its transformative agenda. I know the Clintons, Bernie, Warren, the Obamas and all the rest of our best share in this.

I'm really, really rooting for Biden and Harris.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

34. So there's another video .. other than one posted above? You

Couldn't hear but her demeanor seemed respectful. Didn't see any pointing.

Not doubting you - I stayed out of the Bernie/Clinton fight when it happened so might have missed it.

[LiberalLovinLug]

36. She had to raise her voice to be heard in the loud room.

That is about the extent of her "crime" as far as I can see.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

40. I didn't even hear that. I only heard the response, I haven't made

up my mind yet"

I absolutely hate all this - if you are critical of anyone or even worse give a critique of any action/policy/belief then you are a horrible traitor. I look at THAT as harassment by trolling blind faithers.

[SidDithers]

16. One degree in this case...

Sarandon directly accosted Dolores Huerta.

Sid

[muriel_volestrangler]

55. Aren't people allowed to talk to Huerta?

Explain to me what was wrong in the video.

[George II]

62. Under the right circumstances, yes. That was not the right place and time...

She could have met her outside to speak to her, but she didn't - she blocked Huerta from entering the hall yelled at her, at times pointing her finger in her face.

[muriel_volestrangler]

63. OK, that's obviously a different video from the one we've been pointed to

because in the one linked to above, Huerta and Sarandon are both already in the hall (it's a caucus, so the very purpose of it is for people to talk to each other), neither yelled at the other (both lean close to listen and talk to each other, since it's a noisy hall - the guy in charge later has to shout to get everyone to shut up so they can all hear him), and Huerta does just as much, if not more, finger-pointing as Sarandon (neither were rude about it).

If you can find the video you're thinking of, it would help make your case.

[Autumn]

67. The hall was loud so both were talking loud. Both used their hands when they talked.

Sarandon was respectful but loud as was Huerta IMO. I doubt you will be getting a link to another video. Some things only happen in the way people perceive things and all else will be ignored.

[George II]

70. Huerta was going about her business, Sarandon jumped in front of her and blocked her....

They were all there the whole weekend, plenty of opportunities to talk to her if it was that important. Poor 86-year old Dolores Huerta deserved more respect than what she got.

People can make excuses for Sarandon but that's not going to change what happened.

Incidentally, Sarandon's voting record would disqualify her from becoming a member of DU.

[muriel_volestrangler]

71. Again, you need to show the video with that

because the one linked to in this thread has Sarandon talking to someone else, while Huerta is standing next to them. The other person then moves away, and Sarandon turns to Huerta and they start talking.

[Autumn]

74. Don't see anything wrong with that George it was a political event. You really expect people not to

get political??? I don't have a fuck to give about anyone's voting record disqualifying them from becoming a member of DU A politicians or an activist not being a member of a message board is a plus in my book.

Couple of questions. You are a fan of the LP do you support them being members of DU?

Got a link to that video you have been asked about George?

First was a rhetorical question. No answer required. We know they are Republicans and we know how they vote, we also know that for all the accolades they would not be allowed to be members, to quote Martha Stewart" That's a good thing." I think all republican suck including them.=. We also know Sarandon was a Democrat pre 2016.

The second question was a request for link that shows what you are claiming up thread. Because I have not seen that view.

[George II]

75. I expect people to be respectful of each other. Why is that so funny and call for:

????

What does "LP" have to do with it. Are you referring to "Liquid Propane" or "THE Lincoln Project"?

If the latter, why bring it up in this thread, they haven't even been mentioned here? This is about Susan Sarandon, is she a member of "The Lincoln Project"?

[Autumn]

76. You know who I'm referring to George."Liquid Propane" has nothing to do with politics.

Just pointing out the difference in respect given to a bunch of worthless fucking republicans and how people react to a strong woman who didn't follow their mold in 2016. As to why bring it up in this thread when they haven't even been mentioned here? Because I wanted to, and because I can.

With all due respect George. Since you can't, or won't post a video to prove what you said up thread as people have suggested maybe you can post a link to the rule that says I can't make a comparison as to what I see? I'll wait for that too.

The LP members voted for Trump in 2016, in fact most of them are the reason why Trump was possible but the same people who hate her sure seem to like the LP.

[Celerity]

91. PRT

Prog Replacement Theory

Slide our party further to the right in hopes of snagging enough 'sane' Rethugs to make up for the inevitable haemorrhage of the leftmost 20% or so of our Party's voters. Reverse pincer movement, you marginalise the furthermost left of the mainstream parties and the furthermost RW. If you go rightward enough to grab 20% of the Rethugs, and because you are taking that 20% from the Rethugs, its a double net bonus because they shrink in equal numbers. The LW will either suck it up and still vote Dem or stay home or support a futile 3rd party. They will never go the neo nazi side.

100 voters in current times

50 Dem
50 Rethug

post realignment (a conservative case using my numbers above, as I have seen insanely optimistic percentages, like 30, 35% of Rethugs bolt if we go far enough to the right)

10 LW
50 New Dem
40 Hard RW

It is a Manchin/Collins paradise, IN THEORY.

You flush the hardcore (in terms of what is called hardcore for actual US major party voters) left down the shitter, and neuter the hard RW white nationalist Rethugs


I have seen it mentioned by talking heads and centre right to middle RW Never Trumper types, including neocons.

It is a pipe dream, it will never work and would be disastrous if attempted. I highly doubt a full 20% of Rethugs will bolt, plus the type of governance needed to keep them will rip our big tent apart, as the haemorrhaging will not be contained to only Sanderite types, those cross-over Rethugs we need to win will only be kept by doing things that will soon fuck up half of our old base.

[joetheman]

9. Why it pays to know history! nt

[iemanja]

24. There was constant trashing of Dolores Huerta

at one point.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

4. LOL

[House of Roberts]

5. So Dolores Huerta has a birthday and this becomes about Susan Sarandon somehow?

I thought DU had a rule against refighting old primary fights.

[SidDithers]

17. So send the alert...

see if a jury of DUers thinks mocking Sarandon is refighting old primary fights.



Sid

[pnwmom]

19. She's an actor, not a Democratic politician. n/t

[Beaverhausen]

6. Some people here really have a sick obsession with Susan Sarandon

Get over it already.

[BootinUp]

21. Lol. Nt

[NYC Liberal]

37. Some Democrats don't like people who helped Trump win in 2016.

Weird, I know.

[Beaverhausen]

38. Helped Trump win?

I've asked before and I'll ask again - how many of her fans do you really think voted for Stein because Sarandon didn't like Hillary?

How many?

100? 1000?10,000?

[George II]

50. No matter, she voted for Jill Stein, she was proud of it.

[NYC Liberal]

56. Given the margins in swing states, any number would be too many.

And it was her intent that matters. She called Hillary “dangerous”. She tried to get people to vote for Stein. How successful she was is irrelevant. Just like it was irrelevant that Trump’s attempts to overturn the election failed; it was the fact that he tried that matters.

[Autumn]

77. Like The Lincoln Project?

I agree. It is weird.

[NYC Liberal]

79. The Lincoln Project was founded in 2019 with the express purpose of defeating Trump.

It didn’t exist in 2016.

[Autumn]

80. No it did not. But those Republicans didn't do anything to support any Democrat in 2016.

Each and everyone of those people were Republicans and supported Republicans in and before 2016. In fact I blame them for Trump. Each one had a lot more influence than Sarandon ever did.

[NYC Liberal]

92. Which is why plenty of Democrats don't like or trust TLP.

Just as they don’t like or trust Sarandon.

[Autumn]

95. What I observe is many of those who do like and trust LP post their dislike of Progressives

every chance they get. AOC, Bernie, and the favorite whipping girl Sarandon. Who was very open that she voted for Stein but somehow managed to get Trump elected.

[NYC Liberal]

96. A vote for anyone other than Hillary Clinton was a vote for Trump.

Sarandon said that Trump would bring about a "revolution"...by damaging the country so much that it would force an upheaval. Well, the damage part happened. 500,000+ Americans dead. Three right-wing Supreme Court justices and countless other right-wing federal judges in office for life. Relationships with allies in tatters.

But at least it seems like she tacitly admitted this was a major mistake, because she voted for Biden this time. (But in four years she'll probably want to primary him and then vote for third-party again...)

[Autumn]

97. Hillary got the majority of the votes,damn near 3 million more than Trump. She could have got a

all of Steins votes and not won the EC, so no a vote for anyone other than Hillary was not a vote for Trump. Hillary got 65,844,610 votes, Trump received 62,979,636 votes Stein got a total of 1,200,000 votes.
There have always been a third party candidates for president in my life. Last year there were over 16 candidates on my ballot for President. How odd that nothing happened there. There were many factors in 2016 and that idiot Stein and Sarandon were nothing more than a distraction for after the election.

[Voltaire2]

43. she was great in Rocky Horror, Atlantic City, Bull Durham, Thelma and Louise

and like a shit-tonne of other movies.

There is sort of Jane Fonda syndrome here over Sarandon.

[Cha]

68. Tell Susan Sarandon to admit she was

Wrong when she spewed time and again that "Hillary is More Dangerous than trump".. Tell her to "get over it already"

Here the fuckhead is saying "..trump is an inspiration.. "..

Link to tweet

Susan Sarandon: Hillary Clinton "more dangerous" than Donald Trump

https://www.salon.com/2016/06/03/susan_sarandon_hillary_clinton_more_dangerous_than_donald_trump/

[Budi]

7. Celebrity influencer & multi-multi-millionare Susan Sarandon?

That is a beautiful pic.

Hi Susan

[stillcool]

8. From 2016. Why?

[mcar]

10. ...

[Cuthbert Allgood]

12. You should probably take this to Late Breaking News

that's a hot take that nobody has talked about ever.

[tonedevil]

13. There really isn't any evidence of that is there? /nt

[RestoreAmerica2020]

15. Two beautiful souls--ay que mas queres! They are a reflection of

..our diverse tierra--the true America.

As for Sarandon --quen? Who? Imo she's not a democratic leader or an advocate for progressive policies...so I've got nada to say about esa or for that matter other racist, bigoted gente [people] except to say--move out of the way..change isn't coming--it's here!

PS. Just a lovely photo of two exceptional women; democratic leaders. I'm going to print and place on my home altarrrd next to santos y La Virgin so they are protected [as well as other women of color [ and or nonchristian women ] who dare to shake up the status quo-- adelante! [ onwards; press on!]

Paz. Going to Walgrrens to print. Gracias!

[Sympthsical]

18. Way to crap on what should be a lovely picture

I do see racism here. Not Sarandon's though.

[BradAllison]

20. It really is a stretch

I highly doubt Susan Sarandon gives a flying fuck while lounging by her pool as much as say Ted Cruz or Tom Cotton or some rando WyomaIdahKota Senator or Congressperson.

[jalan48]

23. Obsession

ob·ses·sion
/əbˈseSHən/
noun
the state of being obsessed with someone or something.
"she cared for him with a devotion bordering on obsession"
an idea or thought that continually preoccupies or intrudes on a person's mind.
plural noun: obsessions
"he was in the grip of an obsession he was powerless to resist"

Definitions from Oxford Languages

[George II]

27. We don't need the definition of an insult that has been thrown at members of DU. Dolores Huerta....

....is a NATIVE of New Mexico, Saturday was her NINETY-FIRST birthday. She was a constituent of Deb Haaland until Haaland became the first Native American Cabinet Member. Secretary Haaland knows her well and she was wishing Huerta a happy birthday.

That is NOT "obsession"!

[tonedevil]

31. Making this picture about Susan Sarandon...

that's where the obsession lies.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. Notice nowhere in your post did you say "Susan" or "Sarandon."

So, your post wouldn't fall into the discussion of the obsession of the OP.

[George II]

41. Why would I mention "Susan" or "Sarandon"? The post to which I responded wasn't about her.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

47. The post you responded to was about the obsession of the OP

Which is the obsession of talking about Sarandon.

You really aren't this obtuse, so stop playing.

[George II]

59. "Notice nowhere in the post I responded to did it say "Susan" or "Sarandon." "

[Voltaire2]

60. I've heard bricks are thick.

[George II]

64. Let's see, this thread has been dormant for 12 hours and all of a sudden there are two new posts....

....both in response to one of mine about 99% down the list (#59 of now 61, including yours and the other one)

How interesting!

[Cuthbert Allgood]

65. I'm sorry that I don't check DU on your schedule, George.

I didn't know I had broken the rules. I heartily apologize. From now on, I will furiously refresh DU to see if there is a response for you and forgo all other life activities. Good thing I can do this on my phone so that I can still go to the bathroom.

[Voltaire2]

83. why is that interesting to you?

[iemanja]

25. Huerta is a true American hero

and should be revered as such.

[Cobalt Violet]

28. Yawn.

Boring!

[SidDithers]

44. ...

Sid

[LudwigPastorius]

30. I'm not a fan of Sarandon, but is there any evidence (like, her actual words) that indicate...

she is a racist?

[JI7]

45. She supported Trump

[LudwigPastorius]

49. I think her refusal to endorse Hillary against Trump was stupid and irresponsible.

Anyone that had any brains, or awareness of history at all, could see how the Nader-or-nobody attitude got Bush elected in 2000.

But, if you are being intellectually honest with yourself, you'd admit that the leap from 'didn't support Hillary' to 'she's a racist' is ridiculous.

(Christ, I can't believe I'm defending Susan Sarandon.)

[JI7]

51. It's not ridiculous at all when she said she preferred Trump

[LudwigPastorius]

52. She officially endorsed Jill Stein...

...and, tweeted that it was funny to think that she would ever vote for Trump.


The only quote that could even remotely be construed as support for him was from an interview in which she said, "Some people feel that Donald Trump will bring the revolution immediately, if he gets in".

But, whatever. I'm not that invested in this argument. Hate on her all you like.

I would suggest, however, that throwing the word racist around for some Hollywood air head who is butt hurt that her primary pick didn't win waters down a word that accurately describes the Nazis who tried to overthrow our government a few months ago.

Peace

[JI7]

54. Jill Stein is a grifting troll who wasn't going to win. Sarandon said she preferred Trump

over Clinton .

[iemanja]

58. She said Hillary was worse than Trump

which means she actively worked to put him in office.

[Raine]

53. What the ???? 👎 nt

[ismnotwasm]

57. lol

Yah, Sarandon’s an ass.

[Cha]

69. When Bradley Whitford Righteously called out Susan Sarandon

Link to tweet

[NurseJackie]

73. Sarandon spoke about a Trump Revolution... was the envisioning the insurrection?

Nevertheless, Trump's victory is what Susan Sarandon wanted. Just LOOK at how giddy and animated she is...
... she can barely contain her excitement at the horrors that await us.

[XanaDUer2]

81. OMG. I didn't know she said that nt

[NurseJackie]

82. Sarandon AND the candidates she supports DESPISE the Democratic party.

She's a BIG TIME Jill Stein supporter and a BIG TIME Ralph Nader supporter. Both Jill and Ralph siphoned-off enough votes from Hillary and Al Gore that we ended up with Trump and George W. Bush.

Sarandon is a national tragedy.

[XanaDUer2]

85. And she's probably so rich

she'll never be directly affected by so much.

[George II]

93. Well, in October she sold her duplex apartment in Manhattan for a mere $7.9M

[LetMyPeopleVote]

89. She wanted trump elected because she hated Hillary

Never forget, team. #HowWeGotHere

Link to tweet

?s=20

[betsuni]

94. To me it's amazing that someone who meets interesting people all the time, travels the world,

has been an activists for decades, would be gullible enough to believe that a hard-working wonky mild-mannered Methodist with a long career helping Americans, especially women and children, and always sends thank you notes and remembers everyone's birthdays is actually a diabolically dangerous evil monster lusting to kill everybody with wars and so corrupt she only thinks about money bribes from Wall Street and corporations. Who couldn't wait to start killing everybody (and something about fracking thrown in). Did Susan publicly criticize Trump about fracking, drone warfare, foreign policy? If so, I didn't see it.

If she admitted she fell for obvious propaganda and was wrong, fine. But that's not going to happen. Too bad. Some people decide they're right and anybody who wants the same goals but a different approach because of political realities of the United States is not only wrong, but immoral and evil.

[Cha]

86. Yeah Big Empty 3rd party Stupid

Mouth didn't know WTF she was talking about.. Never did.. Never will.

[NurseJackie]

87. I'm sure it won't be long before someone compares her to Jane Fonda! 🤪🤣😂🤪😜

Pathetic. As if Fonda ever had a hand in helping the Republicans by actively encouraging the siphoning-off of votes from the Democrat.

Any-hoo!

[LetMyPeopleVote]

88. I remember Sarandon doing her best to get Bush elected in 2000 and 2004

Link to tweet

[Cha]

90. Yeah, poor poor Fucking Privileged SS..

Always in the Dumpster Fire of History.

[Paladin]

72. To hell with Sarandon. Now and forever more. (nt)