Oops - that young man the cops killed last night

[malaise]

His mother is white. Someone will pay for this one.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

1. I doubt that very, very much.

[joetheman]

32. I doubt it too. The MAGAs will hate her even more.

[Deuxcents]

2. Maybe the guns should

Be taken away from the cops. They can’t make a traffic stop without shooting n killing the mostly black people? How many white people get killed ? This just has to stop.

[malaise]

3. Its sickening

It is institutional racism on steroids

[ColinC]

6. Agreed.

Then we will see how quickly gun control can be enacted.

[sop]

10. One might almost believe cops find blacks so threatening they must kill them even when unarmed.

[EX500rider]

14. "How many white people get killed?" More then black people as a total

[Celerity]

18. Blacks are far more likely to be shot and killed by police than whites via

percentage of our population verus our death rate. 250% roughly, more likely.

The total shooting deaths per racial cohort is an extremely misleading statistic.

[Elessar Zappa]

29. Sorry, I meant to respond to post above!

I'm saying black people are much more likely to be killed.

[Celerity]

31. I will delete my reply as well! Hugz.

[Elessar Zappa]

33. ...

[Nictuku]

4. Does anyone know what the warrant was for?

This should make no difference whatsoever, because in our country, you are innocent until proven guilty, and a warrant is not proof of anything. It would just be all the worse if he ended up getting killed because of unpaid traffic tickets or some other minor infraction.

Police are NOT the judge, jury, and executioners in our society. They need retraining (or removal).

[malaise]

5. Right now it's war on mon-whites

Thank Trump

[LizBeth]

8. Warrant or not, the problem is shooting and killing is a "go to" with black men. It is not a "go to"

for the rest of us, even white men mass shooting or say, overrunning Capitol building.

[2naSalit]

19. That was my first thought when they said he had "warrants"...

I also wonder if he really did have warrants at all.

[malaise]

20. Saying the shooting was an accident

No words

[Ms. Toad]

21. Carrying a pistol without a permit & misdemeanor fleeing n/t

[Sympthsical]

7. Maybe ask Daniel Shaver's parents about that one

Maybe people should step off their background racism about white people for a change. They are also gunned down by police without consequence. You don't hear about it much. But if you really want to see what is some epic fuckian injustice, read this story.

Oh, and there's video.

The cop was rehired so he could get a medical pension and retire with PTSD for gunning down a sobbing young man.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

[malaise]

12. I'm dealing with racist cops

I know many whites (in laws, friends and colleagues) who aren't racists,
Bottom line is that black men are killed by cops way more per capita than poor white men.

[Sympthsical]

15. That wasn't your post

Your hot take was that there'd be consequences because white people were involved.

That is often not the case.

No one is arguing that police are more racist towards people of color, and there is a huge problem with black people being killed by them. That's why we're all here, isn't it?

But your hot take ignores the fact that buried in that epidemic is that too many police have authoritarian impulses and get a little - sometimes - murderous thrill from exercising it (see: Chauvin). This involves white people, too.

The OP is needlessly divisive. Instead of pointing out commonalities whites and others have with police brutality and violence, you tried to draw a line that doesn't exist nearly as much as you think.

I see no useful point to it. JMO.

[malaise]

16. It's not that simple

Biracial middle class families face less police rage

[malaise]

17. Accidental discharge

my black ass!

Here we go again.

[Celerity]

23. TBF, the type of coupling that produced moi (white man, black female) is less likely

to get the bollocksing from old bill than a black man with a white woman. I feel confident making that claim for a lot of Western nations.

[malaise]

25. We both can

It's lived experience

[Celerity]

30. Some of the replies to these racially-related OP's are just so depressing, with

white fragility, whataboutism, false equivalency, and attempted diminution of systemic racially-based murder by cops (and often racism overall), of us black folk on display to varying degrees and intensities.

I have seen these oh so problematic types of postings on a plethora of DU OP's that involve the intersectionality of race and power constructs. DU, IMHO, has a real white privilege/white fragility issue from certian sectors who tend to bigfoot all over many of these types of OP's. Perhaps it is exacerbated by the overall age cohorts of the vast majority of active posters tending to skew far older than the US population in general. Not sure, but it is disturbing nonetheless.

[uponit7771]

27. No, the disproportionate amount are black. Please stop the uneeded equivalencies, its regressive

[Mister Ed]

34. Some of my right-wing family members have held this up as "proof"...

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...that Blacks are not disproportionately mistreated by police in the USA. They have sent me the horrifying video of the young White man on his hands and his knees in a hotel hallway being shot to death by an officer, and have said, "See? It happens to White people too! You just don't hear about it when it happens to us!"

Their blindness and illogic is stunning. Do they really believe that finding a few cases in which police needlessly killed a White man proves that all races are treated evenhandedly by police across this country?

[Aristus]

9. Barack Obama's mother was white.

It didn't stop the shitweasels from hating on him as a 'Kenyan, Mooslim, Communist, Fascist, America-hating,' blah-blah-blah...

[malaise]

13. Valid point

In fact his mother was called an NL

[2naSalit]

24. That's what I grew up with...

My mom was obviously white, nobody was sure about my dad but since he wasn't pearly white, she was call the NL. Same with my older sister when she had to take me to the local market for something, kids would throw stuff at us, call me the N word and her a NL... neither I or my father are black, not even a little bit but I have a slight olive complexion with freckles. In the 1950s and early 60s, I was called the N word more often than not.

[malaise]

26. Tell me about it

The things I have heard from siblings and their children and grandchildren - I've put up with enough crap in these past five decades.

The police chief walked out on them - just returned. Wow!
This is disgraceful.

[sop]

35. Outstanding warrants contribute to these incidents.

The DOJ has established that policing in predominantly black and brown areas is much more aggressive and punitive. Police stop and issue violations much more frequently, often resulting in the issuing of bench warrants for unpaid fines and missed court dates. Police then use these warrants to further harass people. It's a vicious cycle.