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F'n cops need to THINK before they SHOOT! (Original Post) MoonRiver Apr 2021 OP
Oh, well there's your problem: Think. Aristus Apr 2021 #1
i think they do think before shooting. They want to kill black men. samsingh Apr 2021 #2
"Don't tell me I can't shoot black people, that's why I took this job!" (imagined quote) Towlie Apr 2021 #15
Post removed Post removed Apr 2021 #3
Or suspects should not attempt flight Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #4
Too many have been killed doing everything right. TDale313 Apr 2021 #5
So flight played no part ? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #9
This should never have ended in his murder TDale313 Apr 2021 #10
Victim blaming? Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #14
Floyd was fleeing? and depending on the suspect the answer is no for death. uponit7771 Apr 2021 #13
There have been multiple cases of people complying Bettie Apr 2021 #24
And yet a man can go into a convenience store and kill ten people but get walked out padah513 Apr 2021 #6
Exactly. TDale313 Apr 2021 #7
... or be black, you forgot that part uponit7771 Apr 2021 #12
"suspects should not attempt flight"? You just don't get it. Towlie Apr 2021 #18
There are far too many black and brown people killed by police Ms. Toad Apr 2021 #25
They do think. They see a black American and decide they must kill him/her no matter what. LonePirate Apr 2021 #8
um Skittles Apr 2021 #17
Are you saying this murder is acceptable because thousands of others were not murdered? LonePirate Apr 2021 #20
you know that is not what I am saying Skittles Apr 2021 #21
Your credibility takes a big hit when you imply that a poster ... 11 Bravo Apr 2021 #22
I'm not the one defending another senseless murder by America's militarized and racist police force LonePirate Apr 2021 #23
K&R, they usually do if the persons white uponit7771 Apr 2021 #11
or maybe America could be less of a gun humping nation Skittles Apr 2021 #16
exactly. bdamomma Apr 2021 #26
A man goes into 3 spas in Georgia, kills 9 people all but two Asian, and still they take him alive padah513 Apr 2021 #19
+100 MoonRiver Apr 2021 #27

Response to MoonRiver (Original post)

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
5. Too many have been killed doing everything right.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:08 PM
Apr 2021

There is no correct way for people of color to interact with police that shields them from this. If you don’t this yet, you’re part of the problem.

Watchfoxheadexplodes

(3,542 posts)
9. So flight played no part ?
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:16 PM
Apr 2021

I have said the officer was wreckless but did she think first black guy that gives me shit today I'm going to murder him?

TDale313

(7,822 posts)
10. This should never have ended in his murder
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:26 PM
Apr 2021

The officer, at absolute best, fucked up. But we clearly have a huge systemic problem. This is way more than the specifics of one case. It’s not one bad apple. It’s widespread and keeps happening, and victim blaming is not helpful. Again, too many cases where PoC were killed by cops while doing absolutely everything “right”, but whatever these circumstances, most of these cases do not require lethal force. Cop’s job is not to be judge, jury, and executioner.

Bettie

(19,447 posts)
24. There have been multiple cases of people complying
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:51 PM
Apr 2021

who have been murdered. Remember Philando Castille? Also in Minnesota.

He was literally complying with the cop's order to pull out his wallet, telling him what he was doing as he did it...and the cop shot him to death.

There are plenty of others. Why did the kid flee? Because he was afraid. Why did the Lt. not get out of the car, because he was afraid.

Why were they afraid? Because cops kill black people regularly and most of the time it is excused. Like this time: 'OOPSIE! I shot him with the wrong thing!'

This young man called his mom when he was being stopped, because he thought there was a good chance he'd end up dead.

You know what white privilege is? It is seeing a cop behind you and not thinking that you are very likely about to be killed.

Towlie

(5,561 posts)
18. "suspects should not attempt flight"? You just don't get it.
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:42 PM
Apr 2021

 


There's no need for flight
as long as you're white

Ms. Toad

(38,410 posts)
25. There are far too many black and brown people killed by police
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 03:00 PM
Apr 2021

relative to their white counterparts for (1) black and brown flight to be the cause and (2) for it to be unreasonable for black and brown people to fear for their lives in such encounters.

When you are afraid for your life, and your options are to attempt to flee to safety and be shot fleeting - or - to stay put and potentially be subjected to deadly force - there are no good options.

11 Bravo

(24,292 posts)
22. Your credibility takes a big hit when you imply that a poster ...
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:08 PM
Apr 2021

is saying something that they quite obviously are NOT saying.
(And posing it as a question, FoxNews style, doesn't mitigate the offense.)

LonePirate

(14,349 posts)
23. I'm not the one defending another senseless murder by America's militarized and racist police force
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 02:35 PM
Apr 2021

By saying we need to keep in mind the thousands of non-deadly encounters every day, that is in effect minimizing or dismissing this deadly incident and many others. It’s like we should not care about this murder because such a high percentage of incidents do not result in the loss of life. That’s absurd.

We have a significant problem in this country when massive numbers of people in this country fear for their lives whenever a police officer approaches them because we have so many racist, angry and incompetent police officers in this country. I would not be surprised if some of them take the job simply for the opportunity to kill minorities. The Klan in this country simply traded in their white robes and hoods for blue uniforms and badges.

padah513

(2,708 posts)
19. A man goes into 3 spas in Georgia, kills 9 people all but two Asian, and still they take him alive
Mon Apr 12, 2021, 01:43 PM
Apr 2021

A young black man gets stopped by police for an air freshener violation, AN AIR FRESHENER VIOLATION, has no gun, and gets shot and killed. In what Bizzaro world should any man, black, white, blue, green, polka dot, get stopped for an air freshener violation by police and not walk the freak away from it?

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